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[Han Shot First]

Wasn't it said that her content adds up to about 4 hours or something like that? The only way she's stealing Geralt's thunder if this game is as short as The Order.

[TheChris92]

I don't know, it doesn't seem all that different from say, The Last of Us, where the central focus was actually on Ellie even if it was Joel you were playing as.. it didn't mean his role was irrelevant by comparison in terms of narrative or anything of sorts.

[Farci Reprimer]

Nobody is stealing anyones thunder in Witcher 3. Ciri and Geralt are equally awesome characters. Those of us who read the books know this well.

 

It is just that in the larger scheme of things so much depends on Ciri´s survival and success in the world. On many levels that does make Ciri significantly more important figure than Geralt. But still remember that we will be still playing as Geralt 95% of the time so it is kinda hard for Ciri to majorly overshadow him in the story.

[Chuvvy]

Geralt has always been the main character in the witcher, and he will always be. Ciri is just part of his life, she may be more important in the grand scheme of things, but Geralt is the main character by far.

 

Besides, it's nice to play something where you're not the chosen one for once. Part of the appeal of Geralt is that he's not particularly important. He's not a worse character for it, he's not a less competent fighter for it. It's just that he's not in a position of power, nor does he want to be. He's caught up in events and is trying to get himself and his friends out in one piece. He can't save the world, because he's not important enough to. You're not a super powerful dude, you're not a hero destined to save the day, and the game doesn't follow the idea of the monomyth.

 

MBT has a great video on the whole idea of it. He actually has two great videos on the witcher. I'd recommend the whole thing, but if you're just interested in what I'm talking about skip to the five minute mark.

 

[Nerevar-as]

Actually, you prevent the world being saved (for a loose definition of the word) in TW1, and his opinion about Emhyr´s plan to the same was that the world wasn´t worth it (and yeah, it isn´t, especially because it isn´t anything that couldn´t be done if people just stopped being jerks). Ciri would be the chosen one, except after Rivia she decides she doesn´t want any part of it.

[Chewin]

Geralt has always been the main character in the witcher, and he will always be. Ciri is just part of his life, she may be more important in the grand scheme of things, but Geralt is the main character by far.

 

Besides, it's nice to play something where you're not the chosen one for once. Part of the appeal of Geralt is that he's not particularly important. He's not a worse character for it, he's not a less competent fighter for it. It's just that he's not in a position of power, nor does he want to be. He's caught up in events and is trying to get himself and his friends out in one peace. He can't save the world, because he's not important enough to. You're not a super powerful dude, you're not a hero destined to save the day, and the game doesn't follow the idea of the monomyth.

 

MBT has a great video on the whole idea of it. He actually has two great videos on the witcher. I'd recommend the whole thing, but if you're just interested in what I'm talking about skip to the five minute mark.

 

 

I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise, since I'm quite certain the majority enjoys what Geralt brings to the table as a character. But just as the youtuber above states--it isn't simply about the character, it is the world. We had three games with Geralt to explore this. I don't see it necessary for a fourth, a fifth or even a sixth game to incorporate these elements with Geralt alone. You can have another character in the world to inhabit these aspects just fine. 

 

Admittedly I would like to have someone new. Geralt is someone who goes with the flow of time and has accepted that Witchers are a dying breed. If another game would put us in the shoes of a witcher again, I'd rather play a proactive character like Letho, who refuses to accept this and seeks ways to restore them. As I said previously, Geralt is an excellent character, but he is restricted to his pre set characteristics and is something that I have explored already (soon in three games). I'd rather have someone new.

[wicked cool]

Theres no way they let the franchise die if its a big hit and my guess if its a create your own that there will be an excuse for a female witcher

[Addai]

GODDAMN IT! AM I THE ONLY ONE AROUND HERE WHO GIVES A **** ABOUT THE LORE?

 

No you're not. I'm not yet worried that CDPR will twink the lore, though. Maybe give an option to play a sorceress instead of a female witcher.

[Call Me Jord]

Theres no way they let the franchise die if its a big hit and my guess if its a create your own that there will be an excuse for a female witcher

 

This is what I was trying to get across before. 

 

The closest thing we have to a female Witcher is Ciri, who received the training of one, without the Mutagens. The Witcher order could definitely benefit from this, carry on taking in the orphans, give them all the training they can. Humans can undergo the trials with the Mutagens that would turn them into the ones we're already familiar with, and the rest will just have to make do.

 

But now that I think of it, I wouldn't mind playing another character in some other part of the Witcher universe that is already set up character wise. It's worked with Geralt, who I somehow absolutely adore, and with how the past 2 games have gone, it would work.

 

Not to mention that with the different planes, the Spheres, there's more then one location they can visit. 

 

I just thought the idea of a custom character would be great, especially for the Witcher universe. 

 

On other news, I believe I'm on the last chapter in "The Last Wish" novel, and if I'm not mistaken, this is where I begun to hate Yennefer lol. 

[nici2412]

Oh god no. Better no Witcher 4 than a witcher 4 with a player-created character. (and I'm saying this as a hardcore fan who even read all books at least 3 times) If I have learned one thing from Bethesa and Bioware then that this leads to  a shallow and bland protagonist and with only so much personality as I can headcanon.

They should reconsider it and continue wth Geralt. If not then with Ciri. IF that's not an option then end the franchise with Witcher 3.

[spirosz]

I'd rather they end the franchise after 3.  I wouldn't mind expansions and what not, but I'm tired of multiple games just cause of the franchise name.  

[Blooddrunk1004]

I wouldn't be worried about what CDPR will do next with Witcher franchise. They will focus on Cyberpunk after TW3 so who knows how long will it take when and if we will see news of the next Witcher game.

 

Since it was already confirmed we will be able to create our own character in Cyberpunk we will see how CDPR can manage that. They handled Geralt extremely well, especially since he is pre-established character, if they can manage to do the same with the main character in Cyberpunk then i won't be worried.

[nici2412]

2min of Ciri gameplay

http://www.ign.com/a...roine-ign-first

[ChrisRudson]

http://thewitcher.com/news/view/1012

 

Twitch stream this Tuesday. 45 minutes of gameplay and a Q&A session.

[Giantdeathrobot]

I never found Geralt to be a great character. He's not badly written by any means but he's often kinda just there while more interesting people drive the plot around him. 

 

Admitedly I haven't read the books. But in the game that's how he comes across to me. Thus I wouldn't mind a create-a-Witcher protagonist or something along those lines. 

[fchopin]

2min of Ciri gameplay
http://www.ign.com/a...roine-ign-first

Wow…She sure is fast.

[TheChris92]

I've already made it clear that I think he's an absolute awful character, so I'm more than up for a game set in that universe with a protagonist who isn't him. A character I create myself would be preferable. But I'm getting that in Cyberpunk, which is a setting and genre I prefer more than any of the former.

This would be the third time I've said it but since people are still discussing, let's make it 3.

[Call Me Jord]

2min of Ciri gameplay

http://www.ign.com/a...roine-ign-first

 

Nice.

 

I wonder if that....burst-dodge (?) is due to her power, or something in a minuscule skill tree. I'm going to go with her power. 

 

Voice is quite nice as well. I don't recall any clips where Yennefer speaks, if there is one, could someone pass it along? It seems they're all hush hush about how these Characters sound, if that's intentional or not who knows. After hearing Geralt's voice, now that I'm re-reading the books I just hear him lol

[Chuvvy]

[nici2412]

Nice.

 

I wonder if that....burst-dodge (?) is due to her power, or something in a minuscule skill tree. I'm going to go with her power. 

 

Voice is quite nice as well. I don't recall any clips where Yennefer speaks, if there is one, could someone pass it along? It seems they're all hush hush about how these Characters sound, if that's intentional or not who knows. After hearing Geralt's voice, now that I'm re-reading the books I just hear him lol

She doesn't have a skiltree. Depending on the sequence we play with her, she will have different abilities. The burst-dodge is just a replacement for the side-dodge Geralt has. You can also see her using a roll one time.

Yennefers voice is great, You can hear her at 00:38.

Reminds me of Cersei in Game of Thrones.

[Han Shot First]

Anyone know who is voicing Yennefer in the English language version? 

 

On that note, have we heard Triss' voice at all? I'm hoping she got a new VA for TW3.

[Addai]

Even if they continue with a set character, no one will live up to Geralt. Not possible. He's got the perfect mixture of agency, competence and badass without being a demigod. The fact that he doesn't drive the plot is a feature, not a bug.

[Han Shot First]

I'm not sure that is necessarily true.

 

To use another series as an example, it was argued many when Star Trek: The Next Generation was announced that Captain Kirk was far too iconic a character and no one else could ever measure up as a captain of a ship named Enterprise. Fast forward a couple decades and now Captain Picard is just as beloved a character as Kirk.

 

It really all depends on how the character is written and who you get to play him or her.

[Red of Rivia]

Oh god no. Better no Witcher 4 than a witcher 4 with a player-created character. (and I'm saying this as a hardcore fan who even read all books at least 3 times) If I have learned one thing from Bethesa and Bioware then that this leads to  a shallow and bland protagonist and with only so much personality as I can headcanon.

They should reconsider it and continue wth Geralt. If not then with Ciri. IF that's not an option then end the franchise with Witcher 3.

I agree with you.

But I go further, even with Geralt or  Ciri in a 4 The Witcher, I will not play because I'm sure that The Witcher 3 will give an ending that will not need anything. So what comes after the end of the game no matter. 

[Chewin]

I never found Geralt to be a great character. He's not badly written by any means but he's often kinda just there while more interesting people drive the plot around him. 

 

Admitedly I haven't read the books. But in the game that's how he comes across to me. Thus I wouldn't mind a create-a-Witcher protagonist or something along those lines. 

 

There is truth to that statement, and is actually part of a reason why Geralt is such a compelling character--he is surrounded by great characters, many who prove to be more cunning, intelligent, stronger, etc than him in several scenarios. It is part of his charm, since I'm tired of typical RPG heroes who has everyone glorifying the protagonist as some sort of saint who stands above everyone else, and it is especially worse when there is nothing substantial to back that claim up, and most often then not many characters are idiots who all view the hero as the one to solve everyone else's problems.

 

However, that is hardly the only aspect that makes Geralt stand out. While Geralt embodies the persona who we as players get to experience the cruel world of the Witcher, there are a plethora of aspects we as a player can experience and shape Geralt; everything from his beliefs, opinions and perspectives on several aspects; ranging from political and ethical ones. He is knowledgable and intelligent (and actually has the option to show this in several cases throughout the game), and despite being political uninterested, displays knowledge on the political arena and can give sound arguments when needed. He is even cunning, and displays this prominently in both games, wherein he alters plans to make him come on top of different scenarios, by manipulating, convincing or all around tricking people.

 

There are also a bunch of other aspects that make him intriguing; his humor, morality, mutation as a witcher, amnesia, etc. Geralt is an excellent character, there's no denying that fact. I have my issues with him, since I do find him to be too much of an observer in the world, mostly because he doesn't think he has a place in it. Thankfully he has the ability to be pro-active instead of simply reactive on several occasions, but I'd like to play someone who views the world differently if there is a next game.