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#5676
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Reached Skellige. About time, I say! Think I've done the majority of the side quests in both Velen and Novigrad. Always when I was thinking I was done, another quests appeared in front of me, which I naturally wasn't able to refuse, since I'm quite a completionist. Cool to see Yenn again, looking forward to doing quests with her, and now I'll have to hunt down the Ursin armor as well.  



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I heard that there's a Philippa Eilhart gwent card. Is it on a certain npc or is it a missable quest reward?



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I heard that there's a Philippa Eilhart gwent card. Is it on a certain npc or is it a missable quest reward?


Randonly given after you beat a random NPC

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I heard that there's a Philippa Eilhart gwent card. Is it on a certain npc or is it a missable quest reward?

If I remember correctly, I got it from one of the innkeepers in Skellige.



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Randonly given after you beat a random NPC

 

 

If I remember correctly, I got it from one of the innkeepers in Skellige.

Thanks for heads up. 



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If I remember correctly, I got it from one of the innkeepers in Skellige.


I got it from a shopkeeper in Skellige. Like the Dragon, its random when you will receive the card.

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Here a guide for the cards locations: http://www.primagame...her-3-wild-hunt
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Some people just want to watch the world asplode
 
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That embarrassment and shame you feel when your level 20+ Geralt goes down to a pack of nekkers/drowners/wolves.


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The more I look at the official witcher story forums the more it becomes obvious.

The Witcher 3 has the worst story of every single game they've made. Oh sure it's hard to realize at first what with all the excellent music, superb facial animations and lip syncing and great cinematics but once it sinks it's hard to not feel angry.

The principal cause of failure lies in the fact that two of their writers for TW2, including the LEAD writer, either quit the company or moved on to Cyberpunk. 



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Nah, The Witcher 1 is worse that game is just really lousy fanfiction.


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Nah, The Witcher 1 is worse that game is just really lousy fanfiction.

Atleast it had an interesting villain and a fantastic ending.



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I'm more concerned over the fact that TW3 doesn't seem to have any form of a strong sub-plot going for it, which was what made the game's overall story so great.

TW1 had the Order vs Scoiatel. TW2 an excellent political one that was pieced together masterfully. TW3? No clue. There are side stories sure, but I have seen little to no solid connection that builds up to anything substantial, as far as I've seen. The war is--while having its moments and shows a strong portrayal of its ramifications--does seem to only exist on a superficial level. Eh, we'll see as the game goes along.
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Atleast it had an interesting villain and a fantastic ending.

 

I thought that whole Alvin thing was awful, Again he was just really bad substitute for Ciri, but ending wasn't bad I give you that.

I'm more concerned over the fact that TW3 doesn't seem to have any form of a strong sub-plot going for it, which was what made the game's overall story so great.

TW1 had the Order vs Scoiatel. TW2 an excellent political one that was pieced together masterfully. TW3? No clue. There are side stories sure, but I have seen little to no solid connection that builds up to anything substantial, as far as I've seen. The war is--while having its moments and shows a strong portrayal of its ramifications--does seem to only exist on a superficial level. Eh, we'll see as the game goes along.

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Do you mean the subplots or the main plot? I'm confused. You say TW2's one is a political one. That simply sounds like the main plot.

 

TW3 is a personal story about Geralt's coming of age, what kind of rolemodel he wants to be for his adopted daughter and settling the score with the Wild Hunt. and stuff like that. That was the heart of Witcher 3 and it was pretty darn excellent all the way through, even in the endings despite my dislike towards their short-livedness

 

As for subplots there were the whole thing with Nilfgaard, Radovid and Skellige. I think it has more bloated subplots overall because it's an open-world game. I saw that coming and it was the big hurdle I feared CDPR couldn't handle, but I think it's pretty masterful now that everything has been said and done.



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Do you mean the subplots or the main plot? I'm confused. You say TW2's one is a political one. That simply sounds like the main plot.
 
TW3 is a personal story about Geralt's coming of age, what kind of rolemodel he wants to be for his adopted daughter and settling the score with the Wild Hunt. and stuff like that. That was the heart of Witcher 3 and it was pretty darn excellent all the way through, even in the endings despite my dislike towards their short-livedness
 
As for subplots there were the whole thing with Nilfgaard, Radovid and Skellige. I think it has more bloated subplots overall because it's an open-world game. I saw that coming and it was the big hurdle I feared CDPR couldn't handle, but I think it's pretty masterful now that everything has been said and done.


Main plot was chasing down the assassins. Just like TW1 was chasing doen Berengar and Salamandra. The games strengths has been the ability to integrate sub-plots to complement the primary one in meaningful ways.

I haven't completed the game so I can't judge it fully yet, but all I've seen is mediocrity with the sub plots thus far.

As for the story being more personal, I've already stated it here before; everyone who was following news on TW3 knew that it would be more personal. However, that is a huge misunderstanding of the real issue. The political plot in TW3 is disconnected from TW2, wherein struggles, choices, characters are ignored or butchered. Instead we seem to have are introduced to a new political plot, which just smells of mediocrity, and I am already 40 hours in the game. We'll see how it fairs now that I have reached Skellige, but friends of mine who I trust stated that it is mediocre as well, so my expectations aren't high.
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#5692
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I enjoyed the main story of TW3 more than any other Witcher game to date, so I can't complain. I can understand disappointment on the political side of things, but the drastically improved characters and interactions were more than enough to carry it for me.

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I enjoyed the main story of TW3 more than any other Witcher game to date, so I can't complain. I can understand disappointment on the political side of things, but the drastically improved characters and interactions were more than enough to carry it for me.


Oh, I won't disagree. On that front I am engaged in the primary plot quite a lot (possibly even more than I was in TW2) and I do love the interactions with all the characters. The game is certainly great, but yeah the political aspects where a major reason of my enjoyement of the games, so it is a bit of a slap to the face when it comes to that.

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Oh, I won't disagree. On that front I am engaged in the primary plot quite a lot (possibly even more than I was in TW2) and I do love the interactions with all the characters. The game is certainly great, but yeah the political aspects where a major reason of my enjoyement of the games, so it is a bit of a slap to the face when it comes to that.

 

I can't wait to b*tch about Radovid.



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 I enjoyed the main story of TW3 more than any other Witcher game to date, so I can't complain. I can understand disappointment on the political side of things, but the drastically improved characters and interactions were more than enough to carry it for me.  

But it's not a failure on a political level. It's a failure with the entire Act 3 in the main story, it's a failure between tying up the end of TW2 to the beginning of TW3. What the hell did Geralt do in those six months, how did he and Vesemir meet?

 

Yeah sure I loved the character interactions with Ciri, for **** sake I cried in the Empress ending, along with the interactions with Lambert and Eskel but there's so many lousy aspects I can't ignore.

The Wild Hunt is pathetic, Eredin is laughable and the White Frost even more so.
 



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I can't wait to b*tch about Radovid.


He is a child wearing a crown. You'll see how pathetic he is soon enough.

Hardly the same figure that was in TW2.

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I actually like the idea of Radovid...after DA:I I've grown tired of stupid madmen, a dangerously competent madman was refreshing.

Just...seemed kinda random with Radovid. He always seemed to have his s*** at least somewhat together.

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Y'know...talking about Radovid...some ending spoilers...

Spoiler


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 I actually like the idea of Radovid...after DA:I I've grown tired of stupid madmen, a dangerously competent madman was refreshing.

But that's far from the only problem. The problem is Dijkstra turns into a moron at the end of Reasons of State.
 



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Yeah. Everything around the end game seemed really out of character for Dikijstra to me.

 

But I have to say, I think it's surprising that some think the lack of policy was a slap in the face when the developers kept saying it right when the game was announced. They kept saying "We've dabbled a lot into the politics in the Witcher 2. Witcher 3 will be a more personal tale for Geralt". It's because some guy named Sebastian Stepien wasn't on this project as a writer (he's allegedly working on Cyberpunk instead) that I think the political side was dropped.

 

I think the only returning character who became wholly out of character was Radovid. The rest was very fine and some I even liked better this time, Triss for instance. I don't really know what writers were assigned to which characters but I figured, since Stepien was lead on TW2, that he was mainly respnsible for Roche, Henselt, Letho, Triss, Iorveth, Saskia and Radovid etc. but I think a lot of those that returned in Witcher 3 were handled well. The guy Marcin Blacha was a writer on all three witcher games and the lead on TW3, so they had someone holding it together.

 

That's a bit of writer trivia for ya, lol.