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Swan Killer

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Ever since this kit came out with the I-forgot-its-name DLC, I just can't figure this chick out. 

How do you guys spec her? What weapons are recommended? Currently I'm using a Wraith, with a shredder and a blade mod.

I play Gold/Platinum, so with a pure melee build...I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with. 

So lemme se yer builds, and lemme enjoy this chick too, seems like a really cool kit, but I suck with her big time.

Thanks!



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I'll play allways UUP with Shadow its my favourite character:) can add me if ya want GT: N7 W33DHUN7ER88 ( N7 20.000) van Write u later how i skill her

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This is my current build right now, 6/0/6/6/6. It's a mix of melee and sniping, but it's mainly for sniping while dealing pretty high damaging melee during close quarter combat. It's actually my favorite for her right now. I got tired of the melee build, but here is my melee build. That melee build works much better with a high cooldown since you can pull out a two SSs within a small timeframe while maintaining the 80% damage bonus. The alternative one is this


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This is my current build right now, 6/0/6/6/6. It's a mix of melee and sniping, but it's mainly for sniping while dealing pretty high damaging melee during close quarter combat. It's actually my favorite for her right now. I got tired of the melee build, but here is my melee build. That melee build works much better with a high cooldown since you can pull out a two SSs within a small timeframe while maintaining the 80% damage bonus. The alternative one is this

I was writing my own post that had a build almost identical to the first one you mentioned. :D



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Excella Gionne

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I was writing my own post that had a build almost identical to the first one you mentioned. :D

Lol! Why? What's yours?



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Lol! Why? What's yours?

Mine focuses more on armour, because I like how the fire sword looks like, with Disruptor Rounds and the Valiant. But yeah, you're a better player than me, so I won't bother sharing mine. :)



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http://kalence.drupa...34V56314!C3DE8G

 

It works on platinum, but you'll have to understand when to SS some of the bosses. Also, I carry extra medi-gels because she can go down easily.

The plan is simple: SS in an inward spiral pattern, pick off the mooks first, and SS the bosses when they are focused on someone else. Atlases can be heavy meleed from behind. Use ES and the gun when facing groups or a Praetorian. Heavy melee abombs. Run back into cover a lot after SSing, or finish off with the gun.



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http://kalence.drupa...34V56314!C3DE8G

 

It works on platinum, but you'll have to understand when to SS some of the bosses. Also, I carry extra medi-gels because she can go down easily.

The plan is simple: SS in an inward spiral pattern, pick off the mooks first, and SS the bosses when they are focused on someone else. Atlases can be heavy meleed from behind. Use ES and the gun when facing groups or a Praetorian. Heavy melee abombs. Run back into cover a lot after SSing, or finish off with the gun.

Your build is probably why you're going down a lot of the time. You have heavy damage output with SS, but you lack an escape, therefore, that pins you down in the thickest situations should you SS into a group of enemies. It's best to add in bonus power on Rank 6a for Tact. Cloak just so you have some sort of escape.


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Mine is specced similarly to Excella's melee build, though I do have points in Electric Slash just now, at the expense of some passives, and I always go 6b armour damage in fitness.

 

If you play off host I highly recommend using a Geth Scanner - it helps tremendously with SS targetting.  Also, if you do go for a melee build, remember to actually melee - it's easy to use SS more than you actually need to when her melee is quicker.  



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Your build is probably why you're going down a lot of the time. You have heavy damage output with SS, but you lack an escape, therefore, that pins you down in the thickest situations should you SS into a group of enemies. It's best to add in bonus power on Rank 6a for Tact. Cloak just so you have some sort of escape.

Yeah you got it, if I jump into a group by accident it's costly. It takes some strategy and patience to play to avoid such scenarios.



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Either 60666 (by skipping elec. slash) or 53666 (split between cloak and slash).

- Damage, melee damage, bonus power for cloak

- Damage, DoT and drain for shadow strike

- Power, power, weapon damage in passives

- Fitness specced for max melee damage. I alternate between shield and armor damage but I prefer the shield damage now-a-days.

 

Loadout: Wraith + smart choke and omni blade, AP ammo, strength enhancer, adrenaline, berserker package

Sometimes, I run the eviscerator, crusader or katana. I always use shotguns.



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Let's run a few games sometime and I'll show you.

 

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Hey, I see lots of pro's posting their high end plat builds but you said you are not very good with her at the moment, so I would definitely suggest something similar to Excella's alt build

 

http://kalence.drupa...34556364!038B9G

 

This also happens to be the build I enjoy most on her.

 

About the build, duration and bonus power on cloak allows you to SS twice per cloak or just once and move off stealthed after first strike if you can't find someone on the edge to safely SS a 2nd time. This also has the benefit of not needing the SS energy drain or protection evo's in SS as the stealth in most cases will imo provide superior survivability, as well as just using longer cloak on other things (revives, objectives ext). This build will also kill most mooks in one shot and those that live you can finish with a melee strike if your in a safe enough place or move to cover while still cloaked and feed em a wraith shot to finish them. I prefer the extra armor damage on melee as i find it more useful, as well atlas's which you can't SS this works really well on them, just do it at their back.

 

Also if your fast enough, you can SS a tougher enemy with mooks around, which will be primed, and then electric slash while still cloaked to get a tech explosion.aka Atlas that isn't focusing on you. As well if you have a jugger in the group, follow them around and SS all the extra's that come after him followed by ES.

 

Weapon, well lets just get it out of the way, I'm a scrub that uses the wraith with heavy barrel and omni blade as it glitches and doesn't actually add to the weight of the wraith. This allows you to keep up a high cooldown while using a good gun. Alternatively the Disciple or Piranha work just fine as well and you probably won't be shooting your gun that much with a melee focused build.

 

This build synergy is really good, offering great survivability / utility and I also find it the most enjoyable.

So cloak, target enemy on fringe or even a group and SS, bonus power will keep you relatively safe, and then ES to tech burst or pick a fringe target for 2nd SS that won't expose you to much. If enemy isn't finished, it is faster to just melee them instead of SS if no one around, otherwise move to cover and shoot them to finish.

 

Once you are comfortable with this build, you would be primed and ready if you want to try some of the higher damage / higher risk builds mentioned above that go damage instead of duration on cloak and/or no bonus power. To me though duration and bonus power just bring everything together for this kit and I rarely go down on gold. Without bonus power you decloak on every SS exposing you to lots of retaliation, making it so you spend much more time looking for suitable targets that don't have lots of friends around, as well you lose some tactics like cloaked SS > ES for tech explosion for groups of mooks as your exposed right away and on gold+ you run high risk of just bleeding on them instead.

 

One last word of caution, always cloak out of site of enemies as SS'ing enemies that are looking right at you when you cloak, like phantoms or dragoons who might kiss you first.

 

Hope this helps you out and I would love to hear if this helped you out or not.


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http://kalence.drupa...34V56314!C3DE8G

 

It works on platinum, but you'll have to understand when to SS some of the bosses. Also, I carry extra medi-gels because she can go down easily.

The plan is simple: SS in an inward spiral pattern, pick off the mooks first, and SS the bosses when they are focused on someone else. Atlases can be heavy meleed from behind. Use ES and the gun when facing groups or a Praetorian. Heavy melee abombs. Run back into cover a lot after SSing, or finish off with the gun.

 

Wait. Atlases can be heavy meleed?

 

Everyone has been telling me "You can't Shadow Strike an Atlas." O_o

 

Also, Cloak and then Shadow Strike is amazing. :) Once you get the timing down (TC, then SS, and SS yet again! then your cool-down for TC will have already finished ^_^), you can spend like 90% of the time cloaked so you can even work as an Medic Infiltrator of sorts once you get the timing down. Seriously it's amazing. I have so much fun with the N7 Shadow.



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Shadow Strike =/= heavy melee
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Wait. Atlases can be heavy meleed?

 

Everyone has been telling me "You can't Shadow Strike an Atlas." O_o

 

Also, Cloak and then Shadow Strike is amazing. :) Once you get the timing down (TC, then SS, and SS yet again! then your cool-down for TC will have already finished ^_^), you can spend like 90% of the time cloaked so you can even work as an Medic Infiltrator of sorts once you get the timing down. Seriously it's amazing. I have so much fun with the N7 Shadow.

Like Moby said SS isn't heavy melee. To heavy melee, you need to be pretty much directly behind the Atlas.



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Well I'm no pro player of the Shadow, but this is the build I'm most comfortable with.

 

Since Sword Mastery rank 6 evos only apply to regular melee thus have no effect on SS, and I find myself hardly use her regular melee on Gold/Plat, so I drop them and put the points into Electric Slash, even at rank 3 ES is effective for taking out crowded mooks. However If you do use melee just drop ES and put those points in Sword Mastery 6B.

 

I drop Martial Artist for movement speed increase, so that I can go max damage on SS, since the Shield Drain speed buff only lasts 4 secs after decloak, and I prefer constant fast speed.



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Thanks for the suggestions, so far I've tried 3 builds with her, and they work awesome, now I just have to get a hang of this character, since I haven't played her over a year. But at least now I know what I was doing wrong with my build.



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Build ES spamming, with fire explosions. The only thing I use shadow strike for would be annoying phantoms. If you shoot the executioner then ES right away it will skip the reload animation. Completely platinum worthy :P



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Since Sword Mastery rank 6 evos only apply to regular melee thus have no effect on SS


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Build ES spamming, with fire explosions. The only thing I use shadow strike for would be annoying phantoms. If you shoot the executioner then ES right away it will skip the reload animation. Completely platinum worthy :P


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Well I'm no pro player of the Shadow, but this is the build I'm most comfortable with.

 

Since Sword Mastery rank 6 evos only apply to regular melee thus have no effect on SS, and I find myself hardly use her regular melee on Gold/Plat, so I drop them and put the points into Electric Slash, even at rank 3 ES is effective for taking out crowded mooks. However If you do use melee just drop ES and put those points in Sword Mastery 6B.

 

I drop Martial Artist for movement speed increase, so that I can go max damage on SS, since the Shield Drain speed buff only lasts 4 secs after decloak, and I prefer constant fast speed.

 

They fixed it. Rank 6 now works with SS too. It just doesn't affect the bleed damage.



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This is my favorite build.  Similar, but not identical, to some of the other ones posted here.  I generally use this build by mixing SS, heavy melee, and shotgun fire.  I also use the GPS/EB/Blade, Wraith/HVB/Blade, Raider/Choke/Blade, and Venom/EB/Blade for this build, and they work pretty well.

 

I'm convinced Duration and Bonus Power are the way to go with Cloak.  Yes, it stunts your damage potential a little, but not as much as people say.  Doing multiple SS in one cloak is not the main reason I do this.  Once you do your SS, you have a lot more options for what to do next, whether it's heavy melee, gunfire, repositioning, or retreating.  It's a lot more forgiving of errors, and my play is far from error-free.  If you don't take Duration and Bonus Power, you have fewer options and less time to decide after you do your SS, so you have to be selective about when and where you SS.  No fun.  I like to Leeroy Jenkins my way in and then decide what to do after I get there.

 

I set this build up for armor damage, because you can still OSK almost any mook with SS, and armor damage allows you to use it well against bosses, where it can be amazingly effective.  Don't SS Praetorians or Possessed Aboms though.


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Yes, I'm working on trying to like her too. But playing her with a melee & Shadow Strike focus really bores me. So my latest spec for her is 66356. And go sniping, cause at least I enjoy sniping and Sniper Rifles, while I'm not to crazy for Shotguns and too much melee focus.

 

I tried the Krysae on her once and it somehow made me fall in love with that SR again, after a brief falling out of love with it. And found out that after you break tac-cloak with a shot from it, you can still trigger an Electric Slash under that same cloak cancel for detonating your ammo power from the Krysae shot. Use disrupter ammo, since the Krysae is already great for armour. Only too bad that ES extra tech combo damage evolution is bugged and does not work. So choose the other evolution for... basically no benefit at all either... man she sure don't want to impress. >_<

 

 

Other then that, I still need to mess around with her more and other SRs. And see what happens. I'm also interested in other SR builds folks may suggest here.