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Those of you who like Sera now... You might want to do things differently than the demo.


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I don't consider spirits doing it a true resurrection but yeah. Can keep someone going if a spirit keeps them going. I can see where your going, that and the eluvian mirrors are odd exceptions. So yeah, it's possible, no doubt they can come up with some kind of reason for it.

 

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Also, how can it be the prolog if it's a side thing some players may never see?


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I don't consider spirits doing it a true resurrection but yeah. Can keep someone going if a spirit keeps them going. I can see where your going, that and the eluvian mirrors are odd exceptions. So yeah, it's possible, no doubt they can come up with some kind of reason for it.

 

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Also, how can it be the prolog if it's a side thing some players may never see?

Which why magic is not an issue of what but of how. Which is my point.

 

And Wynne's Resurrection and the mirrors are not side things. You're told about them in DAO. Dreamers abilities are hinted at in da2 andthe concept of remaking the world with magic is tied to the story of the magisters that tried to get to the golden city. Heck, we seen the fade warping reality from DA:O.



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I realize you didn't read it that way but im agreeing with you so im not... arguing anymore about agreeing with you.



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From what i see in this thread, i assume Cole's purpose in the story of DAI is to fix "wrong" outcomes by reviving certain characters if they have died during the story?

I probobly just come too far with assumptions, but my logic never failed me before.

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That would be interesting but for the 2 examples we have of that involves a spirit sacrificing its own existence to do that, and it has to be at the time of there 'death'. Which, as far as im concerned, they're not really dead yet. It's kinda like when a doctor saves someone from 'death'. You know "he was dead for 5 whole seconds!' but gets revived. Certain point of no return and then its just a spirit possessing a corpse.

 

Maybe Cole figures out away to broker a deal between other spirits for people who don't wish to die? That I could see, would make some sense.



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I realize you didn't read it that way but im agreeing with you so im not... arguing anymore about agreeing with you.

 I know you are agreeing. My argument is that these concepts are with in the main games and not just in other media of it.



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I didn't say it was in other media, like I said, not arguing that. Never was, never will. Not sure why you are.



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It's okay. A romance-scene is still viable 3 hours after the death of a partner. But from thereon it's a one chick show. Don't want to wait more than that, then things get a bit stiff.



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It's okay. A romance-scene is still viable 3 hours after the death of a partner. But from thereon it's a one chick show. Don't want to wait more than that, then things get a bit stiff.

...Unless your a necromancer.

 

 

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looking whole that demo , I didnt noticed any major sera dialogue talks aside from banter...So I guess in her spot is random companion can be input...well looking at Iron Bull , I think random Rogue companion or mage.



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I really, really hope it's not time-travel. I've never seen a story improved by adding it in. It creates way too much plot holes.


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...Unless your a necromancer.

 

 

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I really, really hope it's not time-travel. I've never seen a story improved by adding it in. It creates way too much plot holes.

 

Chrono Trigger apparently hits the nail on the head.

 

But in other cases, yeah, you're right.


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#239
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Yeah, Chrono Trigger had a fun and interesting way of handling it but it was also the entire premise of the whole story. Legacy of Kain series actually involved time travel quite extensively. Soul Reaver 2 delt with it a lot, as did the later games. I mean Soul Reaver him self was a character fused with the essence of a specific weapon. And through time travel, at the end of it, he was using him... self. It was weird, but an awesome moment.

 

Then you also had the odd bit of Kain using The Reaver in later games and how they tied together and... I miss that series. Would love a reboot.


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I guess she should have let Iron Bull throw her after all.  "Think of the mayhem, Sera!  MAYHEM!"



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Yeah, Chrono Trigger had a fun and interesting way of handling it but it was also the entire premise of the whole story. Legacy of Kain series actually involved time travel quite extensively. Soul Reaver 2 delt with it a lot, as did the later games. I mean Soul Reaver him self was a character fused with the essence of a specific weapon. And through time travel, at the end of it, he was using him... self. It was weird, but an awesome moment.

 

Then you also had the odd bit of Kain using The Reaver in later games and how they tied together and... I miss that series. Would love a reboot.

 

Never played Chrono Trigger *ducks rotten fruits being thrown*.

 

I kinda see about Legacy of Kain, but I still think the otherwise strong writing and voice acting carried the flaw away. They could could have found a way to make that story without time travel I think, albeit yes in that case it hasn't ruined the plot.

 

Still, it's an exception. When time travel is the entire premise, sometimes it gets it sorta right, or doesn't take itself too seriously (Back to the Future). But when it's just one element added to a story, the writers then have to contrive all sorts of nonsense as to why it's not used to solve every problem in the story. When they actually don't just leave unexplained why such an incredible power is not used (cough Harry Potter cough). So yeah, I tend to hate stories about time-travel or it's bastard child, alternate realities. Yes that means I didn't like Bioshock Infinite's story.



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I guess she should have let Iron Bull throw her after all.  "Think of the mayhem, Sera!  MAYHEM!"

Too soon, too soon.
 

I'm also willing to believe that she actually died and then something happens that makes everything better, like rewinding time. Also the real question is where the hell is Bull in all this?



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Too soon, too soon.
 

I'm also willing to believe that she actually died and then something happens that makes everything better, like rewinding time. Also the real question is where the hell is Bull in all this?

 

Well, FPJ did mention in his interview that Iron Bull is scared of demons...  so maybe he ran away screaming?  :P



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@Giantdeathrobot: Yeah that's basically my feeling towards it. It works in Chrono and Kain series because, ultimately, its the main thing. It's literally the whole story is based off it. If this is just a side piece, and it's the only time 'time travel' is used to fix things that can make things weird. I think it could still work, mind you, a good story is a good story, time travel or otherwise. But the past shows its just more prone to have weird fail issues if it's not the entire plot point.

 

So yeah, who knows, personally I hope it's not. I personally hope I'm right about them being pulled mentally into the Fade like we've seen happen before multiple times. But I also kinda hope im wrong and it's something I don't see coming (with out being a crappy gotcha gimic twist - really hate those). Either way excited to see how the whole game unfolds :D



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From what i see in this thread, i assume Cole's purpose in the story of DAI is to fix "wrong" outcomes by reviving certain characters if they have died during the story?

I probobly just come too far with assumptions, but my logic never failed me before.

 

Is this because of my post? :P



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I have to say she's dead. The reasons being is 1. She's pretty bloody 2. Her eyes are open (could be a glitch) 3. Don't see why they would keep her alive at this point and 4. I feel like they skipped an entire seen after sera and bull leave. The scene jump looked unnatural as if saying "hey something just happened but u don't get to see just yet"

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I have to say she's dead. The reasons being is 1. She's pretty bloody 2. Her eyes are open (could be a glitch) 3. Don't see why they would keep her alive at this point and 4. I feel like they skipped an entire seen after sera and bull leave. The scene jump looked unnatural as if saying "hey something just happened but u don't get to see just yet"

 

How can you say you "Don't see why they would keep her alive at this point." when you don't know what point it's at?


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IMHO Sera is dead, IB is dead and Leliana is about to die.

The reason is because that rift Dorian creates isn't a rift into the fade. It is a time portal.

That is why the characters are all talking as if the battle had already happened, "this is how they won, this is how it won" and Alexias keeps mentioning that how it is too late and you can't change the past. Similar dialogue to other media with time travel elements.

This also explains why the breach outside is so large(they want to go back in time to where it is more manageabke ), why the rift Dorian created is so different looking from the other rifts(it actually looks like a wormhole), and the uniqueness and interest of the amulet and spell.

 

This.

After killing Alexius one dialogue option is "we can still help him". How, if he's dead? Consider Sera's comments, the other dialogue and portal scene all suggest we're going to be changing the outcome we've just witnessed. It maybe time travel or some other reality changing Mcguffin but I don't expect these 'deaths' to stick.


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#249
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...Unless your a necromancer.

 

 

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#250
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Time travel. Showing up whenever it's convenient for... forever.