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#226
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Patently false since every other nation has actually fought Darkspawn.

 

You just said that it's the Dales failing to help other nations is what makes them a liability, not fighting in their own borders. The Dales don't control whether the darkspawn attack them or not.


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You just said that it's the Dales failing to help other nations is what makes them a liability, not fighting in their own borders. The Dales don't control whether the darkspawn attack them or not.

Yet, whenever Orlais hasn't themselves been attacked, they've sent aid. Tevinter has always had to content with Darkspawn within their own borders every Blight. What makes the Dales a liability is their refusal to lend aid AND the threat they pose.

 

The Dales were perfectly happy sitting back and watching the world burn. It is only fair that the world sat back and watched as the Dales burned to the ground.



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In the Fourth Blight Tevinter and Orlais were attacked by only a few darkspawn. They were able to secure their borders easily. Afterward Tevinter sent no aid whatsoever. Meanwhile Orlais sent only "token aid," obviously not really any meaningful commitment or help to anyone.

 

And in the Third Blight both nations were again willing to let the rest of the world burn. The Grey Wardens were the ones that forced them to intervene and both of them used the opportunity to subjugate the nations they "liberated." That's worse than what the Dales did because not only did they allow the Free Marches to be ravaged by the Blight, they attacked it themselves afterward.

 

In comparing the Dales to the Imperium in the Second Blight the only difference is that the darkspawn attacked them. The Imperium let the Anderfels burn, even though it was actually part of their own territory at the time. The fact that the darkspawn attacked Minrathous and not Halamshiral doesn't actually say anything about the respective inhabitants of either place.

 

And that's still putting aside the very notion of collectively punishing a nation (decades after the fact) by burning it down, which again, is morally bankrupt.


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The Dales were perfectly happy sitting back and watching the world burn. It is only fair that the world sat back and watched as the Dales burned to the ground.

 

Ah, resentment, what a powerful motivator.

 

I don't agree with you that the Dales "deserved" to be destroyed just because people generations before them didn't help the Orlesians during the Blight. Yet it can't be denied that in-universe is something that is taken into consideration.

 

It's said that the Dales refusing to help led to bitter relationships with their neighbours that ended up in war. Even if it wasn't the main cause, it helped to fuel the flames of war. Tevinter and Orlesian blatant treason after the Third Blight sparked Marcher nationalism. It's also likely that Tevinter didn't help the rest of Thedas during the Fourth Blight because they had just suffered several Exalted Marches against them, so they weren't in a good mood. And modern Nevarra was born after Marchers and Wardens managed to defeat the Archdemon by themselves, without aid from the empires. Also, we know what happened to Loghain in DA:O.

 

But I insist, even if in-universe is an understandable feeling, it shouldn't be condoned, because people can learn. Tevinter defeated the First Blight, Orlais the Second, Tevinter and Orlais the Third, Marchers and Antivans the Fourth, Ferelden the Fifth. And the Dalish too learned the lesson and promised to help.

 

Truth be told, only the Orzammar Assembly didn't learn much from their mistakes. Well, maybe Bhelen was right after all.


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#230
Vumba the Wild Elf

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My clan is the Cy Hatta clan, formed in the union of Oriel the wise and merciful, and Vumba the savage elf. We roam the Northern Blighted Deserts and the edges of the Donarks, from where fake knife ears don't make it back. The men of the Anderfells are our b*tches.



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More important question; can we mercilessly slaughter them? It's tradition. 



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More important question; can we mercilessly slaughter them? It's tradition. 

:angry:

 

As for the original post, i do hope we get a new clan that is NOT completely wiped out in the beginning of the game. It's a tired joke allready.


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