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[Paragon Gabriel]

Yeah but these two scenes make sense. Geralt is accused of murdering Foltest and provokes Roche > Ves kills him
Iorveth considers Geralt as a enemy, because he helps Roche, Geralts provokes him -> Iorveths archers kill him
Same can't be said about Triss reaction. If it's a easter-egg then it's a stupid one and shouldn't be in the game.

It is stupid. Hence why Geralt is half naked in that scene. Nothing about it makes sense. No need to over think about it.

[Tensoconix]

If Mr. Blacha and his team really put something as lore- and character-breaking as Triss/Yen choice in the game after correcting the errors of their ways in tW2 (first Witcher being nothing but a really loose fan-fiction) I'll be immensely disappointed.

 

There is a blurry line between staying true to the source material and player agenda if you are as proud of 'adhering to the lore' as CDPR writing team is. Completely rewriting the main protagonist so that he dumps the only woman he's ever loved for a friend with a school crush he feels nothing towards?

 

No. Just no.

[Han Shot First]

Have we heard anything about VAs in TW3?

 

Please tell me they got a new one for Triss. (English version)

[Chewin]

If Mr. Blacha and his team really put something as lore- and character-breaking as Triss/Yen choice in the game after correcting the errors of their ways in tW2 (first Witcher being nothing but a really loose fan-fiction) I'll be immensely disappointed.
 
There is a blurry line between staying true to the source material and player agenda if you are as proud of 'adhering to the lore' as CDPR writing team is. Completely rewriting the main protagonist so that he dumps the only woman he's ever loved for a friend with a school crush he feels nothing towards?
 
No. Just no.

Then you have missed the core concept of the game when it relates to Geralt--which have revolved around the idea of creating player agency in shaping Geralt as a character. CDPR have set the stage, and it is up to the player and how they want to shape their story.

Lore has nothing to do with it.

[Han Shot First]

If Mr. Blacha and his team really put something as lore- and character-breaking as Triss/Yen choice in the game after correcting the errors of their ways in tW2 (first Witcher being nothing but a really loose fan-fiction) I'll be immensely disappointed.

 

There is a blurry line between staying true to the source material and player agenda if you are as proud of 'adhering to the lore' as CDPR writing team is. Completely rewriting the main protagonist so that he dumps the only woman he's ever loved for a friend with a school crush he feels nothing towards?

 

No. Just no.

 

I agree that Geralt choosing Triss over Yen makes absolutely no sense. Yen is Geralt's soulmate in the source material.

 

But the choice isn't really an issue if you have Geralt choose Yen anyway. In that case Geralt & Triss living happily after ever is something that only happens in someone else's game, and it doesn't affect your canon. 

[SmilesJA]

It is stupid. Hence why Geralt is half naked in that scene. Nothing about it makes sense. No need to over think about it.

 

Why did they even have that cutscene?

[Tensoconix]

Then you have missed the core concept of the game when it relates to Geralt--which have revolved around the idea of creating player agency in shaping Geralt as a character. CDPR have set the stage, and it is up to the player and how they want to shape their story.

Lore has nothing to do with it.

Then I guess they've written themselves into a corner with Geralt shrugging off amnesia and getting back to his old Yen-loving self.

 

Go on.

 

I agree that Geralt choosing Triss over Yen makes absolutely no sense. Yen is Geralt's soulmate in the source material.

This man gets it. 

[Chewin]

Then I guess they've written themselves into a corner with Geralt shrugging off amnesia and getting back to his old Yen-loving self.
 
Go on.

Wut?

By the end of the second game Geralt has regained his memories. That Yennefer is important to Geralt is evident, just as his other friends are to him. Geralt is still a set character that has his own traits, but which you as the player have the capability to alter with certain limitations.

However, just as he has regained his memories doesn't mean he is the same person. He could be, depending on player input, but that isn't it the case for everyone. Yennefer is important to Geralt, but ultimately it comes down to HOW important and if there still exist lingering feelings, which will--for all intents and purposes--be up to the player to establish.

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

Yeah, I'm going with Yenn. Geralt leaving the woman he sold his soul to the Wild Hunt for in favour of her best friend rubs me wrong. :S

Have we heard anything about VAs in TW3?
 
Please tell me they got a new one for Triss. (English version)

Apparently Jo Wyatt (femHawke) is Ciri? That's what I heard here anyway.

[Dutchess]

Geralt said he wouldn't know how to deal with Yennefer until he saw her. Seems to me that will mean a player choice.

 

Off topic: what's with this huge ugly game icons suddenly popping up again?

[Tensoconix]

Wut?

By the end of the second game Geralt has regained his memories. That Yennefer is important to Geralt is evident, just as his other friends are to him. Geralt is still a set character that has his own traits, but which you as the player have the capability to alter with certain limitations.

However, just as he has regained his memories doesn't mean he is the same person. He could be, depending on player input, but that isn't it the case for everyone. Yennefer is important to Geralt, but ultimately it comes down to HOW important and if there still exist lingering feelings, which will--for all intents and purposes--be up to the player to establish.

The books have clearly established that Yen and Geralt are meant to be together and that their bond is special, as certain wise golden dragon prophesied. 

 

I'm talking about where exactly you draw the line between player agency and source material. Imagine giving Geralt an option to kill a peasant for refusing to pay you an appropriate amount for an errand. Player agency, defining your character, right? Nope? Exactly.

And this is not even close to picking Triss in how much out of partially set character it is.

 

But whatever, if there is such a choice, I'll certainly experience both options since I'm not fond of depriving myself of content. 

Peace out.

[Red of Rivia]

Wut?

By the end of the second game Geralt has regained his memories. That Yennefer is important to Geralt is evident, just as his other friends are to him. Geralt is still a set character that has his own traits, but which you as the player have the capability to alter with certain limitations.

However, just as he has regained his memories doesn't mean he is the same person. He could be, depending on player input, but that isn't it the case for everyone. Yennefer is important to Geralt, but ultimately it comes down to HOW important and if there still exist lingering feelings, which will--for all intents and purposes--be up to the player to establish.

Accurate, Triss tells you in the first game you must make your own decisions without thinking about the past, I read the books and I will not base myself in them to make a decision. As you said, Yennefer is important to him, but has a loving and plot reason, there is a reason he seeks Yennefer in the third game and is not only loving.

Spoiler

Geralt will find Yennefer early in the game(prologue) and she has a proposal for him. I saw that in one of that's reviews.

 However, you can choose Triss going against the past of Geralt. Demand of Ciri make much sense but I think even if it has changed in that time without memory, daughter is daughter. 

[Chewin]

@Tena The books and what they establish generally means squat here, since this is CDPR own spin of the series.

I don't draw the line, CDPR does. Geralt wouldn't kill a random peasant since it isn't in his character, but when the choice presents itself within certain events in the game, you have a choice in how you want to handle it, including killing someone.

Triss has been featured heavily in two games and even played a part with recovering his memories, so there exists plenty of reasons for people to choose Triss if that is something they wish to pursue. Ultimately it will potentially be up to the player to decide how events will unfold between Yenn and Triss and why they decide to do so.

[Han Shot First]

I can understand where Tensoconix is coming from. It would be sort of like having a Lord of the Rings RPG, where a player controlled Aragon can choose Eowyn over Arwen. It allows the player more choice, but one of those choices does veer away from the source material so sharply as to seem out of character.

 

But that's also why I'll most likely be having Geralt choose Yen. I think that sort of thing only becomes an issue if it completely locks out the choice that would seem more in line with the source material. 

[Red of Rivia]

It is a fact, Geralt was not created by us. The lack of memory was used to approximate the choices of the game from what we want and not the idea of ​​Geralt himself. Now that his memory returned, there may be a conflict between the old and the new Geralt. (based on which of the two he will choose, I personally prefer the Ciri, but ...) But some things are, for example, this new game will not have political influence (according to CD ) after Geralt is neutral and the game comes to something more personal. 

[slimgrin]

Roche is not close to Geralt. They know each other a few days and Roche just needs him to capture the kingslayer. Zoltan and Dandelion can't do anything, considering they are going to be hanged as well. Triss has a close relationship and a very long history with Geralt and then she just let him being kileld by some pricks? She could have easily freed him (there weren't even that much soldiers)

I definitely favored Triss before i have seen this, but now, I don't know. Although I consider to treat this as non-canon because of very bad writing. Books Triss would never just let him just die. Same can be said about games Triss (if we count out this scene) Treating this as a easter-egg sounds good as well.

 

That is nothing more than a careless cinematic which reuses the same clip where Geralt tells Triss to stand down while he and Roche talk to the guards... knowing full well that having a cultured sorceress lecture a regiment of backwater hillbillies might end violently.

 

I want CDPR to take a poll after TW3, and find out who gets chosen the most - Triss, been there from the beginning and bailed his ass out time and again. Or Yen, temperamental and bossy b*tch who finally shows up in the last game.  

[Addai]

Then I guess they've written themselves into a corner with Geralt shrugging off amnesia and getting back to his old Yen-loving self.

 

Go on.

 

This man gets it. 

The games are extensions of the books, not repeats. Player choice will prevail.

[Han Shot First]

That is nothing more than a careless cinematic which reuses the same clip where Geralt tells Triss to stand down while he and Roche talk to the guards... knowing full well that having a cultured sorceress lecture a regiment of backwater hillbillies might end violently.

 

I want CDPR to take a poll after TW3, and find out who gets chosen the most - Triss, been there from the beginning and bailed his ass out time and again. Or Yen, temperamental and bossy b*tch who finally shows up in the last game.

 

Triss has an awful VA though. Like the worst I've ever heard in a AAA title.

 

Also even ignoring the book canon...Yen's just a more interesting character. 

[Heimdall]

Triss has an awful VA though. Like the worst I've ever heard in a AAA title.
 
Also even ignoring the book canon...Yen's just a more interesting character.

Triss' VA never bothered me...

But having read the books, I don't foresee myself being able to have Gerald pick Triss over Yen, even if their relationship can be unhealthy at times.

[Milan92]

Have we heard anything about VAs in TW3?

 

Please tell me they got a new one for Triss. (English version)

 

Laura Bailey for Triss VA!

 

Seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised if she pulled it off.

[Milan92]

 

I want CDPR to take a poll after TW3, and find out who gets chosen the most - Triss, been there from the beginning and bailed his ass out time and again. Or Yen, temperamental and bossy b*tch who finally shows up in the last game.

 

I'm interested in this as well.

 

I'm still not sure wether I'll stick with Triss or not. Its really gonna depend if Yenn is likeable enough

[Morty Smith]

No love for Saskia in here?

[Farci Reprimer]

No love for Saskia in here?

 

There is an entire fanbase dedicated to her only, but in the official game story Geralt and Saskia are unfortunately not into each other.

[Morty Smith]

There is an entire fanbase dedicated to her only, but in the story Geralt and Saskia are unfortunately not into each other.

 

That´s fine by me.

 

Spoiler

I really hope we get to see/hear what has become of her independet state, if the player chose to support that story path.

[Han Shot First]

Laura Bailey for Triss VA!

 

Seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised if she pulled it off.

 

Laura Bailey might break my resolve to stick to book canon. 

 

 

 

No love for Saskia in here?

 

She is a cool character and I hope she returns, but I don't think they should make her a LI for Geralt. Considering the dragon form is her true form...a romance arc would be more than a little weird.