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A namedrop of Jade Empire fits here. The fantasy world is loosely based on chinese wuxia stories... so the entire cast (Save one joke character voiced by John Cleese) is asian. I've never heard anyone complain about a about a lack of ethnic diversity there.
Quite right. Quest for Glory 2 has an all arab cast. The third one has an all black cast. Nobody complained about those either (long time ago, though).
nro. x: Ironbull.
That character is a sidestep from DA2 cool lookin qunari into saturday morning cartoon mighty mouse. Tiny head, golem bodytype and horns like tree branches. I mean, what happened? Did Bio think that excessive body features = good visuals? I mean I´ve already seen the fawning over this character is the specific thread but I can´t wrap my head around the idea how people seem to be in awe with IB. I think it is a major step down from DA2 (I never believed I would say that).
ps. and yes, I know that DA2 qunari are a product of qunari cloning facility but that look was still miles ahead of this disfigured cartoon monster.
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The question is, if it was say Dorian hanging there, would he still look pristine?
If the answer is yes there is no problem, if the answer is no then there is a problem
If and it is a big IF that is how the scene play's out then IF there is any similar scenes in the entire game with a man in anything less than pristine condition, then we have a problem
The Witcher games doesn't take place in Europe.
They take place in a fictional Europe during the 13th century.
Its European fantasy world of no particular relation to Europe's real history timeline
They take place in a fictional Europe during the 13th century.
The world's technology and development is on par with the 13th century, yes. Doesn't mean they copied it and added magic. Elves and dwarves are races too. Plenty of those in the games.
nro. x: Ironbull.
That character is a sidestep from DA2 cool lookin qunari into saturday morning cartoon mighty mouse. Tiny head, golem bodytype and horns like tree branches. I mean, what happened? Did Bio think that excessive body features = good visuals? I mean I´ve already seen the fawning over this character is the specific thread but I can´t wrap my head around the idea how people seem to be in awe with IB. I think it is a major step down from DA2 (I never believed I would say that).
ps. and yes, I know that DA2 qunari are a product of qunari cloning facility but that look was still miles ahead of this disfigured cartoon monster.
Three words: "weird ass poison". Unlike Sten or the Arishok and his entourage, Iron Bull seems to talk like a human. Therefore, the game needs to use visuals to keep reminding you that the guy is a badass qunari. It's the bigger, texas-longhorn version of all those elven haircuts that are designed to prominently display their pointy ears.
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The lack of bare breasts was demoralising. Aside from that, it was pretty awesome.
Really? No one? No one at all? Because I'm pretty sure I thought both things were cool. Stop presuming you speak for other people.
Trust me mate, I would never presume to speak for you. I don't think that anything good will ever will come out of it.
Look up what "figure of speech" means
But I guess you know already cause then you type something like this
Because everyone is obsessing with it.
As far as the OP goes: I understand the concerns.
The fetch quest was jarring. No words of greeting are exchanged, you can see that the player just clicks the quest NPC, gets the entire infodump without any further interaction and accepts or declines. Even Skyrim's fetch quests had more dialogue than that.
I wonder whether the Leliana scene is a sign of things to come. Now I'm no big fan of explicit torture scenes, actually quite the opposite, but I'm getting this DA2-style "tell, don't show" whiff from it. You know how all of Kirkwall was supposed to be full of refugees, but when you actually walk in you're more likely to see a tumbleweed and hear a lone traveler in some side street play an Ennio Morricone tune on a hollow bone.
The dragon fight didn't bother me significantly more than the other combat. Though I wonder why a dragon that rather doesn't want to die doesn't just fly off, since you can't hit its wings anyway.
And yes, I know this is all in alpha, but you'd think that they picked one of the more complete areas for that, right? Yes, it might be more polished in the final product. But I wouldn't bet many euros on that.
Yeah we don't need to see breasts during any torture scenes involving a woman. It is titillation or I guess "t!tty-lation" 
I also don't want to see an entire torture cutscene. Just imply that the person was tortured through bruises, cuts, maybe limping. And if they're torturing a woman, I think it only makes sense that the torturer would at least make some sexual remarks, and maybe a little groping. But the best we can do is imply that those happened, or you could also not do them. That also works.
This is Dragon Age, not Witcher. The Witcher series is sort of "under the radar" when it comes to nudity and stuff like that, for some reason.
The dragon fight didn't bother me significantly more than the other combat. Though I wonder why a dragon that rather doesn't want to die doesn't just fly off, since you can't hit its wings anyway.
I will attack this argument from two angles. First the easiest: Games are designed to be fun, not frustrating. This is something a lot of hyper-difficulty people or AI-complainers fail to comprehend as well. The goal of the designer isn't to alienate, it's to engage. If the Dragon can flee, why doesn't it just leave the borders of the zone and never come back?
Second is a more interesting biological argument. The High Dragon is a Female, specifically an actively nesting female. You may have noticed with a keen eye that some of the smaller dragons killed are dragonlings, I don't think it's a far logical leap to say you've invaded this dragon's nest, and if you know anything about maternal instinct, you know animals (including humans) will defend their young with extreme and self-destructive prejudice.
And because I don't want to end this on a sour note that I think you're rational is entirely wrong:
The fetch quest was jarring. No words of greeting are exchanged, you can see that the player just clicks the quest NPC, gets the entire infodump without any further interaction and accepts or declines. Even Skyrim's fetch quests had more dialogue than that.
This is absolutely true in all its forms. While I don't think there's anything wrong with how the quest objective itself is presented, I do take issue with the very stilted dialog in the engagement.
All the rest of the Leliana torture stuff I dismiss out of hand in all its incarnations. I could write a tome about how difficult it is to approach that subject from the right angle and for what it's worth, Bioware did the absolute best job with that situation as is possible without 1.Expending a disproportionate amount of resources and 2.Bringing it to borderline fetishistic levels as what seems to be some people's leanings in here.
So Leliana could have looked a bit more ruffled (or something) in her torture scene although I don't know why she needs to be naked tbh. Maybe wearing less armour or something but I guess that depends on stuff like how long she has actually been there for, what if they just strung her up and started torturing her? We don't know how she was tortured, yes there were tools on the table but that doesn't mean they were all used on her or maybe they hadn't gotten to them yet?
This scene is optional and we don't actually know how common it is, I am not sure if I even care that much. Maybe they will give her a bit more of a battered look in the full game, if not well I still don't care that much.
The fetch quest is OK if it's what's replacing chanters boards in DA:O/randomly finding stuff in DA2. Not if it's replacing real quests.
So Leliana could have looked a bit more ruffled (or something) in her torture scene although I don't know why she needs to be naked tbh. Maybe wearing less armour or something but I guess that depends on stuff like how long she has actually been there for, what if they just strung her up and started torturing her? We don't know how she was tortured, yes there were tools on the table but that doesn't mean they were all used on her or maybe they hadn't gotten to them yet?
This scene is optional and we don't actually know how common it is, I am not sure if I even care that much. Maybe they will give her a bit more of a battered look in the full game if we are lucky, if not well I still don't care that much.
She doesn't have to be naked. I don't know who even wants her to be naked.
She just has to look like she has actually been tortured. A single scar would be enough. Maybe even just that blood-sprayed look that characters get after a fight. Anything.
The fetch quest is OK if it's what's replacing chanters boards in DA:O/randomly finding stuff in DA2. Not if it's replacing real quests.
I agree, it seemed like a very minor fetch quest. That doesn't mean they will all be like that but if it's what we get to replace the fetch quests in DA2 then I don't know how we can see this as anything other than a good thing.
As I said before, it has story context directly related to what the Inquisitor is doing at the time. That wasn't the case in DA2 or even in ME3 as many of the fetch quests were related to some random mission later on in the game.
She doesn't have to be naked. I don't know who even wants her to be naked.
She just has to look like she has actually been tortured. A single scar would be enough. Maybe even just that blood-sprayed look that characters get after a fight. Anything.
Well people were complaining about it not being mature enough and using pictures from TW as examples where some of the torture victims are topless at least. I'm just saying her state of dress is not necessarily all that important. As I said we don't know how she was tortured, some visible sign on her face could be nice but I really don't think it matters that much.
Well people were complaining about it not being mature enough and using pictures from TW as examples where some of the torture victims are topless at least. I'm just saying her state of dress is not necessarily all that important. As I said we don't know how she was tortured, some visible sign on her face could be nice but I really don't think it matters that much.
The usual post battle blood splatter would help immensely, I think. Maybe through in some blood dripping from her mouth, a cut or two, something.
Your option re: fetch quests is not between that and a quest with context, cinematics, etc.
It is, literally, an additional way to get quests and to interact with NPCs. It is not 'these types of quests or top quality quests!', but rather 'these types of quests or no quests'.
RE: Leliana's appearance. That isn't final on that segment, for reasons which include spoilery things.
Well people were complaining about it not being mature enough and using pictures from TW as examples where some of the torture victims are topless at least. I'm just saying her state of dress is not necessarily all that important. As I said we don't know how she was tortured, some visible sign on her face could be nice but I really don't think it matters that much.
I also feel that this focus on the physical damage of torture misses the point of why torture itself is so abhorrent. The psychological damage that often lasts for the rest of the victim's life is a thousandfold more harmful than the physical damage that may heal weeks or even days after it's inflicted.
Your option re: fetch quests is not between that and a quest with context, cinematics, etc.
It is, literally, an additional way to get quests and to interact with NPCs. It is not 'these types of quests or top quality quests!', but rather 'these types of quests or no quests'.
RE: Leliana's appearance. That isn't final on that segment, for reasons which include spoilery things.
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RE: Leliana's appearance. That isn't final on that segment, for reasons which include spoilery things.
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You devil you. I'm intrigued. Perhaps it's something Suicide Mission-esque where if you wait too long before sending her and rescuing her she's in...a worse state.
All hail the cine designers and their IB efforts!!! All glory and praise are theirsYour option re: fetch quests is not between that and a quest with context, cinematics, etc.
It is, literally, an additional way to get quests and to interact with NPCs. It is not 'these types of quests or top quality quests!', but rather 'these types of quests or no quests'.
RE: Leliana's appearance. That isn't final on that segment, for reasons which include spoilery things.
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