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[Gervaise]

I had always assumed that since the warmest countries were in the north and the coldest in the south, the climate would operate as in the southern hemisphere, with greater variation between seasons in the south, with it being colder in winter and warmer in summer.   However, in Masked Empire it is said that the nobles, like the birds, fly south for the winter.   Hence the Winter Palace near Halamshiral where traditionally the emperor/empress retires during the winter months.   So is this to take advantage of winter sports that involve cold and snow?    Otherwise, you would have thought they would move out of Val Royeaux in the summer, since large cities are always hotter, smellier and more unhealthy in the summer months (which is why in Jane Austen's novels people go to Bath for the Summer and return to London in the Winter)  and return there in the winter months.    Is there some peculiarity to Thedas climate or has this been explained somewhere?

[DrBlingzle]

 However, in Masked Empire it is said that the nobles, like the birds, fly south for the winter. 

Yeah I spotted that as well (I'm really pedantic). The  book was written by Patrick Weekes who is relatively new to the DA team so I think he just didn't realize that thedas was on the southern hemisphere and just made a minor mistake.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Yeah I spotted that as well (I'm really pedantic). The  book was written by Patrick Weekes who is relatively new to the DA team so I think he just didn't realize that thedas was on the southern hemisphere and just made a minor mistake.

 

I think I recall him saying as much, although google did not prove helpful.

[SomberXIII]

Wait. Patrick Weeks is new to the team? Didn't know about that. I thought he was a writer behind Origins and its sequel.

On-topic: Southern regions are colder due to them being near to the Southern Hemisphere.

[Herr Uhl]

Wait. Patrick Weeks is new to the team? Didn't know about that. I thought he was a writer behind Origins and its sequel.

 

No, he is new on the team from the ME team. Might be thinking of his wife that worked on DA2, but as an editor.

[Gervaise]

I don't think PW can accept all the blame.   I mean surely someone from the regular team checked the novel for consistency with the world state?   If it was confined to the novel there would not be a problem but the Winter Palace is being used for a setting in the game.  I think I'll have to stick with the idea that they go there because the hunting is better there in the winter or something similar.   I know it seems pedantic but I'm using trivia to fill the time before the next reveal.

[dgcatanisiri]

I don't think PW can accept all the blame.   I mean surely someone from the regular team checked the novel for consistency with the world state?   If it was confined to the novel there would not be a problem but the Winter Palace is being used for a setting in the game.  I think I'll have to stick with the idea that they go there because the hunting is better there in the winter or something similar.   I know it seems pedantic but I'm using trivia to fill the time before the next reveal.

 

These things are easy to slip through. You'll often see typos in published novels, things that have been looked over and checked by the writer and editors multiple times, and yet this one thing they missed. If a typo can get through, so too can a bit of what is to the writer and the reader a normal part of life that actual in-universe lore contradicts. The DA writers and the publisher of the books all live on a continent in the northern hemisphere, so that seemed right to them, missing the fact that Thedas is supposed to be in the southern hemisphere. These things happen.

[Nyeredzi]

The Bioware team is not one for geography.

 

Blistering deserts near the same latitude as the coldest location (Kokari Wilds) in Ferelden,. They even said there were going to be rain forests in some of the areas, how bizarre is that. A rain forest in the same climate as that of Europe, northern Europe.

[DrBlingzle]

The Bioware team is not one for geography.

 

Blistering deserts near the same latitude as the coldest location (Kokari Wilds) in Ferelden,. They even said there were going to be rain forests in some of the areas, how bizarre is that. A rain forest in the same climate as that of Europe, northern Europe.

Well the Western Approach is an unnatural desert caused by the 2econd blight. I havent heard of rain forests though, when did you hear that?

 

I don't think PW can accept all the blame. 

Ah, I don't really blame PW, it seems to be a very minor mistake, it's hardly like he was saying that Andrate lead a blight with an army of Qunari to defeat the darkspawn who had been oppresing all the templars.

[ladyiolanthe]

 

The Bioware team is not one for geography.

 

Blistering deserts near the same latitude as the coldest location (Kokari Wilds) in Ferelden,. They even said there were going to be rain forests in some of the areas, how bizarre is that. A rain forest in the same climate as that of Europe, northern Europe

 

 

 

We have rainforests in British Columbia, Canada... they have more northern-adapted tree species such as western red cedar and western hemlock, but they are in fact still rainforests. The designation "rainforest" is based on annual rainfall and presence of trees (as opposed to grasses), not really anything else. See http://www.pc.gc.ca/...ul/natcul1.aspx for more info.

 

And most of Antarctica is in fact a desert... I don't know whether the desert in the Western Approach of Thedas is a hot desert. It could be a cold one.  The designation of "desert" is, again, based on annual rainfall and nothing else. See http://www.ucmp.berk...mes/deserts.php for more info.

[Nyeredzi]

 

 

The Bioware team is not one for geography.

 

Blistering deserts near the same latitude as the coldest location (Kokari Wilds) in Ferelden,. They even said there were going to be rain forests in some of the areas, how bizarre is that. A rain forest in the same climate as that of Europe, northern Europe.

 

We have rainforests in British Columbia, Canada... they have more northern-adapted tree species such as western red cedar and western hemlock, but they are in fact still rainforests. The designation "rainforest" is based on annual rainfall and presence of trees (as opposed to grasses), not really anything else. See http://www.pc.gc.ca/...ul/natcul1.aspx for more info.

 

And most of Antarctica is in fact a desert... I don't know whether the desert in the Western Approach of Thedas is a hot desert. It could be a cold one.  The designation of "desert" is, again, based on annual rainfall and nothing else. See http://www.ucmp.berk...mes/deserts.php for more info.

 

actually they said jungles

 

[BabyFratelli]

I'm pretty sure the weather in Inquisition will just be demons.

[OctagonalSquare]

The Bioware team is not one for geography.

 

Blistering deserts near the same latitude as the coldest location (Kokari Wilds) in Ferelden,. They even said there were going to be rain forests in some of the areas, how bizarre is that. A rain forest in the same climate as that of Europe, northern Europe.

Latitude is not the only thing that affects climate. Much of it has to do with air currents and other things.

 

Also, there are rainforests in Alaska.

[ladyiolanthe]

actually they said jungles

 

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Yep, they do, you're right. Thanks for posting that video to refresh my memory. But they say the jungles will  be in "some areas". Northern Orlais could be far enough north that it gets pretty hot, hence jungles. Hard to say.

 

Octagonal square is also correct; currents, mountains, large bodies of water, etc. play an important role in climate. For example, Scotland and northern Labrador are found at the same latitude, yet Scotland has a pretty mild mixed and deciduous forest biome while Labrador has polar bear-inhabited tundra on the coast, and boreal forest inland. You probably know that's because the Gulf Stream and the North Atlantic Drift convey warm ocean water from the Caribbean up to the UK.

 

So, even if Thedas were based on the real world, which it isn't, there is room for some interesting variations in climate.

[SerCambria358]

The Bioware team is not one for geography.

 

Blistering deserts near the same latitude as the coldest location (Kokari Wilds) in Ferelden,. They even said there were going to be rain forests in some of the areas, how bizarre is that. A rain forest in the same climate as that of Europe, northern Europe.

Our planets geography doesnt apply to a fantasy world with alternate dimensions filled with spirits.

 

When they made Thedas (again a fantasy world) realism was not on their mind, therefore it shouldnt be a criticism if they didnt take the advice of a geologist 

[Statare]

The Bioware team is not one for geography.

 

Blistering deserts near the same latitude as the coldest location (Kokari Wilds) in Ferelden,. They even said there were going to be rain forests in some of the areas, how bizarre is that. A rain forest in the same climate as that of Europe, northern Europe.

 

The Western Approach as depicted in Asunder, is a cold desert (they mention it in Asunder). Probably similar to the High Desert of Oregon, California, Nevada and Idaho on the Colombia Plateau / Great Basin in the United States. Such places are dry, with little precipitation or humidity, are high elevation, and are cold in the Winter hot in the Summer. Much of the ecosystems around the Andes are similar High Deserts. Not that weird actually for where it is. They even look a lot like how the Western Approach is depicted in game.

 

The jungle bit is strange. I haven't seen any screen shots in game that I would consider jungle-like. The Emerald Graves looks like a standard temperate rainforest, maybe even inspired by a redwood forest. So, maybe the jungle they refer to is a zone completely in the Fade or a secret place in the North they have not revealed yet, or someone exaggerated. 

[Maria Caliban]

Wait. Patrick Weeks is new to the team? Didn't know about that. I thought he was a writer behind Origins and its sequel.

This is his first DA game.
 

On-topic: Southern regions are colder due to them being near to the Southern Hemisphere.

1) All of Thedas is in the southern hemisphere.

2) Places are warmer because they're closer to the equator.
 

The Bioware team is not one for geography.

Blistering deserts near the same latitude as the coldest location (Kokari Wilds) in Ferelden,. They even said there were going to be rain forests in some of the areas, how bizarre is that. A rain forest in the same climate as that of Europe, northern Europe.

ladyiolanthe is not one for geography.

Deserts exists at all latitudes. Rainforests can easily have a climate like Europe.

Oh, you were having tag problems. Yeah, that dude tends to make silly comments. Just memorize his name and watch out when he changes it.

 

However, in Masked Empire it is said that the nobles, like the birds, fly south for the winter.

Writer error.

[Han Shot First]

 

So, even if Thedas were based on the real world, which it isn't, there is room for some interesting variations in climate.

 

Hawaii is a great example of that.

 

Both of these are pictures of different parts of the Big Island of Hawaii:

 

 

 

[KC_Prototype]

Southern portion of Thedas is colder than the northern portion. That's why Rivain and Antiva have darker complected people.

[Senya]

 

 

The Bioware team is not one for geography.

 

Blistering deserts near the same latitude as the coldest location (Kokari Wilds) in Ferelden,. They even said there were going to be rain forests in some of the areas, how bizarre is that. A rain forest in the same climate as that of Europe, northern Europe.

 

We have rainforests in British Columbia, Canada... they have more northern-adapted tree species such as western red cedar and western hemlock, but they are in fact still rainforests. The designation "rainforest" is based on annual rainfall and presence of trees (as opposed to grasses), not really anything else. See http://www.pc.gc.ca/...ul/natcul1.aspx for more info.

 

And most of Antarctica is in fact a desert... I don't know whether the desert in the Western Approach of Thedas is a hot desert. It could be a cold one.  The designation of "desert" is, again, based on annual rainfall and nothing else. See http://www.ucmp.berk...mes/deserts.php for more info.

 

There is only one explanation for this.

 

All the magic being released into the atmospher for millenia has resulted in:

 

Climate Change.

 

It wasn't so bad when mages only used their natural mana to cast spells, but with the discovery of Lyrium, Mages could suddenly replenish themselves and cast more more powerful spells at a greater frequency. This gave rise to more efficient agriculture, more cities, and a greater population which meant more magic over a period of thousands of years.

 

Tevinter in particular is addicted to an ever-dwindling supply of Lyrium ot maintain their infrastructure and constant conflicts with the Qunari. Meanwhle, Lyrium is the Dwarves main resource. Their survival is tied to it. When Lyrium production peaks, this will spell doom for the Dwarves, Tevinters, and any civilization that relies on Lyrium to function.

[Nyeredzi]

Yeah, that dude tends to make silly comments. Just memorize his name and watch out when he changes it.

*Ahem*

 

Whatever..