I thought the Cerberus logo was the logo of a front company (like Exxon or Shell...).
I thought the Cerberus logo was the logo of a front company (like Exxon or Shell...).
I think that ship sailed when they started plastering it for inside things.
Or maybe that's how they got so many people to work for them, they didn't know they were working for Cerberus.
I think that ship sailed when they started plastering it for inside things.
Or maybe that's how they got so many people to work for them, they didn't know they were working for Cerberus.
I always figured that the vast majority of people in the galaxy simply didn't know what the logo stood for. Shepard didn't seem to know (he passed by the logo several times on the Lazarus space station and made no remarks about it until Jacob told him about it). It's basically like hiding in plain site for the most part.
I always figured that the vast majority of people in the galaxy simply didn't know what the logo stood for. Shepard didn't seem to know (he passed by the logo several times on the Lazarus space station and made no remarks about it until Jacob told him about it). It's basically like hiding in plain site for the most part.
I can imagine that being true for a time before the story takes place. But anyone with common sense would catch on real fast. Take the SR-2, for example. It has a very unique and well known design, and Shepard constantly has it out in public. Someone, especially the people who handle traffic, are bound to be suspicious of this ship which looks like the SR-1 (only bigger) with the different color scheme and logo on it. Eventually, you think this would get back to the Alliance who would probably figure the logo out given the close history of the two groups. After all, very important people in the universe constantly run into known Cerberus personnel who also wear the logo, it doesn't seem like it would take much to put two and two together.
Aside from the logo, Cerberus even went out of its way to have the Normandy's IFF register as "Cerberus" to just about everyone. The quarians recognized it, and even a random merc band you can come across on some remote planet will recognize the ship, which is kinda funny, since the Normandy is supposed to be a stealth spacecraft.
Aside from the logo, Cerberus even went out of its way to have the Normandy's IFF register as "Cerberus" to just about everyone. The quarians recognized it, and even a random merc band you can come across on some remote planet will recognize the ship, which is kinda funny, since the Normandy is supposed to be a stealth spacecraft.
Cerberus definitely comes off as some sort of para-military group or a better funded version of the Blue Suns, rather than some secret organization.
I guess those simply don't exist in the MEU. Even the Shadow Broker isn't very sneaky.
Aside from the logo, Cerberus even went out of its way to have the Normandy's IFF register as "Cerberus" to just about everyone. The quarians recognized it, and even a random merc band you can come across on some remote planet will recognize the ship, which is kinda funny, since the Normandy is supposed to be a stealth spacecraft.
I just figured that Cerberus only wanted to still be secret in ME1.
Two years later, they're not concerned about that. They want talent to be aware that they're looking to recruit.
And ME2-ME3 time, they want as many people processed into their hivemind as possible, while still not requiring the mass numbers of military that the Alliance has.
I don't think they're secret (in terms of existence and presence) in the time after Sovereign's attack. Secretive, yes, but not secret. If anything, they want Shepard to brandish their logo everywhere: "If Cerberus is good enough for Commander Shepard, it's good enough for me!"
Cerberus = Reckless but calculated risk. Putting Shepard out there is a huge risk, but also a clear recruiting tool. To get enough of humanity and the rest of the galaxy to not necessarily see Cerberus as an automatic threat. And we see, even if mostly on the sidelines of the lore, that it worked. Many sleeper agents, many inside men, and seemingly contacts within the top of Salarian command.
Shepard only isn't immediately stopped at places like the Citadel and maybe Illium due to contrivances. Otherwise, the game wisely puts most events to take place in the middle of the lawless Terminus Systems or Krogan DMZ.
Probably not then. As I said, it's bulking up, not overly-aggrandizing.
And Retribution really didn't bulk up much either. Especially considering how ME3 all but ignored everything that happened in it. It leads me to believe that the novels (or at least Retribution and Deception) are really only semi-canon.
Deception.... "semi-canon"......
.... Sorry, I can't stop f***ing laughing at even considering that a horsesh*t novel as terrible as Deception to have any relation to the word "canon", even if it's "semi-canon".
Deception.... "semi-canon"......
.... Sorry, I can't stop f***ing laughing at even considering that a horsesh*t novel as terrible as Deception to have any relation to the word "canon", even if it's "semi-canon".
I wonder how all those people who bought multiple copies of the novel felt when they learned that the re-do wasn't ever going to appear. They wanted to keep the OC's so that they could sell them years down the road for money. Granted, Deception I think was pulled from circulation, though I still see it occasionally at a local bookstore. I have two copies. I got one when it came out to, and I got another as a birthday gift from a friend unfamiliar with the series, but knew that I was really into it.
Hudson tweeted that he thought the novel was great when it debuted, and that he had read it. Blatant lies I say to that.
But regardless, it's clear that some of the events were likely meant to be viewed as canon.
It's not a GREAT novel (not recommending it), but to me most of the criticisms in that widely circulated document just seemed stupid. Even if the lore in the novel was fixed, do people expect the story to change? It's still going to be a sad end to a bunch of characters.I wonder how all those people who bought multiple copies of the novel felt when they learned that the re-do wasn't ever going to appear. They wanted to keep the OC's so that they could sell them years down the road for money. Granted, Deception I think was pulled from circulation, though I still see it occasionally at a local bookstore. I have two copies. I got one when it came out to, and I got another as a birthday gift from a friend unfamiliar with the series, but knew that I was really into it.
Hudson tweeted that he thought the novel was great when it debuted, and that he had read it. Blatant lies I say to that.
But regardless, it's clear that some of the events were likely meant to be viewed as canon.
It's not a GREAT novel (not recommending it), but to me most of the criticisms in that widely circulated document just seemed stupid. Even if the lore in the novel was fixed, do people expect the story to change? It's still going to be a sad end to a bunch of characters.
Perhaps they seek "clarity and closure" 
Perhaps they seek "clarity and closure"
No, we fought and documented all that garbage that's in ME: Deception so that Dietz would get his f***ing sh*t right and that BioWare would have done more proofing of his work before signing off and releasing a novel with an insanely ridiculous amount of errors to their characters and universe canon. 
The fact that it's a hugely sh*tty story that's ultimately meaningless to the ME series in every regard is kinda secondary compared to all the canon bullsh*t. 
It's not a GREAT novel (not recommending it), but to me most of the criticisms in that widely circulated document just seemed stupid. Even if the lore in the novel was fixed, do people expect the story to change? It's still going to be a sad end to a bunch of characters.
Well, it was compositionally flawed. I think the timescales and event placement of the story should be fixed; a lot of it is irreconcilably broken with the rest of the franchise.
It wasn't just a matter of it being a sad story (that's not what the people were complaining about.) It's that it was a story that is inconsistent and irreconcilable with the rest of the franchise. It needed a serious overhaul (which will likely never happen) to make the events capable of being consistent with the rest of the franchise, especially the problems regarding timelines, characters, and setting.
Why are the Cerberus troopers wearing ME3 armor?
I like wet miranda tbh
It's not a GREAT novel (not recommending it), but to me most of the criticisms in that widely circulated document just seemed stupid. Even if the lore in the novel was fixed, do people expect the story to change? It's still going to be a sad end to a bunch of characters.
It's not even a decent novel. It's poor throughout from a lore perspective to an editing perspective to a narrative perspective.
It's pure dren.
Why are the Cerberus troopers wearing ME3 armor?
Consistency from a Foundation novel?
Pish-posh.
Consistency from a Foundation novel?
Pish-posh.
I know, my bad. I was hoping the Cerberus troopers in the Omega DLC would have the old-skool Cerberus visor armor like from the Invasion comic and ME2, but noooooo, they just had to be re-equipped. It would have done the story much more credit had the Cerberus personnel there been original un-indoctrinated volunteers. It would have given the action more weight as you aren't just disposing of faceless mooks with Aria but people.
I have no words.
Citadel DLC was a lieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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