So, it has been confirmed that whatever the class of choice, a human Inquisitor will be a noble (ironically, it was around the anniversary of the takeover of the Bastille in Paris). Why don't we ever have the chance of playing as a commoner? The scrapped human commoner origin from DA:O is still my biggest regret from that game. So far, the only human character we can play are nobles of some sort (Couslands, Hawkes/Amells, Trevelyans) while I think that rising to power from a condition of minor importance would make for a much cooler game - apart from the fact that nobles are usually arrogant and irksome.
Human Inquisitor a Noble: why can't I play a commoner?
#1
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:14
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#3
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:18
Technically, the Mage Warden lost any nobility they may have had with the Amell name when they were sent to the Circle of magi.
#4
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:19
You played a commoner in Dragon Age II.
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#5
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:23
Wait guys, I know that mages lose their nobility rights of inheritance (they can't be landed), but they are still nobles by birth and status. In fact, a mage hawke can still restore the status of his fallen family.
#6
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:23
You played a commoner in Dragon Age II.
Hawke was a noble by matrilinear descent.
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#7
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:25
Hawke was not a noble in the normal sense, it had to earen everything from the ground up and was never seen has a noble, meerly a champion and someone who got lucky.
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#8
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:26
Hawke was a noble by matrilinear descent.
His mother never married matrililinearly though?
#9
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:30
Hawke was a noble by matrilinear descent.
No he wasn't, since she was disowned.
#10
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:36
Hawke was a noble by matrilinear descent.
On her mother side, and Hawke wasn't born or raised with a noble title or stature. He earned it back in Kirkwall.
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#11
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:41
Because that's not the story that has been written for the Human Inquisitor. In the same way that we can't play a City Elf. The story has been written from the perspective of a Dalish. Your race is your background choice. We could go further and ask why we can't play a Human from a barbarian tribe? Because that's not the story that's written. I'm afraid that's just the reality of game development. They can only offer so many choices to the player.
Also, you say that nobles are usually befitting a certain personality type, but both the Couslands and Amells were shown to be considerate and kind. So you can't tarnish the majority of noble families with the same brush. Perhaps the Trevelyan Inquisitior will also be from a considerate noble family.
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#12
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:47
it makes sense that the inquisitor had some power and influence over his/her cohorts before the events of the main game and given that commoners in a world like Thadas have little to no influence or power plus would this game be more believable if we went with the classic pig herder storyline I don't think so
#13
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:51
Hawke was a commoner in Act 1. As for Trevelyan being a noble thats the story bioware want to tell with him. Theres a story reason his a free marcher noble.
#15
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:51
I imagine that the inclusion of the extra races has something to do with it. Very early on I remember reading that they were going to go with human-only for Inquisition originally, but scrapped it and added the others in, and then took some extra time to add in Qunari as well.
Definitely a worthy trade, if you ask me.
Plus we have no idea just how noble Human Quizzy's background is. They could be a very insignificant family for all we know. If you want a more humble beginning, the elf is supposed to be Dalish and so far the dwarf has only been called a 'surface dwarf', so who knows what the specifics are?
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#16
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 01:57
It is because commoners are common, your going to be a hero so got to be noble! Or it is a matter of putting in another option such as a commoner background would take more work and time which they are using for other things in the game.
#17
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 02:00
Besides being "different" from what we usually get, what's the appeal of playing a character with a commoner background?
If you really want to play a character like that, I suppose you could just role a dwarf.
#18
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 02:13
#19
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 02:16
They're may be compelling story reasons as to why the human needs a noble background. It likely plays into the reason why they're at the peace conference at the first place.
#20
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 02:22
They're may be compelling story reasons as to why the human needs a noble background. It likely plays into the reason why they're at the peace conference at the first place.
If the story can handle a Qunari, a Dwarf or an Elf, it can handle a commoner. They've clearly chosen a noble background.
Maybe they decided that the commoner backgrounds in Origins weren't especially popular.
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#21
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 02:23
Peter the pig herder will struggle, glowing hands or not...?
But by that argument, a dalish elf will face prejudice as will even a vashoth qunari.
And a surface dwarf has a serious chance of being overlooked.
So I'm sure there is a story or side-quest hook to this as Peter the pig herder is likely to have a less interesting back story.
#22
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 02:31
A lowly barmaid or messenger boy becomes head of the inquisition? Could have been interesting. If I have to loose out on that for a Kossith Inquisitor. It's a fair trade I suppose.
#23
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 02:58
May simply be a means to explain why they have elite combat training (The explanations for the City Elf in Origins, at least, were a bit shaky) there's always the criminal route (Like the Dwarf Commoner) but they may have had difficulty justifying why a thug pushed into a life of crime would be at the Peace summit. (Ot they simply didn't want to repeat that story)
#24
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 03:01
Wait guys, I know that mages lose their nobility rights of inheritance (they can't be landed), but they are still nobles by birth and status. In fact, a mage hawke can still restore the status of his fallen family.
Hawke was an apostate though.
A mage sent to the Circle loses all that.
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#25
Posté 15 juillet 2014 - 03:11
I think it makes sense considering that at least elves and qunari (and likely human mages, too) are going to be "outsiders" and/or "underdogs" ... Not every player likes that sort of perspective. So they can choose to be a human warrior or rogue and kind of be someone from the beginning. Or a dwarf, which could be a middle ground on the "being respected by other people" scale.
(I mean, I would have liked different backgrounds for each race to choose from, too - but the inclusion of races at all is a muuuch more awesome feature, so no complaints from my side.)





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