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[Nefla]

Being human is the only way you'd be able to be a noble in DA:I since the Qunari and Elves can't be nobility and a Dwarf inquisitor would be a surfacer. If you want to be lowly and downtrodden, playing an elf gives you a much more intense experience. If you want to be just a normal person, Dwarves are accepted by almost everyone. I think it's good that we have the option of playing a character who has a noble background and not have them all the same. Also a mage inquisitor isn't nobility.

[Milan92]

I doubt they are gonna do much with it, but it does create possibilities.

[In Exile]

Bioware wants to tell a story about a noble - that's important. DA:I is clearly setting up the races to count as different perspective. I would wager Cadash might be darwven warrior caste, which is closer to commoner (or at least the middle class of the setting). 

[metatheurgist]

Common fantasy trope is the stable boy being the hidden king. So just turn it around. You're the stable boy at the peace meeting and when you walked out of the fade people started calling you "lord". Rather than disabuse them of the notion you just ran with it. Tada Commoner Origin!

[cronshaw]

So, it has been confirmed that whatever the class of choice, a human Inquisitor will be a noble (ironically, it was around the anniversary of the takeover of the Bastille in Paris). Why don't we ever have the chance of playing as a commoner? The scrapped human commoner origin from DA:O is still my biggest regret from that game. So far, the only human character we can play are nobles of some sort (Couslands, Hawkes/Amells, Trevelyans) while I think that rising to power from a condition of minor importance would make for a much cooler game - apart from the fact that nobles are usually arrogant and irksome.

 

Because the writers have a story arc and a vision in mind and they can't indulge every single fantasy.

This is essentially like asking why wasn't King Lear a woman

And Hawke did rise from a position of minor importance to one of power

And all the characters in DA:O were stripped of everything when they became Wardens

so they basically did too.

As for nobles being arrogant and irksome that is totally within your sphere of control in both games and sounds like a personal bias.

[Schreckstoff]

Hawke wasn't a noble because he took up the name of his father even the Will that'd reinstate her noble status would have her an Amell again and the only.way Hawke would gain noble status would be ny taking up the Amell name as well.

[TheLittleBird]

I really wish we could play as an elf who was a free pirate out on the Waking Sea but alas.

I understand that there is some disappointment as to the limitedness of certain background-related character options in the game, but you have to understand that they can't give you an endless amount of choice so in the end, they have to draw a line somewhere.
Anyway, I'm sure every race of Inquisitor would have some amount of social status in his/her culture/social background.

[Aolbain]

Biowares unrealenting hatred of the proletariat.

Viva la Ancien Régime!

[The Elder King]

Bioware wants to tell a story about a noble - that's important. DA:I is clearly setting up the races to count as different perspective. I would wager Cadash might be darwven warrior caste, which is closer to commoner (or at least the middle class of the setting).

Well, they said the dwarf PC is a surface dwarf. Which can technically mean everything, but I interpreted it as being in the same spot of Varric. Being born in the surface.

[Lebanese Dude]

A commoner origin has its appeal, but i think the noble background offers more options from a roleplaying perspective. I imagine you being a human noble would provide you with extra content within the royal circles of Fereldan and Orlais. An analogue would be the elves receiving extra content with the Dalish. A human commoner won't really have extra content anywhere relatively significant in the grand scheme of things.

[Al Foley]

It is kind of dissapointing to me too but it makes some manner of sense.  But in the end there are several ways of playing a noble character.  For instance you can be sort of a noble who has fallen from grace and just really bitter about the whole noble thing, so they are more of a commoner in mind set. 

[Celtic Latino]

I like the idea of being a human noble. The context of the game calls for being a survivor of the peace meeting that killed thousands, and your presence for being there has to be significant. An everyday Joe/Jane who just 'happens to be there' wouldn't make much sense, but a Nobleman/woman or Circle Mage would perfectly fit within the context of the story.

 

Plus, I have to deal with being a commoner in everyday real life. Kind of nice that at least my PC gets to feast on sweet-meats and have some title to his/her name.

 

They probably would have had a commoner option had the Inquisitor only been allowed to be human since there were to be story-changing, dialogue-affecting background choices. But, we got dwarves, qunari and elves as a playable option, and even they are relegated to specific backgrounds (Dwarf = Surface, Qunari = Vashoth, Elves = Dalish). Dwarves can't be Miner/Smith/Noble/Casteless, Elves can't be City Elves (or Circle Mages), Qunari can't be Qun-raised or Tal-Vashoth. But most would agree just having optional playable races was a fair trade, even if your background is rather specific. 

[Elhanan]

Plan to play a common Noble; problem averted....

 

[Zered]

You want to be a commoner? Play the surface dwarf I guess.

[SofaJockey]

So Bella from Redcliffe tavern does not become Inquisitor...  pity... 

[Tinxa]

I like being a noble. I think it's refreshing. Being a poor peasant whose village gets burned down has become such a fantasy cliche imo.

 

Besides if you want to play the underdog story there's always other races (dwarf commoner or city elf in DAO) to provide the "commoner experience" of everyone looking down on you. I don't think they need to provide a commoner human background too.

[Maria Caliban]

Also a mage inquisitor isn't nobility.

A human mage inquisitor is nobility.

[Lebanese Dude]

A human mage inquisitor is nobility.

 

I wonder if we can somehow alter the law that mages cannot inherit titles. 

 

Maybe there's a plot point involving Connor returning to Redcliffe as an Arl xD

[andy6915]

I wonder if we can somehow alter the law that mages cannot inherit titles. 

 

Maybe there's a plot point involving Connor returning to Redcliffe as an Arl xD

There is a loophole. Remember how a mage Warden Commander becomes an arl in Awakening.

[Heimdall]

There is a loophole. Remember how a mage Warden Commander becomes an arl in Awakening.

Being a Warden (And a national hero unless your Orlesian) gets through a lot of barriers...

 

Technically speaking, I think the arling was granted to the order and the order appointed the Warden commander.  And the wardens operate outside the bounds of  common law for the most part.

[drake heath]

You can't play a commoner because the Inquisitor has to do things like, you know, read.

[Steelcan]

You can't play a commoner because the Inquisitor has to do things like, you know, read.

not spending all day on the farm helps as well

[drake heath]

Being a Warden (And a national hero unless your Orlesian) gets through a lot of barriers...

And being friends with the king; it's less of a loophole more of a "I can do what I want!" kind of thing.

[Mirrman70]

He is a noble from the freemarches... It's not like he is the child of one of the highest ranked nobles in Ferelden. My guess is the human inquisitor is from a minor noble family.