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[Wulfram]

I initially assumed Baldur's Gate would have vikings in it

[Mornmagor]

It's called BALDUR'S GATE.

 

Spiritual successor refers to focusing on story, characters/companions that follow you and you are able to bond with them in various ways. Bioware basically created something back then, and Dragon Age was the evolution of that. It's more of a successor to BG2, rather than 1.

 

Think of it like this:

 

Baldur's Gate was a fantasy party RPG, and so is Dragon Age.

 

Baldur's Gate had a heavy storyline, and so has Dragon Age.

 

Baldur's Gate had party interaction and banter, and the ability for the main character to interact and romance party members, along with a big number of possible companions. The same happens with Dragon Age.

 

Tactics are still in place, especially with the top down tactical camera in play.

 

There are obviously differences, like setting, graphics and physics(it's 2014 after all), exploration since DA:I is almost open world etc.

 

Yeah i would say it still is a, "spiritual" successor.

[andy6915]

Seeing as it's a really old game but is also often praised by fans of it, I have to ask... As someone who has never played BG, is it worth getting the enhanced edition of it? I mean is it still a good game, or is it a badly aged archaic game that was very significant for the genre but isn't actually worth playing if you have no nostalgia for it?

[Majestic Jazz]

Seeing as it's a really old game but is also often praised by fans of it, I have to ask... As someone who has never played BG, is it worth getting the enhanced edition of it? I mean is it still a good game, or is it a badly aged archaic game that was very significant for the genre but isn't actually worth playing if you have no nostalgia for it?

I would like to know this as well. I would not mind getting both Baldurs Gate games to sooth my wait for DAI.

[Heimdall]

Seeing as it's a really old game but is also often praised by fans of it, I have to ask... As someone who has never played BG, is it worth getting the enhanced edition of it? I mean is it still a good game, or is it a badly aged archaic game that was very significant for the genre but isn't actually worth playing if you have no nostalgia for it?

I just got it and I'm trying to get into it.

 

So far?  Its taking some time to really get interested.  I find that my general dislike for D&D spellcasting mechanics is getting in the way.  Still, I haven't had a chance to get very far yet because of my schedule and I don't really have many game on my list before october.  I'm hoping it improves as I go along and I'm told BG2 is better.

[Uccio]

How about a remake of Baldurs gate 1 & 2 with current DA style? That would be awesome.

[andy6915]

I just got it and I'm trying to get into it.
 
So far?  Its taking some time to really get interested.  I find that my general dislike for D&D spellcasting mechanics is getting in the way.  Still, I haven't had a chance to get very far yet because of my schedule and I don't really have many game on my list before october.  I'm hoping it improves as I go along and I'm told BG2 is better.

I don't know what D&D casting is like, so that comparison doesn't help me.

How about a remake of Baldurs gate 1 & 2 with current DA style? That would be awesome.

I would absolutely love that. But I think Bioware has said that it would take too much resources and money with modern day tech to redo it today, same reason Square has never remade Final Fantasy VII. Don't know how true it is though.

[SofaJockey]

Seeing as it's a really old game but is also often praised by fans of it, I have to ask... As someone who has never played BG, is it worth getting the enhanced edition of it? I mean is it still a good game, or is it a badly aged archaic game that was very significant for the genre but isn't actually worth playing if you have no nostalgia for it?

 

It's tiny figures and text choices. Great plot. But it is old. Given its age it plays like an arcade title now. I have played it on iPad. 

 

This gameplay video gives a good idea of what you are in for.

I have chosen a section that is not particularly significant plot-wise.

 

 

[Vilegrim]

D&D might but the Forgotten Realns are still going good at least some series.

Erin M. Evans' Brimstone Angels series and The Adversary are really well received and she got further books already in the works, Salvatore finally revived the companions of the hall, sadly Kemp's Godborn seems to have been commercially unsuccessful, after all those years of waiting, so Erevis Cales' saga is dead for now.

WoTC should really get some more authors to write new stories though. Drizzt and Elminster can't keep the Realms alive on their own.

I'm just happy the Spellplague is over.

 

 

Given how women where treated in the latest Cale book, I am happy it is dead.  Seriously every named  female in the entire book is sexually assaulted in a way that eventually kills her, one in the first few pages by a main character who changes her pregnancy so that the birth will tear her apart.   I ended up rooting for the world ending horror at the end, by how bleak and abusive the world he created was, at least the female population would have died relatively clean, along with everything else, instead of having to wait for one of Mr Kemps heroes or villains to kill them via sexual violence.   Oh and when Erevis figures this out, that the mother of his child had been brutal murdered by his 'friend' he brofists him....yea.

[Mornmagor]

Seeing as it's a really old game but is also often praised by fans of it, I have to ask... As someone who has never played BG, is it worth getting the enhanced edition of it? I mean is it still a good game, or is it a badly aged archaic game that was very significant for the genre but isn't actually worth playing if you have no nostalgia for it?

 

Depends.

 

In general, it's a game that aged well, it has interesting companions and plot. Most of the companions in BG2 are more memorable than others from games of today even, although it's subjective.

 

However, realistically, it's much harder for someone who never played it before, to get into it now. There are many things you might find not to your liking.

 

If you can get past the dated graphics and the D&D system, it's a solid game that will keep you entertained for sure.

[In Exile]

Seeing as it's a really old game but is also often praised by fans of it, I have to ask... As someone who has never played BG, is it worth getting the enhanced edition of it? I mean is it still a good game, or is it a badly aged archaic game that was very significant for the genre but isn't actually worth playing if you have no nostalgia for it?

 

It really depends on what you like in an RPG. BG1 and BG2 are D&D, and that has a lot of problems. Low-level combat is either something you love or hate with an incredible passion, depending on what you like in combat (and how cool you are with missing 70% of the time and 1-hit KOs, of you). Magic, again, is love or hate (depending on how much you can tolerate Vancian casting). 

 

The dialogue is very simplistic in BG1 by comparison to any Bioware game, and pretty generic. BG2 improves on this substantially. There is an actual serious plot that permeates more through BG2. 

[uzivatel]

You may consider it spiritual successor of pretty much any game you want. Thats the thing about spiritual successors.

 

I consider DA2 spiritual successor of Planescape: Torment.

[Heimdall]

I don't know what D&D casting is like, so that comparison doesn't help me.
 

Spells are available according to level.  You can learn many, but only memorize a few to cast each day before you need to rest (It can be very frustrating to only be able to cast 3-5 spells in an encounter when I'm used to Dragon Age spell casting)

[SofaJockey]

I initially assumed Baldur's Gate would have vikings in it

 

Balduran's helm was rather 'viking looking', though of course there is no evidence supporting vikings actually wearing horned helmets. 

 

 

[andy6915]

Spells are available according to level.  You can learn many, but only memorize a few to cast each day before you need to rest (It can be very frustrating to only be able to cast 3-5 spells in an encounter when I'm used to Dragon Age spell casting)

That's awful. Combined with that rather boring gameplay vid and... Yeah. Skipping it.

[Vilegrim]

That's awful. Combined with that rather boring gameplay vid and... Yeah. Skipping it.

 

 

actually I knida like it, makes you be really careful of casting spells, and allows far more variety in available spells, so that choices matter.

[In Exile]

actually I knida like it, makes you be really careful of casting spells, and allows far more variety in available spells, so that choices matter.

 

There's very little variety and actual choice in D&D magic. It's just an incredible deluge of crap and broken abilities, and a very limited set of very useful abilities. 

 

You have to be careful in your abuse of the rest mechanics, not casting spells. 

[Vilegrim]

There's very little variety and actual choice in D&D magic. It's just an incredible deluge of crap and broken abilities, and a very limited set of very useful abilities. 

 

You have to be careful in your abuse of the rest mechanics, not casting spells. 

 

lets just say YMMV on that.

[CronoDragoon]

That's awful. Combined with that rather boring gameplay vid and... Yeah. Skipping it.

 

I played through it for the story, and some of the characters are very interesting. But I hate isometric gameplay, so it was a real hit-or-miss experience for me. BG2 has aged much better than BG1.

[andy6915]

I played through it for the story, and some of the characters are very interesting. But I hate isometric gameplay, so it was a real hit-or-miss experience for me. BG2 has aged much better than BG1.

Yet I've heard BG fans say BG2 is worse than BG1. Nostalgia?

[In Exile]

Yet I've heard BG fans say BG2 is worse than BG1. Nostalgia?

 

Different features focused on. Sylvius, for example, likes the aimless wandering you can do in BG1 more, and he prefers low-level D&D gameplay.

[TUHD]

DA:O was an spiritual successor. DA2 and DA:I (especially DA2) feel more like an cheap knock-off of Diablo II....

[Lady Shayna]

Yet I've heard BG fans say BG2 is worse than BG1. Nostalgia?

 

Difference in preference, IMO.

 

BG had more areas that were just there to explore - without any large story based reasons to go there.  BG2 had a tighter story cohesiveness, but lost some of the freedom to just go do your own thing.  Also, BG was lower level combat, while BG2 was mid to super high level combat (as you were expected to take the same character through both).  Each type of combat has its own advantages and disadvantages, and thus would also fall under a preference sorta thing.

 

I still like BG and BG2 (and other recently made games that have the same general feel), but my daughter found the graphics and interface kept her from enjoying BG when she tried it.  Alas!  She did like DA:O, however, so I haven't entirely failed as a gamer mom.  Heh.