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[TheLostwhisperer]

So as we know, if our inquisitor is an Elf they are Dalish. But does anyone know what clan they will be from? We know the (named) Sabrae Clan (the Dalish Warden's Clan) Alerion Clan (Merrill' birth Clan) Ralaferin Clan (Gisharel's Clan) Virnehn Clan (Thelhen's Clan) We also have (unnamed) Velanna's clan. Yevven's clan. Zathrian's clan. Ariane's clan. Clan that found young Loghain and Maric in Korcari Wilds. Or we might have a new clan altogether

[adorkable-panda]

I'm hoping for a new clan too. I'm more curious if the clan's accent's will adjust to the Quizzy's voice. Maybe they'll have some backstory where the quizzy was actually from some other clan which could explaint he discrepency in the accents. 

[TK514]

Will they survive long enough to matter? They, potentially, don't have the greatest track record with Keepers or surviving the last decade or so. Their Keeper will repeatedly drag them back to werewolf infested forests where they'll get eaten, or they'll stupidly attack the Inquisitor's party for no good reason, or they'll summon a greater demon, irritate it, and then leave it lying around for a random do-gooder to set free, etc etc.

Still, there has to be at least one clan out there not frolicking towards extinction. Maybe this will be that one. I'm, personally, interested to see what position a Dalish Mage holds in the Clan, since I believe it was confirmed they aren't the Keeper. And, of course, what happens to the clan that frees the Inquisitor from any clan obligations. Are they another Pariah, like Merrill? Or maybe, and this would be a nice change, the Clan recognizes that the Tear is a threat to the world and they give the Inquisitor leave to go.

[Mistic]

Apart from which clan it may be, there should be a reason for a Dalish caln to be there at all. I mean, they could be like Ariane's clan and have some important ancient elven texts about the Fade or something like that (hey, it could be Ariane's clan itself for all we know).

 

Still, there has to be at least one clan out there not frolicking towards extinction. Maybe this will be that one. I'm, personally, interested to see what position a Dalish Mage holds in the Clan, since I believe it was confirmed they aren't the Keeper. And, of course, what happens to the clan that frees the Inquisitor from any clan obligations. Are they another Pariah, like Merrill? Or maybe, and this would be a nice change, the Clan recognizes that the Tear is a threat to the world and they give the Inquisitor leave to go.

 

As you said, given their track record, one of the most popular guesses so far is that the whole clan will blow up with the rest of the conference. It would be a quick way to give the Dalish Inquisitor a driving motivation for the game ("Hello. My name is Lavellan. You killed my clan. Prepare to die.") and to free them from any obligation to the clan that could hinder them or cause unwelcome suspension of disbelief.

[LobselVith8]

I hope we get a new clan altogether.

It would be good to get a new clan, one with more depth and characterization than the one-dimensional caricatures from "The Masked Empire". Clan Virnehn was simply ridiculous, and existed simply as a plot device for the Eluvians.

I'd like to see a new clan as the windows into the myriad of viewpoints held by the Dalish, into their cultural perception of the Beyond and their view that all spirits are dangerous, into the religious stories of the Creators and the Forgotten Ones, and into the clashing historical perspectives - like the varying point of view about who started the war between elves and humans that lead to an Exalted March against the Dales.

Having the clan not perish in some asinine way would also be preferable. It's becoming ridiculous at this point. The elven protagonist doesn't need the clan to perish to be motivated to stop a crisis that threatens the entire world.

[Xilizhra]

Will they survive long enough to matter? They, potentially, don't have the greatest track record with Keepers or surviving the last decade or so. Their Keeper will repeatedly drag them back to werewolf infested forests where they'll get eaten, or they'll stupidly attack the Inquisitor's party for no good reason, or they'll summon a greater demon, irritate it, and then leave it lying around for a random do-gooder to set free, etc etc.

Still, there has to be at least one clan out there not frolicking towards extinction. Maybe this will be that one. I'm, personally, interested to see what position a Dalish Mage holds in the Clan, since I believe it was confirmed they aren't the Keeper. And, of course, what happens to the clan that frees the Inquisitor from any clan obligations. Are they another Pariah, like Merrill? Or maybe, and this would be a nice change, the Clan recognizes that the Tear is a threat to the world and they give the Inquisitor leave to go.

A change, that just happens to be identical to the Dalish doing the same thing with the Blight?

 

 

It would be good to get a new clan, one with more depth and characterization than the one-dimensional caricatures from "The Masked Empire". Clan Virnehn was simply ridiculous, and existed simply as a plot device for the Eluvians.

I'd like to see a new clan as the windows into the myriad of viewpoints held by the Dalish, into their cultural perception of the Beyond and their view that all spirits are dangerous, into the religious stories of the Creators and the Forgotten Ones, and into the clashing historical perspectives - like the varying point of view about who started the war between elves and humans that lead to an Exalted March against the Dales.

Having the clan not perish in some asinine way would also be preferable. It's becoming ridiculous at this point. The elven protagonist doesn't need the clan to perish to be motivated to stop a crisis that threatens the entire world.

I'll go for this, for the most part, though I don't necessarily care about being part of a new clan so much as it not dying.

[MisterJB]

It will have to be a new clan considering how every other that appeared in the series is, potentially, dead.

[Xilizhra]

It will have to be a new clan considering how every other that appeared in the series is, potentially, dead.

So was Leliana, once.

[Solas]

i think it'll be a new one. can't wait til we learn the clan name

[Solas]

i think it'll be a new one. can't wait til we learn the clan name

[RedWulfi]

I assume a new clan, and probably as a keeper/first.

[BlueMagitek]

You could potentially be from, what's her name, Velenna's Clan?  The one with the not completely insane Keeper.

 

The rest could be dead or werewolves.

[Mistic]

Having the clan not perish in some asinine way would also be preferable. It's becoming ridiculous at this point. The elven protagonist doesn't need the clan to perish to be motivated to stop a crisis that threatens the entire world.

 

That would be welcome. It's becoming a (tragic) running gag that a clan has to die. Well, not exactly that, the player always has an option plus what happened in TME. It's a trend, and not even the first one. The Dalish are obvious, but let's not forget that every game offers the possibility to purge a Circle, plus the Annulment in Rivain told in Asunder. Bioware likes to be a bit sadistic.

 

It will have to be a new clan considering how every other that appeared in the series is, potentially, dead.

 

Well, not everyone. Velanna's clan and Ariane's clan are supposed to be safe and sound. Ok, we met only a handful of their members (one in the later's case), but still.

[MisterJB]

So was Leliana, once.

Yeah, sure. Let's have a whole clan come back from the dead.

"The Creators weren't done with us yet."

 

Seriously, one person being wounded but not fatally and the PC failing to notice that; especially when it happens in a place with miraculous properties; is one thing. For Hawke to fail to kill dozens of elves is stupid. And then there's Zathrian's clan where many members were turned into werewolves to help with the final battle and the Virnehn elves were flayed and burned alive from the inside out by Ishmael. They're not coming back.

 

I'm just stating a fact. Since all of the clans that have appeared in the series so far could be dead due to player actions, they'll have to write another clan if they want the Dalish to be in the game.

[A Clever Name]

I admit that I get tired of seeing Dalish clans in peril.  It's to the point where I would even prefer it if our Dalish Inquisitor was exiled for a (possibly) unstated reason, just so our clan doesn't get killed...it's a trope I'm afraid BioWare might continue, as it adds motivation, as Mistic pointed out.

 

As for what clan a Dalish PC would be from, I don't think it would be the Alerion clan, as Merrill's old clan wanders the hills of Nevarra.  She was traded to the Sabrae clan at an Arlathvhen.  I also have my doubts that it would be the Sabrae clan, given its possible fate in DAII - but who knows?  It may have been entirely overhauled for the sake of consistency.  For all we know, the Dalish clan could be mentioned to be the one that took in Aveline (the chevalier).  Which would be pretty interesting, come to think of it.  There aren't many clans we know of that would willingly take in a human baby and raise him/her as their own.

 

I would be okay with even being a member of Zathrian's clan, but there are too many variables - was the clan killed?  Is Zathrian still the Keeper, or did Lanaya take over?  That's why I believe it more likely it will be a clan we have little to no information on (such as the Ralaferin clan), or an entirely new clan.

[Xilizhra]

Yeah, sure. Let's have a whole clan come back from the dead.

"The Creators weren't done with us yet."

 

Seriously, one person being wounded but not fatally and the PC failing to notice that; especially when it happens in a place with miraculous properties; is one thing. For Hawke to fail to kill dozens of elves is stupid. And then there's Zathrian's clan where many members were turned into werewolves to help with the final battle and the Virnehn elves were flayed and burned alive from the inside out by Ishmael. They're not coming back.

 

I'm just stating a fact. Since all of the clans that have appeared in the series so far could be dead due to player actions, they'll have to write another clan if they want the Dalish to be in the game.

There's still Velanna's clan, and Ariane's.

 

Also, the odds of the entire Sabrae clan being killed are extremely low; I seriously doubt all of their, for instance, children and those responsible for their care would launch a suicide attack, especially since we saw nothing of the kind.

 

As for Zathrian's clan, any decision to wipe them out would be the kind of thing that'd be well-retconned, if need be.

[Mistic]

Since all of the clans that have appeared in the series so far could be dead due to player actions, they'll have to write another clan if they want the Dalish to be in the game.

 

Nobody remembers Velanna's or Ariane's clan

 

As for Zathrian's clan, any decision to wipe them out would be the kind of thing that'd be well-retconned, if need be.

 

But you would have to retcon a lot. As in there were different quests in DAII depending on what happened to them.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Hopefully this time, the clan isn't full of brain-dead morons like DA2.

[Xilizhra]

But you would have to retcon a lot. As in there were different quests in DAII depending on what happened to them.

Only one very minor quest that wasn't even in the log.

[Wolfen09]

um arent the only survivors from velana's clan velana and her sister?  Didnt the darkspawn kill the rest?  i wouldnt mind seeing a new clan, maybe the one fellessan was ousted from, or maybe a survivor from the clan in TME.

[MisterJB]

There's still Velanna's clan, and Ariane's.

 

Also, the odds of the entire Sabrae clan being killed are extremely low; I seriously doubt all of their, for instance, children and those responsible for their care would launch a suicide attack, especially since we saw nothing of the kind.

Anymore than we see dwarven children in Orzammar. Maybe there aren't any either.

Even if they had survived, they'd either fall prey to predators or be absorbed by another clan which would also destroy the Sabrae.

 

 

As for Zathrian's clan, any decision to wipe them out would be the kind of thing that'd be well-retconned, if need be.

If there's a decision that I don't like, I hope the writers retcon it and ruin everyone else's fun.

[Wulfram]

If they really wanted to use a potentially destroyed clan from previous games, they could say that some of the clan ran away and survived.  Logically that's the sort of thing that would happen.

[Xilizhra]

Anymore than we see dwarven children in Orzammar. Maybe there aren't any either.

Even if they had survived, they'd either fall prey to predators or be absorbed by another clan which would also destroy the Sabrae.

Gorny of you, but I suppose the Sabrae weren't going to be important later on regardless.

 

 

If there's a decision that I don't like, I hope the writers retcon it and ruin everyone else's fun.

If nothing else, we should see Lanaya leading the clan in the Hinterlands if the Dalish boon was chosen. Along with Ashalle.