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[Maurader Sackboy]

Console player here (PS3). I tend to play cautiously -- in team games it seems like I revive a lot more than I die. I've only solo'd gold 4 times and they all took longer than an hour. I'm in awe of those players who can solo gold & plat in 30/40 minutes (or less)!

My 'slowness' translates into average scores in team games. Guess all this is o.k. but thought I'd ask if anyone had generic tips on speeding the killing?  

Might be that I just have to practice soloing more?  What do people think?
 

[Excella Gionne]

PC players can solo the fastest if all of their objectives are modded to Pizza delivery only. To actually speedrun, you'll need to missile on specific waves. I'm no speed-runner, and so, someone might come along to give you the details for each faction. 

[TheNightSlasher]

A few basic stuff (for soloing):

 

1. Target priority: Focus on enemies with high budget to TTK ratio. Leave the banshees, atlases and other bullet sponges alone. Ravagers, dragoons, phantoms, rocket troopers, abombs, hunters go down fairly easily and deplete wave budget pretty fast.

 

2. Hold the line: Don't kite/relocate unless you get overwhelmed. Try to use atlases, brutes, scions, primes as BE/tech combo targets to cause collateral damage. Mooks surrounding them die fairly fast this way, and lets you hold a certain spot for longer. Knowing the weak points of bosses help (atlas - shoulder, knee and crotch plates; praetorian's 'mouth', scion's sac and head) as you can repeatedly stagger bosses to prevent them from advancing on you. This takes some practice.

 

3. Use ladders to block the path of a brute, atlas, prime etc. This will give you some additional time to focus on mooks and other high budget/TTK enemies. You can also use some ledges, cut corners across the map and slow down the boss enemies' approach.

 

4. Clever use of game mechanics: Pizza running, hack glitching, doing devices from the other side of the wall etc. Some disapprove of these but I don't care. Doing this properly adds a lot of time to the solo. If you don't care too, go for it or else, do it the proper way. But try to stay within the hack circle or escort circle as best as you can. Use an ops or two to stay alive without having to kite.

 

1,2 and 3 apply to team games as well. I leave bullet sponges alone for the most part, and take care of them towards the end of a wave. 2 is easier in a team game because you have less aggro on you. As for 4, I don't glitch hacks in team games - it's unnecessary. I do run with the pizza though.

 

Not sure what else to add.

 

Edit: An exception to 1 can be made in team games if your team mates have boss killing powers/weapons. Then you can join them and focus fire on bosses to melt their armor.

[Maurader Sackboy]

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2. Hold the line: Don't kite/relocate unless you get overwhelmed. ...  you can repeatedly stagger bosses to prevent them from advancing on you. ...

 

Your tip #2 is interesting as I tend to re-position myself a lot to get more favorable positions.  Will have to try holding a bit more.  I do leave bosses for last but find myself running away from the chasers (banshees & praetorians) a lot in order to do this.  Seems like if you kill bosses early in the wave they just re-spawn & ain't nobody got time for that.

[TheNightSlasher]

Your tip #2 is interesting as I tend to re-position myself a lot to get more favorable positions.  Will have to try holding a bit more.  I do leave bosses for last but find myself running away from the chasers (banshees & praetorians) a lot in order to do this.  Seems like if you kill bosses early in the wave they just re-spawn & ain't nobody got time for that.

Banshees are a nuisance. A hard-hitting weapon (claymore, wraith, javelin, BW, arc pistol etc) can quickly stop their teleporting. Otherwise power combos (esp. biotics) are good at stopping them. DoT powers like incinerate, DC are good too. 

 

Praetorians can be chain-staggered by headshotting. Since they have huge 'heads', this can be done relatively easily. Do take hard cover when they lazer though.

[HardcoreSalmon]

I suck at going fast on gold but I'm ok at doing it on platinum.

 

My tips for platinum:

 

-Fight Cerberus, dragoons and phantoms clear the spawn budget quickly.

 

-Pick a small map like glacier, you don't need to do glacier and the objectives can be horrible but it helps.

 

-Bring Armored Compartments and rocket waves 5, 8, 9 and after wave 10.

 

-Quit if you get bad objectives (Targets and devices)

 

-Don't be cautious, you can't be scared of dying or you won't get the best possible time.

[bondiboy]

I suck at going fast on gold but I'm ok at doing it on platinum.

 

My tips for platinum:

 

-Fight Cerberus, dragoons and phantoms clear the spawn budget quickly.

 

-Pick a small map like glacier, you don't need to do glacier and the objectives can be horrible but it helps.

 

-Bring Armored Compartments and rocket waves 5, 8, 9 and after wave 10.

 

-Quit if you get bad objectives (Targets and devices)

 

-Don't be cautious, you can't be scared of dying or you won't get the best possible time.

 

Why after wave 10 ? Do you mean keep missiles in case you get into trouble on extraction wave ?

[Deerber]

Why after wave 10 ? Do you mean keep missiles in case you get into trouble on extraction wave ?

 

Nah I'm pretty sure he meant after wave 10 objective, as clean up.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

Why after wave 10 ? Do you mean keep missiles in case you get into trouble on extraction wave ?

To clean up after the objective is completed.

Those tips mostly apply to Gold too, except Targets aren't a meta-breaking objective imo. They're just not preferable.

[Deerber]

To clean up after the objective is completed.

Those tips mostly apply to Gold too, except Targets aren't a meta-breaking objective imo. They're just not preferable.

 

Well, depends on what you're soloing, really. With some character/map/enemy combos targets can be a real pita, even on gold.

[Schachmatt123]

Why after wave 10 ? Do you mean keep missiles in case you get into trouble on extraction wave ?

 

He means to use a clean up rocket after the wave 10 objective.

 

 

As for 4, I don't glitch hacks in team games - it's unnecessary.

 

Actually this glitch is glitched in a team game. Yes, you are listed as doing the hack and the bar progresses pretty fast, but then it get's stuck before the hack is finally finished. Another hint that it's not properly working is the "halfway through" message from the pilot playing while the bar would indicate the job's almost done.

[DaryAlexV]

Best kill speeding tip. 

 

http://kalence.drupa...24O53364!A.09GG

 

For lazy players -> Shoot -> throw grenades -> take a nap -> wave complete 

 

Reapers gold solo ~ 20-25 min. (objective dependent)

Collectors ~ 25-30 min. (objective and map dependent   (Jade devices..... ><))

[Maurader Sackboy]

Banshees are a nuisance. A hard-hitting weapon (claymore, wraith, javelin, BW, arc pistol etc) can quickly stop their teleporting.  ... 

 

@NightSlasher (thanks for your thoughtful replies, btw) -- Would you place the talon pistol in the same category as the ones you listed?  It's one of my favorites (no having to scope or charge, 4 shots)?  When you arc pistol, do you:  charge every shot; run around with it charged?  I love that it's like a mini-sniper with no hipfire penalty but that charge mechanic ...

 

I suck at going fast on gold but I'm ok at doing it on platinum.

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-Don't be cautious, you can't be scared of dying or you won't get the best possible time.

 

@Softcore -- do you mean to say you solo plat faster than gold !?  Hard to believe, given the number of bosses to kill. 

Also, I'm not trying for any records, just more reasonable times (say, sub 40 min. on gold).  Guess I'll have to try throwing caution to the wind, too.

[Darth Volus]

Git gud or get rekt

[Loufi]

@NightSlasher (thanks for your thoughtful replies, btw) -- Would you place the talon pistol in the same category as the ones you listed?  It's one of my favorites (no having to scope or charge, 4 shots)?  When you arc pistol, do you:  charge every shot; run around with it charged?  I love that it's like a mini-sniper with no hipfire penalty but that charge mechanic ...

 

 

@Softcore -- do you mean to say you solo plat faster than gold !?  Hard to believe, given the number of bosses to kill. 

Also, I'm not trying for any records, just more reasonable times (say, sub 40 min. on gold).  Guess I'll have to try throwing caution to the wind, too.

I think he means that, compared to other players, he can get good times in plat solos (sub 40 I would say) but not in gold solos (sub 20, maybe sub 25).

 

About the Talon pistol, given notably its damage bonus against shields and barriers, I think it can stop Banshees pretty quickly, especially if you equip ammo with a bonus against those defenses.

[Chealec]

TBH not dying is probably the best way to rack up score (unless you pretty much insta-gel whenever downed *ahem*) as you're not scoring when you're dirtnappin'!

 

I've only solo'd gold a couple of times (never platinum) and I play completely differently to how I would in U/U/G team-games. In a solo I'm cautious, take to cover, kite bosses around the map, watch out for sneaky Ravagers at long range or Hunters or whatever... in U/U/G team games, yeah, I barely even worry about dying just run around like a lunatic punching/shooting/exploderising everything I come across.

 

About the only commonality between my playstyles, solo or team game, is that I generally leave Banshees till last... cheap-arsed-space-zombie-strippers that they are.

[NuclearTech76]

@NightSlasher (thanks for your thoughtful replies, btw) -- Would you place the talon pistol in the same category as the ones you listed?  It's one of my favorites (no having to scope or charge, 4 shots)?  When you arc pistol, do you:  charge every shot; run around with it charged?  I love that it's like a mini-sniper with no hipfire penalty but that charge mechanic ...

 

 

@Softcore -- do you mean to say you solo plat faster than gold !?  Hard to believe, given the number of bosses to kill. 

Also, I'm not trying for any records, just more reasonable times (say, sub 40 min. on gold).  Guess I'll have to try throwing caution to the wind, too.

Spawns spread faster on Gold on most waves. Not to mention some waves on Platinum have enemies that account for a higher budget number. 

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

Essentially you have to focus on enemies that are kinda high on the enemy tier scale but not bullet sponges like bosses. If you're facing collectors for example, Captains, Troopers, and Abombs are quick kills that can deplete the budget quickly. If you do face reapers, the damage threshold for the banshee to stop teleporting is significantly lower than it would be on a team game. A cloaked hipfire shot from a GI Javelin can stop a Banshee with full barriers no matter where she's hit on gold. Granted I did have phasics on at the time when I did it so that might be one factor. I am also not a fast soloer as well but I do get some decent times if the enemy combo, character and weapons are right. Like on Glacier, I almost had a sub-30 Warlord-Geth game. My fastest gold solo yet. It was a themed challenge, kinda gave up on getting a sub 30 for now until I get a decent amount of preferred consumables.

 

Anyway, enemy prioritization, luck with objectives, and enemy spawn head knowledge is the name of the game when soloing. Also hope to christ that R2 Detour doesn't fall through the map. If you do get R2 Detour as an objective, use hard cover as much as possible unless getting chased by banshees or sniped by primes then by all means, nuke the crap out of them as they deserve it (that is if you have any missiles to spare). If I have a missile or two left over at the end of wave 10 and the objective is done, I usually seek out the big boys and take care of them with the nukes.

[megabeast37215]

Shoot things in the head. It really helps. I know that sounds kind of.. obvious, but that one fundamental tactic is quite a difference maker. The other one is AOE offense. Anytime you can affect/kill more than one enemy, your game is going to go faster.

Other than that.. there isn't really too many ways to kill faster. You can only shoot/cast powers so fast because of set ROF/reload speed/cooldowns. Maximizing damage through headshots and maximizing targets affected through AOE offense is about it really.

[NuclearTech76]

The most important tip I can give you is fail, fail, fail. If you want to go fast you're going to fail on some runs, you get shitty respawns, objectives, annoying BS, etc. Learn the budgets and what your kit can deal with fast which depletes the budget quickly. IE if you can kill phantoms quick they are a high budget enemy, dragoons are the same, abominations are also relatively high budget wise for the TTK on them. 

[Maurader Sackboy]

Shoot things in the head. It really helps. I know that sounds kind of.. obvious, but that one fundamental tactic is quite a difference maker. ...

 

Ah, the truth about my scrubbiness:  I rarely get even a 5 headshot medal, even with: speccing for headshot damage, using a Targeting VI, & sniper rifles (Reegar & Harrier seem to give me more accidental headshots).  Maybe I'm too spastic or old?  Will focus on working on this.

[cato potato]

I think he means that, compared to other players, he can get good times in plat solos (sub 40 I would say) but not in gold solos (sub 20, maybe sub 25).
 
About the Talon pistol, given notably its damage bonus against shields and barriers, I think it can stop Banshees pretty quickly, especially if you equip ammo with a bonus against those defenses.

I agree with on the Talon stopping Banshees, especially because it takes less damage to halt them in solos than it does in team games.

OT: You've already got a lot of great information from some of the best players/soloers so all I can add is - practice. Keep trying and success will eventually seem quite routine, then you can focus even more on TNS's tips to go faster.

[Deerber]

Ah, the truth about my scrubbiness:  I rarely get even a 5 headshot medal, even with: speccing for headshot damage, using a Targeting VI, & sniper rifles (Reegar & Harrier seem to give me more accidental headshots).  Maybe I'm too spastic or old?  Will focus on working on this.

 

Yeah, if you only get 5 headshots medal then it sounds like you should really work to improve that. Mind you, it's not going to be the single thing that affects your time the most... Most things Slasher mentioned are more important, from that point of view. But once you get those things under your belt, headshots are going to matter.

 

That said don't worry, just applying to it will make you improve tenfold. That's how it worked for me at least, I improved the most by basically jsut starting to try and get headshots.

[Ribosome]

There are 4 gears in solos: geth scanner, armored compartments, assault loadout, and grenade capacity

Glacier is definitely the best map for fast clear times. White is damned good too. RNG is going to play its role in clear times as well. Pizza and easily switchable targets are the best. Hacks and devices are the worst. I don't know about gold, but on platinum I always missile spawns containing whatever I can't take down rapidly depending on the kit.

Not much else to add that hasnt already been said. Takes less time to kill a few pyros than a prime, etc.

Some of the youtube guides are tremendously helpful. Worth a look.