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Um. Some of us thing the guys in Inquisition are plenty hot. In fact, I think they're collectively the hottest bunch of guys we've seen in a Dragon Age game so far. Hotness is not an objective quality.

 

(And I'm not even particularly interested in Cullen, but have you SEEN his thread?!)

Have you seen the Fenris thread? lol!

 

And no reason to be offended. 

 

But the overall majority of players (outside the forums) likely aren't going to find Iron Bull or Blackwall hot. And the difference between their level of attractiveness vs. the level of attractiveness given to Cass, Josephine, and Vivienne, is a big one. Also the guys get all human girls (assuming Vivi is the last female LI they announce...). Why can't a man get a dwarf? Or a qunari? lol - they don't even get an elf.

 

It is true - beyond video games - that women are expected to lower their standards when it comes to being attracted to other people (namely men). 



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The third LI is Emile de Launcet.

 

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Have you seen the Fenris thread? lol!

 

Hey, I never said Fenris wasn't hot. (Although it's not his looks that attract me - I was indifferent to him until he opened his mouth and started talking in Gideon Emory's voice.)

 

My point is that Cullen seems to have approximately nine million fangirls who think he is the hottest thing since the sun. So I'm not sure that 'women don't have anyone hot to romance in DAI' is really a majority opinion.



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Hey, I never said Fenris wasn't hot. (Although it's not his looks that attract me - I was indifferent to him until he opened his mouth and started talking in Gideon Emory's voice.)

 

My point is that Cullen seems to have approximately nine million fangirls who think he is the hottest thing since the sun. So I'm not sure that 'women don't have anyone hot to romance in DAI' is really a majority opinion.

Sadly, he was attractive in the older games, but his new style is... not unattractive per say... it just doesn't look like Cullen. (to me)



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By the way, these are all just my opinions (about Blackwall, Cullen, IB). And as far as assuming the majority of players wouldn't find IB or BW attractive, those are just my speculations/predictions. Realistically speaking, I feel pretty sure of those predictions. The forums really aren't a solid gauge on the whole fan base. 



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I think it's just a bit lopsided. You know? Give the guys a female dwarf. Give them a qunari woman with no hair and missing an eye, or a limb. Give them something offbeat. Instead they have pretty human girls with pretty skin with all their body parts (of bodies that are the ideal height) intact. 

 

We have a bald elf - who is really the only LI that interests me. I'd still pick Fenris, Anders, Alistair, or Zevran over Solas any day - based on looks. We have an old man. We have a qunari with longhorn horns, no eye, and no hair - and they made his head smaller than it should be proportionate-wise to his body. 


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See, I think the problem there is that ideas about female attractiveness are ridiculously homogenised and that's reflected in BioWare games like it is in the rest of the media. (I mean, we have men complaining that Cassandra isn't attractive because of her jaw. Heaven knows how they'd react if she had one eye.)

 

I don't think the solution to that is to make the men blander. I couldn't be happier that we're getting away from the boyish good looks of previous DA love interests this time around. (Because however you slice it and whoever you think the last two male LIs will be, that's where we're going.) As someone who thinks variety is the spice of life when it comes to hot dudes, I'm pleased by the prospect of dwarves, walking beards, bald elves and seven foot tall monsters who are missing an eye.

 

I do wish that they'd give us more variety in the female love interests, as well. Bring on the dwarves and qunari, at the very least.



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I don't mind variety as long as there's at least one "Zevran" or "Alistair" type. Because if we nosedive into, "Everything must be offbeat/an acquired taste!" then that's not fair either.

Lol, but of course the guys are still being catered to. Actually a good friend of mine is pretty angry that all he has to choose from are human girls... :/
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8 romaces

 

1)Cassandra-straight

2)Cullen-straight

3)Sera-lesbian

4)Dorian-gay

5)Josethine-bi

 

Varrick-not a Li

Lelianna-not a Li

Cole-not a Li

 

Blakwall-possibly not a Li because he is old grey warden and die

 

Bull-possibly not a Li because he is a Qunari spy and  "dwarven problem"(because of the same stupid reason  with height differences why devs does not give dwarf Li, especially female dwarf Li)

 

Vivienne

Solas

 

and 1-2 person who is not a companion and advisors



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Blakwall-possibly not a Li because he is old grey warden and die

 

 

I have no interest in which male characters turn out to be the LIs (my character will be male and pursue one of the female LIs), but I'm going to play the devil's advocate with Blackwall. I've seen a lot of people argue that he won't be one of the LIs, and the chief reasons usually given are that 1) he's old, and 2) he is a senior Warden that might be close to his calling. It is possible that they could be right and Blackwall won't be one of the LIs, but I don't think either of those two things automatically rule him out either.

 

Lets start with him being old. We don't know how old he is exactly, and not all of the DA:I LIs are in their twenties. Cassandra for example is either in her late 30s or early 40s. Blackwall may even be around the same age. 

 

Being close to the calling and near death? That doesn't necessarily rule him out either. See Thane in Mass Effect.



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too many was not happy because of Thane death

 

and yes he is too old, on concept arts he have a gray hair on his beard...he at least is not younger than Duncan



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8 romaces

 

1)Cassandra-straight

2)Cullen-straight

3)Sera-lesbian

4)Dorian-gay

5)Josethine-bi

 

Varrick-not a Li

Lelianna-not a Li

Cole-not a Li

 

Blakwall-possibly not a Li because he is old grey warden and die

 

Bull-possibly not a Li because he is a Qunari spy and  "dwarven problem"(because of the same stupid reason  with height differences why devs does not give dwarf Li, especially female dwarf Li)

 

Vivienne

Solas

 

and 1-2 person who is not a companion and advisors

 

Who is to say Varric isn't a LI? Bioware said there will be race-gated LI's for story reasons , Varric fits that pretty perfectly that he is only interested in dwarf-women. (maybe elves , possibly Qunari . He only says he's not into Humans , nothing was said about the other 2 races as far as I know)

 

Also IB could be another of the race-gated , to Humans and Qunari only. and All LI's are Companions or Advisors , there are no NPC Romances , just flirts.



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Who is to say Varric isn't a LI? Bioware said there will be race-gated LI's for story reasons , Varric fits that pretty perfectly that he is only interested in dwarf-women. (maybe elves , possibly Qunari . He only says he's not into Humans , nothing was said about the other 2 races as far as I know)

 

Also IB could be another of the race-gated , to Humans and Qunari only. and All LI's are Companions or Advisors , there are no NPC Romances , just flirts.

 

Problem with that logic is that it would mean two race-gated LIs for women and possibly gay men.  More likely, one of the female LIs is race gated.  It's doubtful that person is Cassandra, it isn't Josephine, so that leaves Sera (unlikely as she's the only lesbian) or Vivienne.  So, probably VIvienne.

 

And as to the discussion about the hotness of the men... I don't find most of the males attractive either, BUT, to me, Cullen is downright hot, and Solas isn't horrible to look at either (at least, some screenshots of him make him look rather appealing.  Others... not so much).  And yes, I think it is often overlooked that women also are attracted to, well, attractive people.  However, there are still plenty of people who DO find Iron Bull and Blackwall attractive--attractiveness is subjective.  And even then, honestly, to me, it's a game.  I'm not the one romancing these people, my character is.  Cullen is hot, but I haven't forgotten his attitude about mages, and that's completely unappealing to me.  I don't want to pursue him since I mostly play mages (and the occasional rogue).

 

I don't know for sure who the final LIs will be, but I think we'll have at least one of them revealed today.  I want Solas to be one of them, not gonna lie, but, hey, if he's not... so what?  I'll be happy for the fans of the character who is instead.



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Problem with that logic is that it would mean two race-gated LIs for women and possibly gay men.  More likely, one of the female LIs is race gated.  It's doubtful that person is Cassandra, it isn't Josephine, so that leaves Sera (unlikely as she's the only lesbian) or Vivienne.  So, probably VIvienne.

 

 

 

Well if i'm not mistaken bioware said not everyone would have even LI options , so it would be just fine if Varric was for FDwarves only , and IB is very likely BI so everyone , provided there Human or Qunari , can romance him.


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Problem with that logic is that it would mean two race-gated LIs for women and possibly gay men.  More likely, one of the female LIs is race gated.  It's doubtful that person is Cassandra, it isn't Josephine, so that leaves Sera (unlikely as she's the only lesbian) or Vivienne.  So, probably VIvienne.

 

And as to the discussion about the hotness of the men... I don't find most of the males attractive either, BUT, to me, Cullen is downright hot, and Solas isn't horrible to look at either (at least, some screenshots of him make him look rather appealing.  Others... not so much).  And yes, I think it is often overlooked that women also are attracted to, well, attractive people.  However, there are still plenty of people who DO find Iron Bull and Blackwall attractive--attractiveness is subjective.  And even then, honestly, to me, it's a game.  I'm not the one romancing these people, my character is.  Cullen is hot, but I haven't forgotten his attitude about mages, and that's completely unappealing to me.  I don't want to pursue him since I mostly play mages (and the occasional rogue).

 

I don't know for sure who the final LIs will be, but I think we'll have at least one of them revealed today.  I want Solas to be one of them, not gonna lie, but, hey, if he's not... so what?  I'll be happy for the fans of the character who is instead.

I'm pretty content with Cullen and Dorian. But I'd like to know the third male LI all the same. I'd really like for it to be Solas. I'm with you, Brass.

 

Sidenote: I am not attracted to Cullen at all. But I love (love) Greg Ellis. Cullen was attractive in prior games, sorta. Not anything that caught my eye, but in hindsight... sure I wouldn't turn him down. Dorian, however, is gorgeous. He's good with the mustache, but I shopped it off at one point for curiosity's sake and - wow - he's even more gorgeous (to me). Those eyes and cheekbones. His general build. Uh... yes please. He's a beautiful man. haha!

 

I will only be able to romance him with a male Inquisitor.

 

^^^This is not a problem though. Truth is, I admit I project myself onto my player characters hardcore. In fact, I often just name them my own name. (My name works for both males and females.) That's how some players roll. It's not a choice for me. It's just something I can't help. I always project my mind and soul into this little person I create.

 

Back to Dorian: The reason I am a-okay with Dorian being gay is because I'm gender fluid (irl). I shift between male and female on a regular basis. Gender doesn't define me. I most often gravitate toward the straight female LI options in games. If there is a lesbian option, I'm typically not interested, but there are rare cases in which my interest is peaked. Sera hasn't quite made the cut. (Had Cassandra been the lesbian, or even bisexual, option - I would have gone for her as a female PC. She has that androgyny in a woman that I find appealing.)

 

Also I believe you're on the money about Vivi. She's the one I'd like to romance the most with a male. Though Josephine is interesting too - but she's not a party member. 

 

Regardless, I would like to know the third male LI. I personally hope it's Solas. And the only other one I'd be content with in lieu of Solas is Varric. Though he just kind of feels like... my brother... LOL!



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Well if i'm not mistaken bioware said not everyone would have even LI options , so it would be just fine if Varric was for FDwarves only , and IB is very likely BI so everyone , provided there Human or Qunari , can romance him.

 

After the backlash from women about the lack of LIs for straight women in ME3, would they really cut down on the number of LIs for straight women by racially gating two LIs available to women?  It wouldn't be a smart move.

 

I'm not saying Varric cannot be an LI, but I'm saying if Iron Bull is--and it seems almost certain that he will be--then Varric becomes less likely because it would severely cut down on which LIs a player of any given female Inquisitor could pursue (since it's likely there would be two of them gated against elves, one against dwarves, etc).  Not that they couldn't do it, but I think the unfairness will stem from the fact that if you play a certain race/gender combination on either side, you may have fewer options.

 

Personally I will be rather angry if both of the race-gated LIs are male options, and it won't be because it means I don't get my LI of choice, but because it's really unfair for female players in general.  I'm okay with playing a celibate game or two.  I am not okay with suddenly having two of my three options taken away because I happened to play an elf.  Just my two cents.

 

Edited to add:  It may also cut down on LIs for gay men.  Which is also a big concern, although it is unlikely that Varric is bisexual.

 

Edited again to add:  Again, it is not inconceivable, but it would be an ugly thing to do.  I can see limiting ONE LI away from a certain race/gender combination, but if it took two away, that would go a bit too far, since it leaves some players with only one option.  I have trouble seeing BioWare go that far with it.



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After the backlash from women about the lack of LIs for straight women in ME3, would they really cut down on the number of LIs for straight women by racially gating two LIs available to women?  It wouldn't be a smart move.

 

I'm not saying Varric cannot be an LI, but I'm saying if Iron Bull is--and it seems almost certain that he will be--then Varric becomes less likely because it would severely cut down on which LIs a player of any given female Inquisitor could pursue (since it's likely there would be two of them gated against elves, one against dwarves, etc).  Not that they couldn't do it, but I think the unfairness will stem from the fact that if you play a certain race/gender combination on either side, you may have fewer options.

 

Personally I will be rather angry if both of the race-gated LIs are male options, and it won't be because it means I don't get my LI of choice, but because it's really unfair for female players in general.  I'm okay with playing a celibate game or two.  I am not okay with suddenly having two of my three options taken away because I happened to play an elf.  Just my two cents.

 

Edited to add:  It may also cut down on LIs for gay men.  Which is also a big concern, although it is unlikely that Varric is bisexual.

 

Edited again to add:  Again, it is not inconceivable, but it would be an ugly thing to do.  I can see limiting ONE LI away from a certain race/gender combination, but if it took two away, that would go a bit too far, since it leaves some players with only one option.  I have trouble seeing BioWare go that far with it.

 

IB might not be , He will bed anyone he is sure he won't break so that may still include Dwarves and Elves (we can hope right lol?) . Varric we only know doesn't have a thing for humans. so he may be gated just against them , without Bioware revealing it , all we can do is guess sadly. 

 

And i'll admit for ME3 my Fem-Shep got screwed over and not in a fun way. Thane dies , Jacob just sucks , Vega wasnt a full LI sadly. Garrus while I loved his character and even his romance scene's still wasn't my favorite either , so really I generally went with Kaiden who I did like but still.... poor thane.



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IB might not be , He will bed anyone he is sure he won't break so that may still include Dwarves and Elves (we can hope right lol?) . Varric we only know doesn't have a thing for humans. so he may be gated just against them , without Bioware revealing it , all we can do is guess sadly. 

 

And i'll admit for ME3 my Fem-Shep got screwed over and not in a fun way. Thane dies , Jacob just sucks , Vega wasnt a full LI sadly. Garrus while I loved his character and even his romance scene's still wasn't my favorite either , so really I generally went with Kaiden who I did like but still.... poor thane.

 

I would honestly be completely on board with the Varric fans, if not for the fact he would most likely be race-gated, and that he has his ongoing thing with Bianca (not his crossbow, but the woman whose memory he is still in love with).  I'm not sure I'd be okay with romancing him knowing that he did, and always will, love Bianca more.  Also, the fact that he is most likely not bisexual would also mean one less LI for gay or bisexual male characters, on top of most likely shutting out all women except for dwarves.  I did adore him in DA2, so I won't be totally crushed if he's an option--in fact, not at all crushed.  I just will be very unhappy about the romance situation for straight women who play elf characters, and of course the gay/bi men who will also get fewer options, if Varric and Iron Bull are both gated.

 

Another possibility some people have entertained is that Vivienne will not be an option at all, and three of the remaining unconfirmed males will be LIs.  I don't see that happening, because it would reduce the number of potential LIs for straight male and lesbian or bisexual female characters.

 

Some speculate that Iron Bull is not a true romance, but I think it will turn out he is, albeit with a more Zevran type tone.  Weekes said something about "being very open," and I think that may mean that the Inquisitor must also be open to other people being with Iron Bull at the same time, as well as... other matters.  So he may be a non-monogamous, or more casual, romance option that may or may not get more serious.  And yet, he's almost certainly a fully fledged romance.

 

So, basically, Iron Bull, Vivienne, and one of the three of Solas, Varric, and Blackwall.  Could be any of them, but again I think Varric is less likely due to probable race-gating, which we can almost be certain will be the case with Iron Bull.



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I would honestly be completely on board with the Varric fans, if not for the fact he would most likely be race-gated, and that he has his ongoing thing with Bianca (not his crossbow, but the woman whose memory he is still in love with).  I'm not sure I'd be okay with romancing him knowing that he did, and always will, love Bianca more.  Also, the fact that he is most likely not bisexual would also mean one less LI for gay or bisexual male characters, on top of most likely shutting out all women except for dwarves.  I did adore him in DA2, so I won't be totally crushed if he's an option--in fact, not at all crushed.  I just will be very unhappy about the romance situation for straight women who play elf characters, and of course the gay/bi men who will also get fewer options, if Varric and Iron Bull are both gated.

 

Another possibility some people have entertained is that Vivienne will not be an option at all, and three of the remaining unconfirmed males will be LIs.  I don't see that happening, because it would reduce the number of potential LIs for straight male and lesbian or bisexual female characters.

 

Some speculate that Iron Bull is not a true romance, but I think it will turn out he is, albeit with a more Zevran type tone.  Weekes said something about "being very open," and I think that may mean that the Inquisitor must also be open to other people being with Iron Bull at the same time, as well as... other matters.  So he may be a non-monogamous, or more casual, romance option that may or may not get more serious.  And yet, he's almost certainly a fully fledged romance.

 

So, basically, Iron Bull, Vivienne, and one of the three of Solas, Varric, and Blackwall.  Could be any of them, but again I think Varric is less likely due to probable race-gating, which we can almost be certain will be the case with Iron Bull.

 

The real Bianca we have no idea her fate do we? She could be dead.

 

Viv has to be a LI if we want things a even 4 / 4 , doesn't mean it will be even.

 

IB I think would be the same quality as LI as the others , with a Zevran feel perhaps , but you know at the end falling in love etc etc.

 

Blackwall I don't think would be a LI , I dont know.. being a Older warden and everything gives me doubts.



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The real Bianca we have no idea her fate do we? She could be dead.

 

Viv has to be a LI if we want things a even 4 / 4 , doesn't mean it will be even.

 

IB I think would be the same quality as LI as the others , with a Zevran feel perhaps , but you know at the end falling in love etc etc.

 

Blackwall I don't think would be a LI , I dont know.. being a Older warden and everything gives me doubts.

 

Even if Bianca is dead, that doesn't mean Varric is not still in love with her memory.  Just because someone dies, doesn't mean you stop loving them.  Inquisitor would be second best even if he were willing.

 

I wouldn't be crushed if Varric were an option, but I'm really hoping for Solas instead--Solas is new, and his described personality really appeals to me.  He's intelligent, open-minded, thoughtful, etc.  But I'd bromance either of them.

 

As for Blackwall, I don't personally find him attractive, BUT, others do.  And there's really nothing either for or against his being a romance, except for the devs' "soon" in the Raptr Q&A.  "Soon" more likely means that fans will know whether he is or isn't a romance soon, than it does that he will soon be announced as one--but that is a possibility.

 

Again, it could be any of them.



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While nothing's confirmed, I'm fairly convinced that Iron Bull will turn out to be a male LI.



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While nothing's confirmed, I'm fairly convinced that Iron Bull will turn out to be a male LI.


I am fairly sure as well. There are three companions left for the LI spots. I'm 99% on Vivi and 90% on IB. For the tiebreaker I'm hoping for Solas.

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Iron Bull is confirmed as bisexual LI, NOT race-gated.  THat's a game-changer.

 

I'm thinking, since he isn't race-gated and I don't think they'd race-gate straight or homosexual LIs, the final male will be Varric.

 

Kind of disappointed, I'd prefer a new character.  Would prefer Solas.  But, eh, Varric isn't horrible at all.



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Iron Bull is confirmed as bisexual LI, NOT race-gated.  THat's a game-changer.

 

I'm thinking, since he isn't race-gated and I don't think they'd race-gate straight or homosexual LIs, the final male will be Varric.

 

Kind of disappointed, I'd prefer a new character.  Would prefer Solas.  But, eh, Varric isn't horrible at all.

 

We still don't have confirmation on Cassandra/Cullen/Sera/Dorian's racial preferences.

 

I'm not sure about Varric. I cannot see him being bisexual. We are supposed to be given more romance options than in any previous dragon age game. That puts us at 6 options for each gender, since we had up to 5. 

 

Varric would have to be bisexual for it to be more than five and Vivi would also have to be bisexual, which I assume she will be. Varric has always struck me as hetero. 

 

Males

1.     Cassandra

2.     Josephine

3.     Iron bull

4.     Dorian

 

Females

1.     Cullen

2.     Josephine

3.     Iron bull

4.     Sera

 

We have left: Solas, Varric, Vivi, or Blackwall.

 

My prediction is Blackwall isn't an option. If he ends up being an option, I will be surprised. Congrats to BW fans of course, but I will still be surprised.

 

I am 99% sure the next female LI who is bisexual and racegated to humans is - lol - obviously Vivi. She's the only female left. So that would turn the list into:

 

 

Males

1.     Cassandra

2.     Josephine

3.     Iron bull

4.     Dorian

5.     Vivi (humans)

 

Females

1.     Cullen

2.     Josephine

3.     Iron bull

4.     Sera

5.     Vivi (humans)

 

But there's one romance left and it needs to max out at 6 options per gender. For it to be Varric, he'd have to be bi. I do not believe he is bisexual. IF they make him bisexual, I will be surprised. And congrats to Varric fans of course - same as the Blackwall curve ball - but he just doesn't seem bisexual...

 

So I assume Solas will be bisexual and racegated to elves. That's my prediction. Hey, I could be wrong and no harm done. But for it to be "more options than any previous game" then each gender needs 6 and the final two need to be bisexual. 

 

Remember... in Dragon Age 2 we had: 

 

1. Anders

2. Fenris

3. Isabela

4. Merrill

5. Sebastian (females)

6. Tallis - sorta. Not a party member. 

 

Women had 5 and a half options (Tallis is seriously a half, lol.) Men had 4 and a half options. Either way, not really a full 6. They are race-gating this time around to give us that full integer (vs. Tallis who was a fleeting kiss at best) - but you're gonna have to be a specific race to enjoy it. 

 

So I predict this:

 

Males

1.     Cassandra

2.     Josephine

3.     Iron bull

4.     Dorian

5.     Vivi (humans)

6.     Solas (elves)

 

Females

1.     Cullen

2.     Josephine

3.     Iron bull

4.     Sera

5.     Vivi (humans)

6.     Solas (elves)
 
 
I could be wrong! They might just go with:
 

Males

1.     Cassandra

2.     Josephine

3.     Iron bull

4.     Dorian

5.     Vivienne - humans

 

Females

1.     Cullen

2.     Josephine

3.     Iron bull

4.     Sera

5.     Varric - dwarves

 

But that's ^^^ not really "more romances than in any previous DA game." Thus - false advertising Bioware. Which happens. 

 

Time will tell. 



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also TOTALLY unrelated but does anyone know how to edit the topic's title?