No, I meant Dalish Elf. Yes, among the Dalish you are respected, but because you living in a
white man's worldhuman world, you go by their standards and their perception is that you are a second class citizen.
Dalish aren't even considered citizens. Dalish don't go by anyone's standards and perceptions but their own...
Yeah, I think you mean City Elf. If not, you are mistaking what a Dalish Elf is.
I liked the human noble origin in DAO the most. It was pretty much the reverse of the commoner origin I think where you pretty much have everything but lose it and move on.
Training, yes. Leadership, in a relevant way for an Andrastian based organization and in Andrastian countries? Not necessarily.
Being Andrastian is irrelevant, if you have the tools for the job than you're qualified, religious belief is not a concern
The Inquisitor leading the Inquisition ultimately has nothing to do with their background or potential combat/leadership experience.
You're the only one who can close the rifts, hence you are given the leadership role.
The Inquisitor leading the Inquisition ultimately has nothing to do with their background or potential combat/leadership experience.
You're the only one who can close the rifts, hence you are given the leadership role.
Being able to close veil tears doesnt make that person a leader,
if that were the case, Frodo should have been the leader of the fellowship instead of the much better qualified Gandalf, solely because he was the best option to carry the ring.
So im specualting that there is more to the selection process than just "he/she can close the rifts, lets give them an army"
You're the one who brought up authority/leadership first:Being Andrastian is irrelevant, if you have the tools for the job than you're qualified, religious belief is not a concern
And I responded that the other races' background don't give them the authority to lead the Inquisition. Which, by the way, seems more based on us being the only one able to close the Breach then our abilities or authority.Because it a commoner wouldnt have the training nor authority to lead an organization such as the Inquisition
The fact in LOTR it didn't happen it means Bioware didn't follow that route?Being able to close veil tears doesnt make that person a leader,
if that were the case, Frodo should have been the leader of the fellowship instead of the much better qualified Gandalf, solely because he was the best option to carry the ring
You're the one who brought up authority/leadership first:
And I responded that the other races' background don't give them the authority to lead the Inquisition. Which, by the way, seems more based on us being the only one able to close the Breach then our abilities or authority.
I think you missed what i meant by that, i meant that they have the skill to lead an organization such as this, having some experience in this field to be able to be trusted as its leader. It has nothing to do with religious following as the inquisition was founded to eradicate evil without Andraste being a factor in its origin
The fact in LOTR it didn't happen it means Bioware didn't follow that route?
There is basically no reason for Cassandra to put a dalish, dwarf or qunari in charge, other then the ability to close the tears.
Its an example to support my point
We dont know that, so saying it as if its fact carries no weight. Im speculating because we have little information to make conclusions, im just saying what i think would make sense, we have no idea whether the dalish dwarf or qunari has the credentials to be in charge but being the only survivor of a massacre is also another major reason to be involved beyond just the ability to close tears.
The Inquisition wasn't founded to eradicare evil, since it existed since the end of DA2. Its main purpose was likely to end the mage-templar war. And I didn't mean 'Andrastian country' as religion has something to do, but to refer to human dominant countries.I think you missed what i meant by that, i meant that they have the skill to lead an organization such as this, having some experience in this field to be able to be trusted as its leader. It has nothing to do with religious following as the inquisition was founded to eradicate evil without Andraste being a factor in its origin
The Inquisition wasn't founded to eradicare evil, since it existed since the end of DA2. Its main purpose was likely to end the mage-templar war. And I didn't mean 'Andrastian country' as religion has something to do, but to refer to human dominant countries.
But yes, I misunderstood what you mean with authority. Still, it might not be enough to put you at the head of the Inquisition.
You should read up on the origin of the inquisition
http://dragonage.wik...iki/Inquisition
We know that the Inquisition was already re-founded in DA2 i some way. Why would Cassandra put a (possibly talented) stranger she was even suspicious about at first at the head? In normal cases you'd recruit him, not make him the leader.Its an example to support my point
We dont know that, so saying it as if its fact carries no weight. Im speculating because we have little information to make conclusions, im just saying what i think would make sense, we have no idea whether the dalish dwarf or qunari has the credentials to be in charge but being the only survivor of a massacre is also another major reason to be involved beyond just the ability to close tears.
I already read it. I was talking about the Current Inquisition.You should read up on the origin of the inquisition
http://dragonage.wik...iki/Inquisition
We know that the Inquisition was already re-founded in DA2 i some way. Why would Cassandra put a (possibly talented) stranger she was even suspicious about at first at the head? In normal cases you'd recruit him, not make him the leader.
We dont have enough information to conclude that Cassandra has no other incentive to allow this.
I already read it. I was talking about the Current Inquisition.
Edit: and about the original one, Andraste was already dead, but the Inquisition was a religiosi organzation, formed by Andrastians.
And the founders being Andrastian was irrelevant to the goals of the inquisition. Im confused as to why we're even debating that
My point is, in my opinion it makes more sense to have a noble lead an organization due to experience, you questioned the other races credentials in which i brought up that there are plenty of opportunities for those races to gain credentials in this area, as we've seen it multiple times. I dont see why that should be debated
We never saw an elf, dwarf or qunari becoming the leader of an Andrastian organization, nor I think one of those members ever achieved a position of that high relevance in human organizations, if you don't count the Grey Wardens. If you have other examples, feel free to post them.We dont have enough information to conclude that Cassandra has no other incentive to allow this.
And the founders being Andrastian was irrelevant to the goals of the inquisition. Im confused as to why we're even debating that
My point is, in my opinion it makes more sense to have a noble lead an organization due to experience, you questioned the other races credentials in which i brought up that there are plenty of opportunities for those races to gain credentials in this area, as we've seen it multiple times. I dont see why that should be debated
We never saw an elf, dwarf or qunari becoming the leader of an Andrastian organization, nor I think one of those members ever achieved a position of that high relevance in human organizations, if you don't count the Grey Wardens. If you have other examples, feel free to post them.
Again neither of those traits are relevant in the inquisition because the inquisitions motives are not dependent on the leader being a human or andrastian.
The point isn't that the Inquisition wouldn't allow other races to join or become leaders. The point is that those races don't grant any of the possible authority or recognition a human Noble could have in a human country.Again neither of those traits are relevant in the inquisition because the inquisitions motives are not dependent on the leader being a human or andrastian.
Biowares unrealenting hatred of the proletariat.
That's because they're usually revolting.
The point isn't that the Inquisition wouldn't allow other races to join or become leaders. The point is that those races don't grant any of the possible authority or recognition a human Noble could have in a human country.
Ok? I dont see what that has to do with the point i made
Ok? I dont see what that has to do with the point i made
Well, seriously, we did have that with Hawke. Our protagonist rose to power and became a champion. My female Hawke was referred to as a nobody without influence. She didn't receive any special treatment until after she became a champion. Granted her mother was of nobility, but she had forfeited that when she married a commoner, in which my female Hawke was actually a commoner via her father. Now, if her father was nobility, she would have been a noble and thus referred to and treated as such.
As for the human protagonist being a noble in Dragon Age: Inquisition, there could be an underlying reason for it. Even though, she might be a noble, we don't know her backstory yet. Let's us just have faith in the writing team. We could be dazzled by what the team has in store for us in Dragon Age: Inquisition.
That they don't have enough credentials based on their background to become leader of the Inquisition.
Just because a human would have an easier influence in that position in no way means that the other races dont or wont have any influence. I dont see how you came to that conclusion and again i dont see why we're debating this when this isnt my original point at all
Just because a human would have an easier influence in that position in no way means that the other races dont or wont have any influence. I dont see how you came to that conclusion and again i dont see why we're debating this when this isnt my original point at all
I think it's that a human noble has a perspective that no other race can have or have anything like. We are going to be dealing with allot of humans and probably allot of nobility a human noble adds a different perspective, different treatment and different options. Like it did in origins.
There isn't much a human commoner background adds that a dwarf one would not so when they picked races it makes sense that the noble background was the one they kept.
I don't think elves are the bottom of the barrel in Dalish society, which is where our elven PCs are from.
IIRC, the dwarven PC is from the merchant clans, which are somewhat like guilds. You're not a commoner. It's probably the closest thing Thedas has to a middle class.
I wouldn't be surprised if the qunari PCs were remarkable or unique in some way.
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