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The cold facade of Yenn has lead to tons of misunderstanding of her character. The passion she holds for Geralt and Ciri often misinterpreted as cold or dominance towards them. Underneath Yenn lacks security to love or be loved. Geralt (who also fears the witcher's mutation turned himself emotionless) knows who she really is and love her for that. The last wish mission in TW3 perfectly demonstrates their relationship. 

 

The best analysis of Yenn's character:

http://forums.cdproj...-(all-spoilers)

 

Nah, learning the complexities of a character is too much work. Taking everything at face value and/or irrational hatred are far easier ways to look at things.


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Question regarding Yenn's official appearance. Did she have magical surgery which causes her current apperance to be permanent or is it some spell she has to keep active 24/7?



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Question regarding Yenn's official appearance. Did she have magical surgery which causes her current apperance to be permanent or is it some spell she has to keep active 24/7?

 

Magic Surgery.

 

Originally she was a

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But with plenty of Magic she changed that. And it's permanent.

 

In the books, when Geralt first meets her, he can already notice some minuscule remnants of what she once was. I can't remember the exact paragraph by heart, but he does notice a few things.


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Question regarding Yenn's official appearance. Did she have magical surgery which causes her current apperance to be permanent or is it some spell she has to keep active 24/7?

 

Its like a magical form of plastic surgery. The changes are permanent rather than a spell that has to be maintained or can be dispelled. They can also use magic to correct severe injuries. For example Yenn was blinded during the Battle of Sodden Hill (a battle between the Northern Kingdoms and Nilfgaard during the first Northern War), and Triss was so severely burned that she was unrecognizable. Magic was used to restore Yenn's sight and eliminate most of Triss' burn scars.


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Word of advice, if you battle a couple of Wraiths, and need to meditate to heal up, don't do it in the same place as you killed the Wraiths lol.

 

Hunted down the Griffin armor, killed a couple of them and thought to myself "Best meditate to regenerate!" 

 

Meditation was interrupted, and 4 Wraiths spawned infront of me. I killed them, but still, if you're playing on a higher difficulty, then watch out.



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Word of advice, if you battle a couple of Wraiths, and need to meditate to heal up, don't do it in the same place as you killed the Wraiths lol.

 

Hunted down the Griffin armor, killed a couple of them and thought to myself "Best meditate to regenerate!" 

 

Meditation was interrupted, and 4 Wraiths spawned infront of me. I killed them, but still, if you're playing on a higher difficulty, then watch out.

 

Funny enough, I hunted down the Cat armor yesterday. Still no Griffin or Ursine.



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In the books, when Geralt first meets her, he can already notice some minuscule remnants of what she once was. I can't remember the exact paragraph by heart, but he does notice a few things.

 

Her eyes.

 

They hold a certain quality and distrust that made him aware that she had grown up looking quite different. It's a bit sad, really, but it goes to show that magic can't heal everything.

 

Anyway, progressed up to a certain point in Skellige. 

 

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Funny enough, I hunted down the Cat armor yesterday. Still no Griffin or Ursine.

 

The diagrams for the base Griffin set and IIRC all of the first tier of upgrades are spread across Velen. Though don't quote me on the upgrades, I might've found some during my short stay in Novigrad so far, I can't remember. But I did run around in the base Griffin set for like 90% of the main and side quests in Velen before the only ones left in my journal were ones way beyond my level and I moved on to Novigrad where I now have the upgraded pieces of Griffin gear waiting to be crafted.



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The diagrams for the base Griffin set and IIRC all of the first tier of upgrades are spread across Velen. Though don't quote me on the upgrades, I might've found some during my short stay in Novigrad so far, I can't remember. But I did run around in the base Griffin set for like 90% of the main and side quests in Velen before the only ones left in my journal were ones way beyond my level and I moved on to Novigrad where I now have the upgraded pieces of Griffin gear waiting to be crafted.

 

I used whatever armor I had on me until the DLC gave me the new armor set, I used that for a while, picked up some better stuff along the way, then when I reached level 16 decided to go hunting for the Cat armor pieces since I had that treasure hunt quest line unlocked for a while.



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I know for a fact that every mastercrafted upgrade can be found on the Skellige Iles.

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Question regarding Yenn's official appearance. Did she have magical surgery which causes her current apperance to be permanent or is it some spell she has to keep active 24/7?

She got her hunchback cured by Tissaia de Vries, who is almost like a mother to Yenn. Other than that, when Tissaia first see Yenn she just have a failed suicide attend and her whole body is covered with scars from physical abuses from her family.



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She got her hunchback cured by Tissaia de Vries, who is almost like a mother to Yenn. Other than that, when Tissaia first see Yenn she just have a failed suicide attend and her whole body is covered with scars from physical abuses from her family.


Damm, thats quite sad. I can see how that could have affected her personality towards people.

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There is a short summary of Yenn's story so far. Credits to StaGiors.

 

"Yennefer of Vengerberg is a Sorceress and the main love interest of Geralt in the books. She was born in year 1173 which makes her about 100 years old by the start of TW3. Her family was a farmer family, that gave her up to be trained as Sorceress, since she was a "hunchback". Her father blamed her half-elf mother for Yennefer's disability. Yennefer is a quadroon, meaning 1/4 elf. During her magical education period, she was described as very talented in magic. A trait that still follows her. After finishing her education, she quickly rose in the ranks of the Mage Community, and was actually the youngest member of the Council of Sorcerers, before the Thanedd Coup, that dismantled the organization.

Yennefer met with Geralt of Rivia, in a rather unpleasant environment, one that involved a Djinn wreaking havoc in a town. Ironically, the witcher and the bard Dandelion, had fished a bottle out of a river, that held the Djinn captive. Dandelion accidentally freed the Djinn, and tried to ask for his 3 wishes. However neither himself or Geralt had realized at the time, that the Djinn was supposed to grant Geralt 3 wishes, since it was the Witcher that held the bottle's seal. Yennefer on the other hand was trying to capture said Djinn, once she learned of it's existence and almost succeeded in doing so. She knew that, in order to capture a Djinn, it needs to not be tied to anyone else. And since everyone though Dandelion was tied to the Djinn, she forced the bard to ask for all his 3 wishes, so that she can capture it. Geralt however realized that it was himself the Djinn was tied to, though a little late at that, which is precisely why the Djinn almost burned the town to cinders. Once he realised it, he rushed to save Yennefer's life, by asking from the Djinn for his Final third Wish, thus releasing it. To both his and Yennefer's surprise, he asked for his Destiny, to be put in the Sorceress' hands. It would appear that the witcher had fallen in love with Yennefer at first sight, however his Last Wish was surprising to both nonetheless. (Thanks go to @wichat for this.)

After these events, the two were involved in a romantic relationship, but a very unstable one. Yennefer at that point, was driven by a desire to find a cure to her infertility. Capturing the Djinn was one of these attempts. Geralt on the other hand, being a witcher, could not stay for long in one place. He had to go back to the Path. So the couple was mostly split. Yennefer was also involved in a romantic relationship with a Sorcerer named Istredd. Geralt and Istredd had a pretty major argument on who should actually be with Yennefer. Nobody quite "won" that argument.

Either way, after some time, Geralt and Yennefer were reunited, and the witcher actually spent a year in her house in Vengerberg. The Sorceress' demanding attitude and his need to be on the road prevailed in the end, and he left without a warning. An action Yennefer had a very hard time accepting. After two years of being apart, Geralt asked for help from Yennefer, since the witcher has problems with Ciri's magical abilities. Problems that the witchers, and Triss Merigold, could not overcome. Geralt had asked Triss for help first, because he would not dare ask Yennefer, due to his previous actions. On a side note, Triss was Yennefer's best friend, and also she had already tried to seduce Geralt with Magic. Which kind of deteriorated the relationship between the two Sorceresses.

Even though Geralt, had referred to Yennefer in his letter, as "Dear Friend", even though he had asked Triss for help before her, Yennefer managed to swallow her pride, and helped Geralt. She abandoned her life in Vengerberg along with all her goals and ambitions and went in Ellander, where she would train Ciri to control her abilities. Yennefer is described as stubborn, ambitious and proud, yet she accepted to help Geralt in his time of need. Ciri is Geralt's Destiny child, and at the witcher's wish, his Destiny is in Yennefer's hands.

In the months she was training Ciri, she managed to create a bond with the girl, something like a mother - daughter relationship. She was a very strict teacher, but also a caring and loving one, in her own way. All this time Geralt was hunting down the people that wanted to catch Ciri.

Yennefer and Geralt met again in Gors Velen, right before the events of the Thanedd Coup. Their meeting started with Geralt explaining himself to her, and Yennefer yelling at Geralt. Or as Dandellion described it, Geralt apologizing, and Yennefer forgiving him. Their relationship was "revitalized", only to die once again, a few days later due to the following events. Geralt was wounded by the Sorcerer Vilgefortz and had a near death experience, Yennefer disappeared, and everyone thought she was a traitor, that helped Vilgefortz, capture Ciri. Even Geralt thought this way. What truly happened, is that Yennefer, acting under Archmistress Tissaia de Vries' instructions, tried to stop the inevitable fight between magicians, with the help of Ciri. Needless to say she failed. She was secretly compressed by Francesca Findabair, and taken away to Dol Blathanna.

After the Thanedd events, the Lodge of Sorceresses was created, and Yennefer was decompressed, since Francesca wanted her to be a part of the Lodge. She was to help the Sorceresses to find Ciri, as she had a strong emotional connection to the girl. Yennefer, having other plans, tried and succeeded to escape. In the following months, she tried locating Vilgefortz, whom she wrongly assumed had captured Ciri. She managed to do so, only to get captured by the Sorcerer. She was imprisoned and tortured, in order to reveal Ciri's location, again by using magic and her emotional connection. She did not cave in. She was much later rescued by Geralt.

Geralt had figured out Yennefer's role in the Thanedd events, and as was to be expected he got back into a relationship with the Sorceress. At that point, Yennefer and Triss convinced Geralt to allow them to take Ciri to the Lodge, so that she can be trained properly. Geralt agreed. Thus the women left to bring Ciri to the Lodge, and Geralt ended up in Rivia. The Lodge, after a meeting, allowed Ciri to see Geralt one last time, before her training starts, so Ciri, Triss and Yennefer traveled to Rivia to see the witcher and inform him of the news. Only to find him stabbed in the stomach by a pitchfork. Yennefer "died" trying to save him. This event in the books is quite vaguely described and it involves time travel and unicorn magic. Either way Yennefer and Geralt ended up in the Isle of Avallac'h as the Witcher 2 storyline suggests. Ciri was nowhere to be found. It is safe to assume that neither Geralt or Yennefer died in Rivia. (Thanks go to @Synvael for this one.)"

 

 

Yup Geralt used to be an A-hole alot, and Yenn has sacrificed a lot for him and Ciri. As those triss fans' hatred towards such an amazing independent woman and caring mother, I really could no understand.



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Just want to say wow. Just WOW. I can't believe how much fun I'm having with TW3! THIS is how DA:I should have made me feel.

 

What's scaring me now though is that Bioware won;t have the backbone to return to it's roots and give us the tactical compliment to TW's action-RPG focus, because of how well TW3 is doing. They'll likely try and copy it instead.

 

All they have to do to give fans everything they want and sell loads is make a PROPER sequel to DA:O. One with tactical combat, orgin stories, a voiceless protagonist and a dialogue tree again. Basically all the things that make for a great RPG and which gives Bioware it's identity and uniquieness, so that it can easily compete with TW series.

 

Instead, we're gonna get Witcher-Effect in Weekend at Skyrim aren't we?



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I don't dislike her, but i haven't read the books and they forced way to much dialogue between Geralt and Yen based on them. Let me just say that i played a game series where i developed Geralt from his amnesia into a new person, who still holds all his values ofc. He wouldn't lose that progression just because he got his memory back. He would be both at the same time. That is one my major gripes with the game btw. Mostly what i have done in the 2 first games doesn't matter, but it mattered to me. And here i will give one plus to Bioware. They may not be good at importing our choices, but they do and they add flavor to it. FLAVOR!

 

I still enjoy the game and its story, it gave me plenty of feels. But the plot feels sloppy from time to time and the story makes no sense at certain points. Giving how the first game ended and how little i can influence that to Ciri, i felt abit dissapointed. 



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Woopsy, I didn't realize those were the Baron's Men at the Crossroads Inn area lol.

 

I killed them, not only did they insult me, but a lot of them were hanging outside the house opposite the Inn, and you could hear a man and woman in there...yeah no thanks, butchered them all. So I had to find a shrine, to find a cave, swim into it then climb up a Well to reach the Baron instead of just walking into Crow's Perch and being led to him lol. That's insane! 

 

Going to try my Siege deck against him as soon as he stops reminiscing about Ciri. Then going to challenge all the vendors in Perch, craft my Griffon gear and what not.



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According to a book on Redania Radovid is 19... ?!

 

Maybe he should stop doing meth.



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It's funny that probably the most talked-about Triss moment isn't anywhere in the game yet I see the screenshot in most reviews:

 

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it became the standard final shot for every sex scene that doesnt involve Triss or Yen.

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Nah, learning the complexities of a character is too much work. Taking everything at face value and/or irrational hatred are far easier ways to look at things.

Or some people don't see the same way you see.
I have the books and still dislike her, her cokd attitude and irony made me dislike her even more.
Don't know why people are surprised that others dislike Yennifer, its not like people are different and have different views and values. Its easier to say they are wrong and they have irrational hated.
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Same boat. I'm a completionist.

 

I think I need an intervention. 

 

Almost every time I try to be a completionist I get burned pretty badly, TW3 so far is no different for me lol. Already have the laptop out playing netflix while I run around doing side quests.



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Did the Last Wish quest.
 
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#5123
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In real life I would go for Triss any day. But in games I can appreciate characters like Yen.

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Did the Last Wish quest. 

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Ha! The quest "A Tower Full of Mice" is a reference to an old Polish tale. Very similar to the quest description too!
It is about prince Popiel II who was more interested in drinking and sleeping with women rather than ruling his kingdom. His uncles wanted to dispose of him for his lacking in rulership, only his wife acted first and had the uncles murdered in turn. Instead of burying the bodies they had them tossed in a nearby lake. Popiel's subjects were angered by this act and attacked his castle, forcing him and his wife to flee.
They took shelter in a tower near the lake where the bodies had been disposed of. These bodies had attracted an army of mice who made their way into the tower and ate the prince and the princess.
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