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Regarding Mages: I can't think of any solution that would actually work


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#526
Xilizhra

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The Bard and the Dalish Mage attacked one Revenant from a distance with arrows and spells and killed him.

The two chevaliers, who had sword and shields, managed to defeat the other Revenant in a straight fight. As they were running to kill the Arcane Horror, he released a spell that had them on their knees. As he was going to release another, Celene stabbed him from behind and disrupted it. One of the Chevaliers then got up and sliced its head off.

 

Chevaliers are awesome. There's this one that was captured by Dalish, disarmed, disrobed and beaten to a pulp; then they chain him to an aravel. He breaks free from his chains, grabs a blanket and kills three Dalish warriors with it.

Then he grabs a sword, kills three more Warrions, the War Chief and the First.

Good thing the Inquisitor will still be better, then. Especially in my case.

 

 

Well, technically, they didn't.

Voldemort wouldn't have stood a goddamned change against the British army..

He'd have won easily. Dementors are invisible to Muggles and probably immune to physical force; just send a few of them in to crush everyone's morale and eat a few souls. Then there are the giants, and his ability to fly unpowered and invisible...



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They sound badass,I like the chevaliers already. ^_^

 

A lot of them abuse their power, though. Do you remember Liselle, the Orlesian flower/scented oil merchant in Denerim? Chevaliers may be badass, but they shouldn't be romanticized.

 

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Good thing the Inquisitor will still be better, then. Especially in my case.

 

Given the chevalier initiation rite that involves murdering innocent elves in the Alienage, I certainly wouldn't be opposed to my Inquisitor dealing with any unethical chevalier. And I suppose the Inquisitor might have to clean up Michel's mess in Inquisition, too.


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In a horribly inefficient way at the maximum cost of human life....

In War there is sacrifice that is the reality. 



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Chevaliers are awesome. There's this one that was captured by Dalish, disarmed, disrobed and beaten to a pulp; then they chain him to an aravel. He breaks free from his chains, grabs a blanket and kills three Dalish warriors with it.

Then he grabs a sword, kills three more Warrions, the War Chief and the First.

 

Yeah, according to TME, chevaliers are exactly as deadly as their reputation says. That, or TME characters had the benefit of being The Protagonists. PC power to the max, even if they weren't exactly PCs. At least TME didn't forget to depower Gaspard a bit in the end, because it would have been jarring otherwise to have him in his palace/castle/camp/whatever doing nothing after such examples of badassery.

 

Given the chevalier initiation rite that involves murdering innocent elves in the Alienage, I certainly wouldn't be opposed to my Inquisitor dealing with any unethical chevalier. And I suppose the Inquisitor might have to clean up Michel's mess in Inquisition, too.

 

And clean Hawke's messes too!



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He'd have won easily. Dementors are invisible to Muggles and probably immune to physical force; just send a few of them in to crush everyone's morale and eat a few souls. Then there are the giants, and his ability to fly unpowered and invisible...

Until muggles came up with binoculars that allowed them to see Dementors. They have to have some sort of biology, after all. They may even radiate body heat.

Also, giants and flight? Please. Guns, jets, helicopters, snipers; hell, maybe even drones. And it doesn't matter if he can turn himself invisible, he'll still radiate body heat.

If the Ministry for Magic had bothered to ask the muggles for help, the problem would have been mopped up before the start of the school year.



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And clean Hawke's messes too!

 

Yeah, I won't be surprised if Corypheus or the Qunari spies become an issue in Inquisition, especially if the latter are building up towards an inevitable Qunari incursion into Thedas again. That said, I have to say the idea of an elven Inquisitor defeating one of the fabled Magisters does have a rather poetic visage to it.



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Until muggles came up with binoculars that allowed them to see Dementors. They have to have some sort of biology, after all. They may even radiate body heat.

They seem to be some kind of spirit... thing, something not wholly worldly. And given the chill they spread to everyone (which extends to the natural environment, as concentrated numbers of them create cold mist), the idea of them radiating body heat seems... highly unlikely, and even then it'd only help if they can even be harmed by physical force. And how would binoculars help anyway?

 

 

Also, giants and flight? Please. Guns, jets, helicopters, snipers; hell, maybe even drones. And it doesn't matter if he can turn himself invisible, he'll still radiate body heat.

Magic-saturated air will cause all electronics to cease functioning; military sieges on wizard-controlled locations will be vastly harder, and it seems entirely possible that such saturation could be achieved by spells (as there are plenty of other spells that target whole, large locations at once).



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What about evolution theory and natural selection thing? Mages are more powerful than regular people, maybe they are second state of evolution of humanity and non-mages should be eliminated so that humanity can grow stronger and continue surviving? :D

 

Lol I'm still all for compromise rather than going for evolution theory but I don't see how: "these guys are stronger than us" is one of views when usually it's survival of fittest that is promoted. Why not let's kill all non-mages as well as option? It would make more sense than let's kill all the mages.



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They seem to be some kind of spirit... thing, something not wholly worldly. And given the chill they spread to everyone (which extends to the natural environment, as concentrated numbers of them create cold mist), the idea of them radiating body heat seems... highly unlikely, and even then it'd only help if they can even be harmed by physical force. And how would binoculars help anyway?

To see them, obviously.

Anyway, Dementors can interact with the pysical world; they can grab their cloaks to lower them, they can sink teeth into a victim's mouth to apply the Kiss. This suggest they are physical creatures, even if invisible. If there's one thing humans are good at, is killing things. I'm sure they'd discover some way of harming them.

 

Magic-saturated air will cause all electronics to cease functioning; military sieges on wizard-controlled locations will be vastly harder, and it seems entirely possible that such saturation could be achieved by spells (as there are plenty of other spells that target whole, large locations at once).

Wizards routinely hide in muggle cities without affecting the technology therefore, if it turned into looking for Death Eaters in cities, it's doubtful they could muster enough magic to make the military cease to function. Even if they could, they're always snipers who could target them from outside of the magical area.

If they tried to fortifity places like Hogwarts, some bombs would solve that.



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What about evolution theory and natural selection thing? Mages are more powerful than regular people, maybe they are second state of evolution of humanity and non-mages should be eliminated so that humanity can grow stronger and continue surviving? :D

 

You missed the evolution argument several pages back.



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Chevaliers who was represented in Masked empire is the best and the luckiest chevaliers in entire Thedas because others Chevaliers are very weak and worst warriors who is more servants for their whiny mindless Orlais nobles rather than actual warriors who can do a real fights...even Orlais Chantry priest in codex says that there are bastards who do crimes and not a real warriors

 

they was beaten by Tevinters

 

they was beaten by Nevarrans

 

they was beaten by Dalish

 

they was beaten by Qunari

 

they was beaten by Ferelden peasants

 

they just a duplicitous and liar clowns who try to portrayed themself as "best of the best" but the truth that they are just a useless bunch of uneducated low nobles with stupid clothes, cosmetics(it was in the lore that many who is not from Orlais can not say who is male or who is female)  and "holy rights" to do anything they wanted..they kill, rape, rob and sell Orlais commoners into slavery



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You missed the evolution argument several pages back.

 

Oh no, and here was I thinking I came up with new viewpoint :lol: I need to check that discussion then!