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I remember when Mass Effect 2 came out, people hated it.  Now that Mass Effect 3 has been out, Mass Effect 2 is a lot of people's favorite.  I guess what I am trying to say to OP is that when the next Mass Effect game comes out, you will be okay with liking Mass Effect 3.  :P

 

I wasn't, and still am not, a supporter of ME2.

 

However, I'll tke ME2's anemic plot, bloated cast, and blatant retcons over ME3's "art" any time.



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I'd say it's surreal for someone to love Uwe Boll movies. I actually met someone who does, and my mind is still letting that sink in.

 

Clearly this person was not actually a person but is in fact an online troll gaining corporeal form


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Granted, the way he constantly refers to himself in third person as Hulk does not look really sane, but that's a style thing :P


Anyone else visualize a Brazilian football player rather than a green dude when they see "Hulk" now, or is it just me?
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Anyone else visualize a Brazilian football player rather than a green dude when they see "Hulk" now, or is it just me?

 

I see both, being a tremendous Marvel fan, and a huge fan of Canarinho



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No one's wrong for how they feel about the game, you're over-thinking it.

 

Ah, if only you were here during the old days... the dark old days...

 

I recall being accused of rape because I chose Synthesis. 


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If it makes you feel better, Cosmic, just know that for everyone who hates the ME3 ending, there is no doubt something else they very much enjoy, and that for every one of those things they very much enjoy, someone else out there hates it.

 

I've pretty much vacated these boards since my enjoyment of the Mass Effect series is inversely proportional to the amount of time I spend here. If you enjoy it, then that's all that matters; your taste isn't dependent on anyone else's approval.


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Ah, if only you were here during the old days... the dark old days...

 

I recall being accused of rape because I chose Synthesis. 

Ah yes, I remember. I think I was referred to as a war criminal/space Nazi for committing "genocide" on some programmed tin cans.

 

 

 

Ofcourse there's some Space Hitler's (controllers) and Rapists of the Natural World (synthesizers) who know what I'm talking about. We should all throw a few back and light up some time.



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Ah, if only you were here during the old days... the dark old days...

 

I recall being accused of rape because I chose Synthesis. 

 

I think you still might if you mention it in the wrong thread. 



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Ah yes, I remember. I think I was referred to as a war criminal/space Nazi for committing "genocide" on some programmed tin cans.
 
 
 
Ofcourse there's some Space Hitler's (controllers) and Rapists of the Natural World (synthesizers) who know what I'm talking about. We should all throw a few back and light up some time.


YOU'RE ENSLAVING TWENTY THOUSAND CYCLES OF CORRUPTED LIFE AND BUILDING A GOD LIKE BEING IN YOUR OWN IMAGE

It's beyond deplorable...
It's sick...

/Bill Casey

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I think you still might if you mention it in the wrong thread. 

 

Hell, go on to facebook, and you get all the people who hate the ending because it doesn't let them beat the Reapers conventionally.



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YOU'RE ENSLAVING TWENTY THOUSAND CYCLES OF CORRUPTED LIFE AND BUILDING A GOD LIKE BEING IN YOUR OWN IMAGE

It's beyond deplorable...
It's sick...

/Bill Casey

 

That's not Bill Casey...

 

He would never say something like that...

 

There's no ellipses after your first statement...

 

And I don't think he used his name as a signature...

 

Which was really annoying when people did that...


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I love Mass Effect 3. I think it's the best game in the trilogy. Yes, I started with Mass Effect 1 back in 2007, so it's certainly possible to have been a fan in the early days and still come to the conclusion that Mass Effect 3 is a fantastic game. 

 

Of course, ME3 has some problems, and the most significant ones revolve around the ending. But I still respect the overall attempt, even if it was somewhat misguided. There are things that I actually really like about the ending, and I try to focus on those more than the negative aspects. 

 

Unfortunately, there are people who can't, or won't, appreciate the game as much as I do. And some of these people actually hate the game, and may even be outright disgusted by it. 

I'm with you, I think ME3 is not only the best game in the trilogy, but one of the video games ever. I think the ending is a weak point, but I think the criticism is waaaay exaggerated. At the end of the day, there isn't much you can do but feel bad for the people who are unable to get as much enjoyment out of this excellent game as those like you and I. 


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 I am rather used to loving things that are hated.



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Ah yes, I remember. I think I was referred to as a war criminal/space Nazi for committing "genocide" on some programmed tin cans.

 

 

 

Ofcourse there's some Space Hitler's (controllers) and Rapists of the Natural World (synthesizers) who know what I'm talking about. We should all throw a few back and light up some time.

 

I was called a space hitler because I prefer the paragon control ending most. I then reply by saying it has the fewest casualties and that my paragon shepard could easily just take the reapers to dark space and protect from a distance against other reaper sized threats that may be out there. Then I'd be ignored while the name callers turned to their next victim who wasn't a MEHEM'er



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Anyway, is this the first time you've appreciated something with some hate, OP?

No, I love Star Wars, including the Prequel Trilogy, which pretty much everyone hates. In fact, it seems that the mainstream opinion is that it sucks. I'm rather bitter about it.



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No, I love Star Wars, including the Prequel Trilogy, which pretty much everyone hates. In fact, it seems that the mainstream opinion is that it sucks. I'm rather bitter about it.

 

Can't really agree with the entire Prequel Trilogy, but I do dig Episode 3 a good bit more than some folks.  So ... that's something.

 

You're on your own with Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, though.  At least Kevin Smith agrees with you.

 

 I am rather used to loving things that are hated.

 

Same here. 


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after the extended cut ME3 became my favorite game of the series (destroy ftw!) so no, you arent weird.



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Unfortunately, there are people who can't, or won't, appreciate the game as much as I do. And some of these people actually hate the game, and may even be outright disgusted by it. It kind of puts me in a minor existential crisis. Am I wrong to like this game? Are they wrong to hate this game? Is there any way to objectively analyze a story and declare if it's good or bad? Obviously, the answer to every question is "no". It's all subjective. Something that excites me and brings me joy may bring misery and despair to someone else. 

 

Actually you're right to like the game. And yes, there are ways to analyze objectively the writing and tell if something is good or not, that's why there are genius, good writers, people who write just to please people... and that's why there are good readers and bad readers.



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No, I love Star Wars, including the Prequel Trilogy, which pretty much everyone hates. In fact, it seems that the mainstream opinion is that it sucks. I'm rather bitter about it.

And I'm bitter about the PT trilogies existence. 

Every May 4th, I watch all six movies. Nonstop. But instead of the "prequel trilogy," I watch the Plinkett reviews. 


 


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*snip*

 

I'm tired of defending ME3. I'm tired of explaining why I like it. I'm tired of feeling like I'm not supposed to like it. I'm tired of the arguments where the two opposing sides use "irrefutable logic" to vanquish each other. And I truly resent the implication that I'm kind of a bad person because I can understand the Catalyst's perspective. 

 

*snip*

Yes, yes, OP. I, too, am tired. I'm tired of defending why I don't like ME3. I'm tired of explaining why I don't like it. I'm tired of feeling like I'm supposed to like  it. I'm tired of the arguments where the two opposing sides use "irrefutable logic" to vanquish each other. And I truly Resent the implication that I'm some kind of idiot because I don't like the endings.

 

It works both ways.

 

So, perhaps it's time to call a truce on this BS. And perhaps even, time to stop making thread after thread rehashing the same BS.


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ME3 will always be one of my all-time favorite games alongside the Dragon Age series, and it's certainly flawed, but I found it to be a pretty great experience. I loved the Tuchanka and Rannoch arcs, I loved the farewells and I'm rather satisfied overall with the Destroy epilogue, despite having some obvious flaws in the logic and lore. It's the only one of the three that I can continually replay and the only one that I can really indulge myself in with its combat as well as its story. Heck now that I have the Citadel DLC, I can gleefully fight all of the multiplayer enemies for fun with whatever I want and no concern for those weird MP tasks. Also, I feel that I have the greatest connection to the ME3 crew. James, Steve and even EDI were massive pluses to me.

I do understand why people don't like the game though. It has lots of problems, and that's fine. But then, I'm one of those freakwads that loves Dragon Age 2.
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Group hug time yet?


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I'm tired of the arguments where the two opposing sides use "irrefutable logic" to vanquish each other.


So much this

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It works both ways.

 

So, perhaps it's time to call a truce on this BS. And perhaps even, time to stop making thread after thread rehashing the same BS.

I'm all too aware of this. A truce is the only solution.

 

ME3 will always be one of my all-time favorite games alongside the Dragon Age series, and it's certainly flawed, but I found it to be a pretty great experience. I loved the Tuchanka and Rannoch arcs, I loved the farewells and I'm rather satisfied overall with the Destroy epilogue, despite having some obvious flaws in the logic and lore. It's the only one of the three that I can continually replay and the only one that I can really indulge myself in with its combat as well as its story. Heck now that I have the Citadel DLC, I can gleefully fight all of the multiplayer enemies for fun with whatever I want and no concern for those weird MP tasks. Also, I feel that I have the greatest connection to the ME3 crew. James, Steve and even EDI were massive pluses to me.

I do understand why people don't like the game though. It has lots of problems, and that's fine. But then, I'm one of those freakwads that loves Dragon Age 2.

Unlike Kelly Chambers, Steve Cortez and Samantha Traynor almost feel like squad members to me. It's amazing how much they grew on me. 

 

I also like Dragon Age II. 


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Ah. back again. I Liked Mass Effect 1 - really liked it. It reminded me of the kind of space exploration games I played on the Electron before Elite came out - except with visuals I'd been dreaming of. When Mass Effect 2 came out - Wow.. For me that was the PERFECT video game. balanced between FPS/TPS genres I'd liked, and the Sci Fi roots that were absoultely spot on. Amazing. Mesmerizing even - an "interactive movie" my father called it when he saw it. Compelling. Friends visiting would be happy to watch someone playing.

 

Mass 3. What the HELL Happened there?

 

buggy, crashing, incomplete software that delivers a "kind of" story   And at the end....

 

Well. I'm sorry, but at my age pop-up cardboard cut-outs to shoot don't do it for me. And I dont give a T*SS about stupid multiplayer b*ll*cks beign forced into a series that never had it before and didn't need it.

 

And if some random holographic kid tries to rewrite the cannon in the last 30 seconds, well.... Yeah. Whatever. Theres no point in me ever investing in this  again. Because it's all going to go bonkers on the whim of some product manager that doesn't have the faintest clue about the story they are screwing about with. A Story that customers might be invested in, becuase they've spent hundreds of pounds and hundereds- perhaps thousands of hours in it, supporting your company.

 

And to those who go ON and ON about "rainbows and unicorns" being unrealistic - Look at the world now! we could use some rainbows and unicorns in it! I GET IT You want a bleak ending! And clearly that means that EVERYONE must ALWAYS AND ONLY  have a bleak ending. Yeah. Thanks. and screw you too.

 

My conductor, back in my orchestral days, had a saying: Start well, Finish well, they'll forget what's in the middle. That, I'm afraid, is the inconvenient truth here. It doesn't matter that the middle was great. And it was - it was truly amazing.


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