Then who can it be? Sera is already gated - as gay character, Dorian too. "Only human" Cassandra and Cullen? Cullen was interested in elven mage in DAO, why would he be restricted from it now? Besides, both are already gated as well - they are straight.
I do not know, of course, but it looks like already known romaces are not those that race-gated.
Maybe they will double gate a character?
It's Bioware, I have no doubt there will be a solid reason behind the race gating
You're right, I have faith in them 
That would be interesting.
Like I said before, I'll bet Iron Bull and Dorian get together if neither is romanced by the Inquisitor.
I want this to happen so much. I like it when companions have lives outside of the players, especially unromanced LIs. It would also be nice to see same-sex couples form outside of the player as well. Isabela and Fenris hooked up if Hawke didn't romance them and I remember implications that Carver had a thing for Merrill. It would be great to see that with IB and Dorian or Sera and Josephine (or anyone really.)
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Then who can it be? Sera is already gated - as gay character, Dorian too. "Only human" Cassandra and Cullen? Cullen was interested in elven mage in DAO, why would he be restricted from it now? Besides, both are already gated as well - they are straight.
I do not know, of course, but it looks like already known romaces are not those that race-gated.
Maybe they didn't want to reveal the story-reason because it can be spoiler-ish
I want this to happen so much. I like it when companions have lives outside of the players, especially unromanced LIs. It would also be nice to see same-sex couples form outside of the player as well. Isabela and Fenris hooked up if Hawke didn't romance them and I remember implications that Carver had a thing for Merrill. It would be great to see that with IB and Dorian or Sera and Josephine (or anyone really.)
Sadly, I really don't think that will be happening. Remember when some boneheaded homophobic Players were outraged about Anders hitting on them? I have a Feeling that BioWare will provide Ways for those boneheaded Idiots to avoid any and all Content that even approaches same-sex Relationships and sadly, if they don't involve the Player, Relationships like - for example - Fenris and Isabela, which is brought up in some Party Banter, are rather hard to avoid.
I don't think that's good. But it is what I expect. Thanks to these boneheaded Idiots.
Sadly, I really don't think that will be happening. Remember when some boneheaded homophobic Players were outraged about Anders hitting on them? I have a Feeling that BioWare will provide Ways for those boneheaded Idiots to avoid any and all Content that even approaches same-sex Relationships and sadly, if they don't involve the Player, Relationships like - for example - Fenris and Isabela, which is brought up in some Party Banter, are rather hard to avoid.
I don't think that's good. But it is what I expect. Thanks to these boneheaded Idiots.
I really don't think Bioware will back off of showing s/s stuff altogether-- that's not the feeling I got at GaymerX, and a lot of folks, including me, specifically brought up wanting to see evidence of non-straight relationships in Thedas outside of just the PC and their LI. While they didn't spoil anything, I feel like they were receptive and positive about the idea. They even hinted we might see some sort of trans/non-binary gender-ness addressed in the game somehow.
At the very least, we know that both Sera and Dorian are unambiguously lesbian/gay, so I don't expect this part of their character to be completely ignored/avoided even if you don't romance them.
Remember when some boneheaded homophobic Players were outraged about Anders hitting on them?
For the record, some people were more upset with the inability to let him down in a polite way, and his reaction to when you turn him down.
My reaction to losing approval points was more like "...Seriously?"
I really don't think Bioware will back off of showing s/s stuff altogether-- that's not the feeling I got at GaymerX, and a lot of folks, including me, specifically brought up wanting to see evidence of non-straight relationships in Thedas outside of just the PC and their LI. While they didn't spoil anything, I feel like they were receptive and positive about the idea. They even hinted we might see some sort of trans/non-binary gender-ness addressed in the game somehow.
At the very least, we know that both Sera and Dorian are unambiguously lesbian/gay, so I don't expect this part of their character to be completely ignored/avoided even if you don't romance them.
I don't think they won't adress it - but, for example, Sera and Dorian's Sexuality. I do not think they would just randomly bring it up in a Way like "And, by the Way, I'm lesbian/gay."
I think it was Mr. Gaider who said that, after the Way Anders was received, they probably won't again have a Companion make the first Move. Meaning that the Player would have to initiate a romantic Action towards them to find out they were gay/lesbian.
Anyway, I'm pessimistic in that regard, I admit it. I wouldn't be upset being proven wrong. s/s Content isn't one I take Part in anyway, but it's nice to see People who do be happy. And sometimes, it's amusing to see the Rage of boneheaded Ignorants.
For the record, some people were more upset with the inability to let him down in a polite way, and his reaction to when you turn him down.
My reaction to losing approval points was more like "...Seriously?"
I was fine with losing approval points, but the problem was mostly the icons (heart, heart, agressive where the only options) and the absence of a "sorry, I appreciate the compliment, but I'm not interested" was quite evident in the choose of the answer.
that moment was one of the motives I hate the icons. I, as a player, felt conditioned by those icons. In my actual run in DA2, I didn't want to accept the flirt, but I didn't want to refuse aggresively (I wanted to start a romance with Fenris with that Lady hawke, and I wanted to flirt with others characters the less I could). but the icons only gave me the chance to flirt back or be cruel. not a good way to roleplay.
I don't think they won't adress it - but, for example, Sera and Dorian's Sexuality. I do not think they would just randomly bring it up in a Way like "And, by the Way, I'm lesbian/gay."
I think it was Mr. Gaider who said that, after the Way Anders was received, they probably won't again have a Companion make the first Move. Meaning that the Player would have to initiate a romantic Action towards them to find out they were gay/lesbian.
Anyway, I'm pessimistic in that regard, I admit it. I wouldn't be upset being proven wrong. s/s Content isn't one I take Part in anyway, but it's nice to see People who do be happy. And sometimes, it's amusing to see the Rage of boneheaded Ignorants.
But there's a difference between
Sera: "By the way, I'm gay" and
Sera: "I don't trust mages. I dated one once... nearly burned me bald any time she slung a fireball."
See the difference?
There is a way to organically incorporate mentions of a characters sexuality without making awkward 'coming out' statements.
EDIT: and I don't really care if offhanded mentions like that make homophobic jerks whine.
I was fine with losing approval points, but the problem was mostly the icons (heart, heart, agressive where the only options) and the absence of a "sorry, I appreciate the compliment, but I'm not interested" was quite evident in the choose of the answer.
that moment was one of the motives I hate the icons. I, as a player, felt conditioned by those icons. In my actual run in DA2, I didn't want to accept the flirt, but I didn't want to refuse aggresively (I wanted to start a romance with Fenris with that Lady hawke, and I wanted to flirt with others characters the less I could). but the icons only gave me the chance to flirt back or be cruel. not a good way to roleplay.
Yeah, thats fair.
I agree, but there was also that added frustration of losing points as well.
Its not that huge of a deal, but it was annoying enough to stick with me.
There is a way to organically incorporate mentions of a characters sexuality without making awkward 'coming out' statements.
Yeah, thats how you want to do it.
I feel like, of all games, Fallout: New Vegas did it well with Arcade Gannon. He just casually mentions in a conversation about how terrible the working conditions are, "Now I know what your thinking, why hasn't some handsome young man stepped in and sweeped me off my feat...."
Thats the best way to do it. It just gets it out there casually. No drama. No awekwardness.
For the record, some people were more upset with the inability to let him down in a polite way, and his reaction to when you turn him down.
My reaction to losing approval points was more like "...Seriously?"
Most people don't take rejection well. I think that was pretty realistic of Anders. And plus those +10 rivalry points could always be made up easily.
Anyways I wish they'd hurry up and announce the remaining two romances and all necessary gates already. Otherwise I wouldn't have needed to make a thread regarding on what remaining combos we most/least want in addition to the many, many others out there.
Most people don't take rejection well. I think that was pretty realistic of Anders. And plus those +10 rivalry points could always be made up easily.
I dont know. Consider the scenario.
You just met this guy. You go off and kill his former lover. You see him turn into a demon. And then immediately, "By the way, Im warm for your form. You have a problem with that?"
I dont exactly think you should be upset with someone if they say they aren't interested. Losing ten pints isnt hard to recover, but if you consider how many points you lose from people for worse things, it just doesn't sit very well with me.
Grant it, some of the problem is that your only choice is to flirt back or be rude.
I dont know. I just dont think thats fair.
Yeah, thats fair.
I agree, but there was also that added frustration of losing points as well.
Its not that huge of a deal, but it was annoying enough to stick with me.
Loosing the approval points was less bad than not having a way to let him down gently, for me. After all, the fact that I'm being nice may be ininfluent for him, since I'm still refusing his advances. So he can still be offended.
but the lack of a more "neutral" answer bug me (if weren't stuck with the damn well-of-torture, maybe we could have had a fourth answer. U_U )
surely was an annoyng moment, and is a pity, because I like when characters flirt with my PC. 
Loosing the approval points was less bad than not having a way to let him down gently, for me.
Right, ideally i would have preferred to let him down gently.
Vivienne and Solas
Vivienne and Varric
Vivienne and Blackwall
Solas and Verric
Solas and Blackwall
Varric and Blackwall
All of them bi, otherwise I feel like I'm getting screwed.
All of them bi...NOT GONNA HAPPEN...
I've been thinking about the race-gating a little bit, and have at least a partial theory. Could the race-gating be related to adding on the additional playable races? Beyond the obvious in that now there are more races, of course. 
Before the other races were added, you only had to deal with a human Player Character, and could, thus, build a specific story around one.
So, let's take Solas. If Solas were an LI and his story written before the additional races were added, maybe part of his romance takes place in the Fade, or a lot of his romance dialogue has to do with taking the Player into the Fade, or teaching them how to use the Fade. Then you add in Dwarven Player characters. Dwarves don't dream, and unless our glowy hand suddenly makes dwarves capable of it, that means that there is no way the already-written romance plot can work with a dwarf. Thus, story-related race-gating.
I'm trying to think of other examples, but I can't. Perhaps Vivienne talks a lot about how dating an elf or qunari would be political suicide. Do you think that this could have something to do with it?
All of them bi...NOT GONNA HAPPEN...
I think it would be possible, but not very probable.
Actually, I think it's very likely that whoever the last 2 LIs are, they're both bisexual. The race-gating, I feel like I can't predict at all.
I really don't think either of the remaining two LIs are straight. It's just a feeling.
Actually, I think it's very likely that whoever the last 2 LIs are, they're both bisexual. The race-gating, I feel like I can't predict at all.
I really don't think either of the remaining two LIs are straight. It's just a feeling.
Thing is, im hoping for Varric, and I have my doubts about his bisexuality.
But i guess its possible.
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Actually, I think it's very likely that whoever the last 2 LIs are, they're both bisexual. The race-gating, I feel like I can't predict at all.
I really don't think either of the remaining two LIs are straight. It's just a feeling.
I agree its because we know that they both will be race-gated
so by making them bisexual more players will be able to romance them
I think that one of them will be only available to human and elven Inquisitors and the other one to Dwarves and Qunaris
so that the LI's will be divided equally
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