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A change, that just happens to be identical to the Dalish doing the same thing with the Blight?


The Clan didn't let the Dalish Warden go because of the Blight. The Clan let Duncan take the Dalish Warden because the only other option was watching them die of the Taint.

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The Clan didn't let the Dalish Warden go because of the Blight. The Clan let Duncan take the Dalish Warden because the only other option was watching them die of the Taint.

The other clan also sends all its own warriors off to fight the Blight, just as soon as those warriors are capable of leaving without letting werewolves eat all the noncombatants.


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They got too many clans we know about, hope the elven Inquisitor is from one of those. Also, Merril has a clan other than her former one?



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They got too many clans we know about, hope the elven Inquisitor is from one of those. Also, Merril has a clan other than her former one?


Yes, Merrill was born into Clan Alerion, and she was brought over to the Sabrae Tribe to become Marethari's First due to her gift for magic.

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The other clan also sends all its own warriors off to fight the Blight, just as soon as those warriors are capable of leaving without letting werewolves eat all the noncombatants.

The other clan would be the other clan.



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The other clan would be the other clan.

The point being that it's not a change for the Dalish to fight world-destroying threats.


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The other clan also sends all its own warriors off to fight the Blight, just as soon as those warriors are capable of leaving without letting werewolves eat all the noncombatants.

 

Yes the werewolves that clans keeper created. Over all those years how many innocents including those of his own very clan have been harmed/killed.

 

One last thing. That they send warriors is not a fact it is only one of the possible options that can only take place if a outsider takes care of the a Dalish Keepers dirty little secret. Stop pretending its anything but that.
 



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Yes the werewolves that clans keeper created. Over all those years how many innocents including those of his own very clan have been harmed/killed.

 

One last thing. That they send warriors is not a fact it is only one of the possible options that can only take place if a outsider takes care of the a Dalish Keepers dirty little secret. Stop pretending its anything but that.
 

What does any of that have to do with the clan? Zathrian himself is the only elf who ever knew about it. And it is a fact that they send warriors unless you murder them all.


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probably a new one, who was on their way to the meeting of clans thingie fenris mentioned then poor, the sky blew up



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Personally I like the possibility of our pc,coming from the Ralaferin clan.
Mainly because keeper Ghisarel,contributed greatly into the preservation of elven lore by recording their traditions and beliefs.
Although,the idea of our inquisitor being from a new,unknown to us us also very intriguing.
The real question however,is whether we'll get to meet them in the game.Since we're not getting detailed origin stories,though the possibility to meet them later on is still there.

Another good question,is whether the clan survives the events of the prologue.

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Whatever the clan, my hope is it won't get completely destroyed... 


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What does any of that have to do with the clan? Zathrian himself is the only elf who ever knew about it. And it is a fact that they send warriors unless you murder them all.

 

Nothing to do with the clan at all. This is a Nomadic group focused on regaining their supposed immortality but hundreds of years ago a Keeper experiances and terrible personal tragedy and they stop moving. Hundreds of years latter he has outlived any of his clan and will not share that secret.

 

But hey this outsider comes along with a old piece of paper and fixes all their problems and only then do they want to help in fixing a problem that goes beyond if you have pointy ears or not.

 

lol @ murder another one of those words you use but don't know their meaning.



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Nothing to do with the clan at all. This is a Nomadic group focused on regaining their supposed immortality but hundreds of years ago a Keeper experiances and terrible personal tragedy and they stop moving. Hundreds of years latter he has outlived any of his clan and will not share that secret.

 

But hey this outsider comes along with a old piece of paper and fixes all their problems and only then do they want to help in fixing a problem that goes beyond if you have pointy ears or not.

 

lol @ murder another one of those words you use but don't know their meaning.

It's not that they stopped moving, it's that the werewolves attacked when his clan passed through again.

 

And it's not a matter of wanting to help fix it, but of being able to.


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Yeah I think Xil's right on this one. One of the other elves' of Zathrian's clan mentions that they moved around a lot but have a tradition of coming to the Brecillian Forest whenever they are in Ferelden.



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I hope we get a new clan altogether.

 

A new clan to get wiped out by the Breach  :devil:  :P



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Whatever the clan, my hope is it won't get completely destroyed... 

It's not an authentic Dragon Age experience unless you purge a Dalish clan.



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It's not an authentic Dragon Age experience unless you purge a Dalish clan.

We should be able to flip it and purge an Orlesian city in this game, I think. Shake up the formula.


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Yeah I think Xil's right on this one. One of the other elves' of Zathrian's clan mentions that they moved around a lot but have a tradition of coming to the Brecillian Forest whenever they are in Ferelden.

 

Do you mean that place of his personal tragedy?  Is it not odd a culture somewhat obsessed with reclaiming their supposed immortality never questions this Keeper who has lived for centuries and never shared the secret? No one questions why he has lived so long, why that is and that they keep going back to this place?

 

My issue comes down to how that one poster presents the situation that you either take the third (happily ever after everyone gets along) option or you side with the Zathrian not the clan and then you have to murder innocents to keep his crime a secret. If you take the other option you are a "murder" because you did not help a actual murder that has kept in place a curse that has done noting but harm innocents that had nothing to do with the original crime.



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Do you mean that place of his personal tragedy?  Is it not odd a culture somewhat obsessed with reclaiming their supposed immortality never questions this Keeper who has lived for centuries and never shared the secret? No one questions why he has lived so long, why that is and that they keep going back to this place?

 

My issue comes down to how that one poster presents the situation that you either take the third (happily ever after everyone gets along) option or you side with the Zathrian not the clan and then you have to murder innocents to keep his crime a secret. If you take the other option you are a "murder" because you did not help a actual murder that has kept in place a curse that has done noting but harm innocents that had nothing to do with the original crime.

His case was apparently not without precedent, being described as "unusual" rather than "unheard of." And there's no reason to think they didn't ask, and were either lied to or rebuffed.

 

And yes, you're a murderer if you kill all of the elves. While the werewolves were victims, they threw away their "innocent" status when they did the exact same thing Zathrian did, by attacking those who had nothing to do with the crime; other elves who weren't even born when the curse was laid. The werewolves are no better than Zathrian, all told.



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His case was apparently not without precedent, being described as "unusual" rather than "unheard of." And there's no reason to think they didn't ask, and were either lied to or rebuffed.

 

And yes, you're a murderer if you kill all of the elves. While the werewolves were victims, they threw away their "innocent" status when they did the exact same thing Zathrian did, by attacking those who had nothing to do with the crime; other elves who weren't even born when the curse was laid. The werewolves are no better than Zathrian, all told.

 

Unusual as in there is no other Dalish in all the other clans that has shared that life span of hundreds of years? Kind of odd given their culture of wanting to reclaim that lost immortality. Either the Dalish are stupid beyond belief or they are taught to never question a Keeper. A good Fascist philosophy.

 

And no in either cases of DA:O or DA2 you are not a murder. You are stuck defending yourself after helping to clean up their keepers mess. In neither case you do not seek out with the goal to kill these clans for personal gain.

 

And stop shifting blame Zathrian did the curse he is responsible for the harm it caused.



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The Clan didn't let the Dalish Warden go because of the Blight. The Clan let Duncan take the Dalish Warden because the only other option was watching them die of the Taint.

 

It was both. Marethari says that the Dalish can't outrun the Blight and that the Dalish are duty bound to honor their agreement to the Grey Wardens to stop it.


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Unusual as in there is no other Dalish in all the other clans that has shared that life span of hundreds of years? Kind of odd given their culture of wanting to reclaim that lost immortality. Either the Dalish are stupid beyond belief or they are taught to never question a Keeper. A good Fascist philosophy.

 

And no in either cases of DA:O or DA2 you are not a murder. You are stuck defending yourself after helping to clean up their keepers mess. In neither case you do not seek out with the goal to kill these clans for personal gain.

 

And stop shifting blame Zathrian did the curse he is responsible for the harm it caused.

You still have no reason to believe the clan didn't ask about it, and Zathrian was responsible for the condition of the werewolves, but he was not responsible for their attacking his clan (as that only happened after their minds had been restored by the Lady of the Forest, so the werewolves had free will again).



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Unusual as in there is no other Dalish in all the other clans that has shared that life span of hundreds of years? Kind of odd given their culture of wanting to reclaim that lost immortality. Either the Dalish are stupid beyond belief or they are taught to never question a Keeper. A good Fascist philosophy.

And no in either cases of DA:O or DA2 you are not a murder. You are stuck defending yourself after helping to clean up their keepers mess. In neither case you do not seek out with the goal to kill these clans for personal gain.

And stop shifting blame Zathrian did the curse he is responsible for the harm it caused.

In my opinion,Zathrian is the only one clearly responsible for the werewolf curse and therefore the attack,the game makes it obvious.

However,this thread is speculation about the potential background of the Dalish pc in Inquisition.
Not about how certain Dalish clans or the pc,handled certain situations,in the previous games.

Not to be rude,but this subject has been discussed countless times before ,as interesting as it is though,it has nothing to do with the OP.

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So was Leliana, once.

Yeah but thats one central character, not an entire clan of replaceable NPC's :L



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I wonder if we'll see more tattoos in Inquisition. So far, all Dalish share them, but maybe it's a clan or a regional thing. Merrill had unique ones in DAII, although it may be because she was a companion.

 

Also, I want to know if the blood writing represents gods or goddesses.

 

We should be able to flip it and purge an Orlesian city in this game, I think. Shake up the formula.

 

I blame DAII. So far, DA games were doing a great job in that regard too. Remember when you could leave Redcliffe village to die in DA:O? Or when you could set Amaranthine on fire in Awakening? But Hawke had to save Kirkwall, no matter what.