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[DuskWanderer]

A lot of people have complained about autodialogue or when characters say or do stupid crap that makes you hate them. So, I propose a question: What lines would you change to remove that problem, and what would you change it to. ME3 only.

 

 

Here's a few I would do.

 

"I better not regret this/I'm going to regret this" (A/K's dialogue if they automatically side with you over Udina.) I never understood this line. I mean, they believe you without any prodding. I'd change it to:

 

"Okay, Shepard, I understand what's happening/Yeah, let's take care of Cerberus" and then they point the gun at Udina

 

 

 

Which ones would you all change?

[Remix-General Aetius]

that sounds worse & cheesier.

 

back on track, what I'd change is the last few lines of the dinner date between maleShep & Kaidan. terrible, just terrible. crap lines, crap delivery, crap everything. painfully obvious that they were written by straight guys who had no clue how two guys that are interested in each other interact.

[DrBlingzle]

At the start: "Unless we want to talk the Reapers to death the committee is a waste of time" Intsead: "Well I suppose we could come up with some battle plans, evacuation zones and supply lines when the reapers arrive."

 

When Anderson suggests going to the council: "The council? The fights here." Instead: "Good plan Anderson there's no way we'll beat the reapers on our own."

 

When Udina complains about the Council not helping Earth: "How can they be so blind!" Instead "Well you can hardly blame them Udina. Their own worlds are being attacked and we've just asked them to abandon their own worlds to their fates and focus everything on saving Earth because Humanity is clearly superior and every species should do everything we want."

That line really pissed me off.

[Animositisomina]

I'd change ... the last few lines of the dinner date between maleShep & Kaidan. terrible, just terrible. crap lines, crap delivery, crap everything. painfully obvious that they were written by straight guys who had no clue how two guys that are interested in each other interact.

You mean it doesn't actually go like this?

 

Kaidan: "Hey, Shep. I'm totes gay for you, bro. Are you gay for me?"

Shepard: "Oh, totally!"

Kaidan: "Sweet! Let's eat some steak."

 

[End scene.]

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

I'd have the Citadel Party calm, and I'd change around the wake-up with Miranda

 

She has two different wake-up lines, with one for the calm party, and one for the loud party. I'd take her line for the calm party and replace it with the one from the loud party (and I'd discard the line from the calm party entirely because it's just... really bad, and come up with something more clever or crafty to say).

 

Also, when talking to the Reaper on Rannoch, I know it's a Rule of Cool badass boast, but I'd change the Renegade dialogue for the interrupt.

 

A lot of the dialogue is really corny in ME3, and loses a lot of the Rule of Cool badassitude that it had in ME1 and ME2, especially the Renegade dialogue. Specifically, I wouldn't have my Shepard mention the 'billions rising up to fight you'. No, Shepard knows the Reapers don't care about them. They care about him.

 

Hence why I'd make it a lot more singularly focused on him alone, and I'd change the line at the end 'Tell your friends I'm coming for them.' *bam* 'Never mind, I'll tell them myself.

[DrBlingzle]

Okay I'm not sure if this allowed but due to the lack of the neutral dialogue option both paragon and renegade dialogue options had to compensate by being more "neutrally". This meant there were a few moments when I couldn't be as much of a dick as I wanted to be. Examples:

 

When Miranda revealed she wanted to put a mind control chip inside shepard we can either forgive her or say we would of done the same thing. What I wanted to say: "Well **** you Miranda, you control freak! First you read my private E-mails and now you tell me you wanted to make me your personal unthinking slave? Seriously you've got some problems."

 

When we go to Garrus in the citadel we have the option of going to a bar (fair enough) or going to a hanar poetry recital (why is that the renegade option?). What I wanted to say: "Y'know any decent brothels nearby?"

I'm a weak, weak man. 

[Farangbaa]

I ignore the ME3 only clausule

 

Shepard telling Wrex the Turians 'kinda did the same to Humans', or however he words it. You, the player, at that point wouldn't know anything and you can say such a retarded thing. Shepard though, who's from the MEU, should not be this retarded.

 

Same goes for Shepard being surprised Asari can reproduce with Asari (I mean... REALLY???). Luckily though, you can avoid this line, but it's still.

 

I don't have that much problems with the auto dialogue in ME3, to be honest. I'm much, much more annoyed by ME1 showing me three distinct options, yet Shepard says the same thing every damn time. I don't like to played like a tool. 

 

"This evidence is irrefutable!" ... you gotta be joking me.

[Excella Gionne]

"Observe. Here is Councilor Valern being shot in C-Sec headquarters. Here is Commander Shepard pulling the trigger."

 

This line makes it so f*cking obvious that Udina is with Cerberus. How the hell would he know if Valern was killed or not?

[DeinonSlayer]

I'd have the Citadel Party calm, and I'd change around the wake-up with Miranda
 
She has two different wake-up lines, with one for the calm party, and one for the loud party. I'd take her line for the calm party and replace it with the one from the loud party (and I'd discard the line from the calm party entirely because it's just... really bad, and come up with something more clever or crafty to say).

I'd say the wake-ups for Tali with calm/energetic parties ought to be swapped as well. It's in the quiet party that she gets really drunk and talks about getting a tattoo; in the energetic party she's far less inebriated. Yet the wake-up for the energetic party is the one where she wakes up more hung over and questioning when she got a tattoo.

[Farangbaa]

I'd say the wake-ups for Tali with calm/energetic parties ought to be swapped as well. It's in the quiet party that she gets really drunk and talks about getting a tattoo; in the energetic party she's far less inebriated. Yet the wake-up for the energetic party is the one where she wakes up more hung over and questioning when she got a tattoo.

 

At the energetic party she eats non-dextro cheese though

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

Hell, if it were up to me, the whole party would be scrapped or rewritten somewhere else. Narrative and thematic concerns aside, it's pretty bad as a party on pad goes. Too much crude humor and it's too cheesy for me. There aren't a lot of lines of dialogue in it I really like.

 

Granted, I'm willing to say that I get out to more late-night activities than most. But BW needs to get a better read on nightlife I think.

[Farangbaa]

Hell, if it were up to me, the whole party would be scrapped or rewritten somewhere else. Narrative and thematic concerns aside, it's pretty bad as a party on pad goes. Too much crude humor and it's too cheesy for me. There aren't a lot of lines of dialogue in it I really like.

 

Granted, I'm willing to say that I get out to more late-night activities than most. But BW needs to get a better read on nightlife I think.

 

I was equally bummed out there weren't bowls of cocaine all over the place.

 

The only one that really got his party going on is Grunt, being passed out in my shower mumbling nonsense.

[themikefest]

"I'm sorry"  Change it to,  "Why couldn't your High Command or whatever you call them, given this information earlier? Why wait till now?"

[DrBlingzle]

"I'm sorry"  Change it to,  "Why couldn't your High Command or whatever you call them, given this information earlier? Why wait till now?"

 

When was that?

[Remix-General Aetius]

You mean it doesn't actually go like this?

 

Kaidan: "Hey, Shep. I'm totes gay for you, bro. Are you gay for me?"

Shepard: "Oh, totally!"

Kaidan: "Sweet! Let's eat some steak."

 

[End scene.]

 

would you like to find out?

[themikefest]

When was that?

After Thessia, Shepard says I'm sorry when talking with the Asari Councilor

[Excella Gionne]

When was that?

I believe it's when Shepard apologizes to the Asari Councilor about the fall of Thessia. 

[Remix-General Aetius]

Okay I'm not sure if this allowed but due to the lack of the neutral dialogue option both paragon and renegade dialogue options had to compensate by being more "neutrally". This meant there were a few moments when I couldn't be as much of a dick as I wanted to be. Examples:

 

When Miranda revealed she wanted to put a mind control chip inside shepard we can either forgive her or say we would of done the same thing. What I wanted to say: "Well **** you Miranda, you control freak! First you read my private E-mails and now you tell me you wanted to make me your personal unthinking slave? Seriously you've got some problems."

 

When we go to Garrus in the citadel we have the option of going to a bar (fair enough) or going to a hanar poetry recital (why is that the renegade option?). What I wanted to say: "Y'know any decent brothels nearby?"

I'm a weak, weak man. 

 

how many times did Miranda really need to apologize for the same thing? she discussed it once in ME2, later she apologized, then in ME3 she apologizes again while saying the same stuff all over again.........what was the point to that?

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

how many times did Miranda really need to apologize for the same thing? she discussed it once in ME2, later she apologized, then in ME3 she apologizes again while saying the same stuff all over again.........what was the point to that?

 

Dude doesn't like Miranda and is using this as an excuse to rationalize it.

[Remix-General Aetius]

Dude doesn't like Miranda and is using this as an excuse to rationalize it.

 

if you wanna failtroll me, you'll have to get up lots earlier in the morning.

[themikefest]

"Observe. Here is Councilor Valern being shot in C-Sec headquarters. Here is Commander Shepard pulling the trigger."

 

This line makes it so f*cking obvious that Udina is with Cerberus. How the hell would he know if Valern was killed or not?

What makes it even worse is your squadmates play stupid and don't stand up for Shepard saying that it was an assassin instead of Shepard

[Excella Gionne]

What makes it even worse is your squadmates play stupid and don't stand up for Shepard saying that it was an assassin instead of Shepard

Squadmates are dumb anyways, they're always silent even when there's something really important going on. I think the V.S. is the most pain in the a** character in the game. Ashley's dialogue makes you want to shoot her a little more than Kaidan's.

[Farangbaa]

'Bowls of Cocaine'?

 

What the party was missing was the couple fighting on outside over her dress and his dancing with her best friend drunkenly, the couple arguing about the same thing on the balcony, the couple having sex in the car in the driveway, the couple having sex in the laundry room, the drunk couple who are having sex in the pool, the drunk couple having sex on the pool, the girl vomiting in the toilet while her even drunker friend is trying to comfort her, the girl vomiting on the guy sitting on the toilet, the girl vomiting on the guy sitting on the toilet while trying to stimulate his manhood, the girl trying to pee in the stall, the girl trying **** in the stall, the couple having sex while one of them is trying to take a **** in the stall, the heavy mascara girl that has her mascara now smeared all over her face from crying about something after one too many screwdrivers, the girl who's so drunk that she stumbles on her heels (seriously why do girls feel the need to wear heels and drink?) while her friends try to keep her from entering a random guys Ferrari, the girls who come out of the dance club so drunk that they're like giggling about their sober friend who's trying to tell them to go home and instead all piling up into the club next door, only to be told that the club is on last call so they go to the crappy bar with the live music that's terrible but they're so drunk and high that they think the Bass Player is Tom Petty and want to sleep with him, the girl who's breasts are about to fall out of her top, the couple getting arrested, the minority couple getting arrested, the minority and white couples both getting arrested because the guy chatted up the girl of the other man, and got attacked by her man and his woman, the guy chatting up the drunk girl in his Ferrari, and the lack of ability to find a parking space for 4 square miles and wondering how the hell so many people are able to park when everywhere else is taken up.

 

And lastly, telling yourself that after an unsuccessful Friday/Saturday night of hunting, you're going to stop blowing money on clubs and pubs only to do again a month later. Oh, and getting facebook stalked by that cool, hot woman in her 30's who's desperate for a man and self-validation after her husband left her 2 years ago. That was a hoot.

 

Well, parts of these happen when Ashley lives and she's not your LI.  She and James add a little Jersey Shore to the party.

 

(and most of the things you say happen in/around clubs.. the ME party is more a cozy house party severely lacking drugs)

 

((that and, most of the things you say would've driven the puritanical part of the US into a frenzy, unless an 18+ label was added to the game))

[themikefest]

Squadmates are dumb anyways, they're always silent even when there's something really important going on. I think the V.S. is the most pain in the a** character in the game. Ashley's dialogue makes you want to shoot her a little more than Kaidan's.

You're right squadmates are dumb in ME3.  I just wanted to turn around and shoot the 2 squadmates instead of Kaidan/Ashley

[Excella Gionne]

You're right squadmates are dumb in ME3.  I just wanted to turn around and shoot the 2 squadmates instead of Kaidan/Ashley

BioWare scripted that scene very poorly. I guess they didn't have that much time to completely judge the entire scene. Originally, Thane was supposed to kill Udina, provided he survived ME2 and was talked to. Kasumi was also another character that you had to take along, provided Kasumi was recruited, loyal, survived, and her ME3 side-mission was completed. But the coup was much different before the finalized script.