To be fair, Duncan had to threaten to drag my Dalish Elf to get him to go with him.
Not only your Dalish 
(my mages and other characters - with the exception of my Dwarf-Lady (she didn't have a choice - dying the Deep Roads or joining the wardens - didn't want to either...I would have loved to be able to run from Duncan later and fight the blight without being an actual Warden (like we get to now with the Inquisitor, who has a Warden as a companion)
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One way or another, she will have moved on from the Warden, which is a bit cheap to me. Why not just create a new character if you're going to change most things about them? Oh right, because you can get fans excited on the basis of recognition.
Didn't Bioware say that they made her not romancable specifically because they didn't want to mess with any previous potential romances the player could initiate? Doesn't sound like she's moved on to me in that case.
Being left hand of divine? Doing dirty work for chantry? As i said if you walk to the church and pray it doesn't make you fanatic if you run at night and kill for religion and church pretty much i would argue.
Pretty much if i was doing what she does for allah society would declare me a fanatic.
Once again, the Divine is one of her oldest friends, someone who saved her life. She is loyal to her, that doesn't mean she's loyal to the Chantry. She kills for Justinia, not the Chantry. They're kinda the same thing overtly now that Dorothea became Divine Justinia, but there's still a difference in where her loyalties lie.
Leliana is loyal to the chantry. This is pretty obvious in DA:O. It was the Chantry that took her in and allowed her to find redemption.
That doesn't necessarily mean she agrees with it on everything or would follow it against her own conscience
Once again, the Divine is one of her oldest friends, someone who saved her life. She is loyal to her, that doesn't mean she's loyal to the Chantry. She kills for Justinia, not the Chantry. They're kinda the same thing overtly now that Dorothea became Divine Justinia, but there's still a difference in where her loyalties lie.
It was said in interview that her devotion to the maker is only matched by that to divine she kills for the maker (god) and divine religious figure.In fact you don't need religion to be fanatic.
It was said in interview that her devotion to the maker is only matched by that to divine she kills for the maker (god) and divine religious figure.In fact you don't need religion to be fanatic.
I don't think she's ever said that she kills for the Maker. I know she kills for Justinia, but that doesn't make her a religious fanatic. It would if she did it only because of religion, but it seems more like she does it out of loyalty and the fact that she agrees with most of Justinias ideas, some of which are very contradictive to the current Chantry. She's quite obiously deeply religious, as that interview makes clear, but being religious alone is not grounds for fanaticism.
I don't think she's ever said that she kills for the Maker. I know she kills for Justinia, but that doesn't make her a religious fanatic. It would if she did it only because of religion, but it seems more like she does it out of loyalty and the fact that she agrees with most of Justinias ideas, some of which are very contradictive to the current Chantry. She's quite obiously deeply religious, as that interview makes clear, but being religious alone is not grounds for fanaticism.
As i said she kills for religious figure when she thinks that maker deeply supports her and what she is doing so she kills for religion her loyalty to divine is another matter which still can make her fanatic just not religious one but as i said she kills for the maker or at least she think she does...
It's different. In DAI the primal focus isn't the darskpawn and the Blight. The PC is actually in the and spot: in both cases he has the ability to stop the current threat. The only difference is that in DAO there was another person able to do so as well.Not only your Dalish
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All of our followers kill people for something
All of our followers kill people for something
So? Alone stealing doesn't make you kleptomaniac stealing with certain characteristics make you one. Same for being fanatic killing for money doesn't make you fanatic doing that with certain characteristics does.
Leliana is no fanatic, nor a Zealot. As I recall, a Zealot was a member of a sect that opposed Roman rule, and would circumcise adult men against their will. Leliana may be a highly skilled assassin and Bard, and has killed defending her allies and beliefs, but she has not shown purposeful malevolence against those that oppose them.
Outside killing them? 
Welp, with such logic our entire teams were fanatics since they killed many people many times often for very specific thingsSo? Alone stealing doesn't make you kleptomaniac stealing with certain characteristics make you one. Same for being fanatic killing for money doesn't make you fanatic doing that with certain characteristics does.
Outside killing them?
Welp, with such logic our entire teams were fanatics since they killed many people many times often for very specific things
But of course let's blame only those who express their religious beliefs
Sides those mages in DA2 were indeed planning something sinister and attacked first, so Lelianna had every right and reason to defend herself
facepalm... omg read that.
Alone stealing doesn't make you kleptomaniac stealing with certain characteristics make you one...
But what more expect in times where political correctness gone mad.
So? Alone stealing doesn't make you kleptomaniac stealing with certain characteristics make you one. Same for being fanatic killing for money doesn't make you fanatic doing that with certain characteristics does.
Outside killing them?
When has Leliana ever killed someone simply for opposing her beliefs? The Ashes incident doesn't count as being a fanatic, as that is basically the same thing as if you were to attempt to defile body Jesus in front of a devout but normally peaceloving Christian. You can probably count on people getting upset if you threaten do desecrate something that holds a deep, spiritual meaning to them.
Other than that, I don't think there is any incident of Leliana killing people simply for opposing her beliefs. Those mages in DA2 were violent separatists who wanted to destroy the Chantry and kill the Divine, Lelianas oldest friend. Killing them was not an act of fanaticism, it was protecting her friend.
When has Leliana ever killed someone simply for opposing her beliefs? The Ashes incident doesn't count as being a fanatic, as that is basically the same thing as if you were to attempt to defile body Jesus in front of a devout but normally peaceloving Christian. You can probably count on people getting upset if you threaten do desecrate something that holds a deep, spiritual meaning to them.
Other than that, I don't think there is any incident of Leliana killing people simply for opposing her beliefs. Those mages in DA2 were violent separatists who wanted to destroy the Chantry and kill the Divine, Lelianas oldest friend. Killing them was not an act of fanaticism, it was protecting her friend.
Eee she is divine assassin killing those who oppose or are in they way of her religion is her job... not mention templars in asunder... and nope i don't rly care about psycho-mages who seek fight first they weren't my example.
Ps i don't talk about leliana in dao there she showed signs something that may turn into fanaticism but weren't one i talk about current leliana.
LOL at people thinking Cassandra and Leliana are religious fanatics.
This ^^
As I have mentioned elsewhere, killing and murder are different, as the latter is the unlawful use of the former. Killing in defense is not murder, as Leliana is not a fanatic. Of course, this is based on in game material; not head canon fan fiction sprinkled with bias for some odd reason.
Being assassin hardly is leagal at least in her case even lambert took templar after he discovered leliana (well that was part of reason).Another part hardly self-defence mostly asunder shows that perfectly. a no i don't know why you point that i use head canon or fan fiction unless asunder or newer products that show current leliana are one of them.
Being left hand of divine? Doing dirty work for chantry? As i said if you walk to the church and pray it doesn't make you fanatic if you run at night and kill for religion and church pretty much i would argue.
Leliana's been killing bastards long before she cared about the Chantry, so I don't see your point. She just has a new employer, someone who rescued her in the past.
All of our followers kill people for something
Yep, but once they start "killing for religion" as some have put it, it is now morally wrong.
Leliana's been killing bastards long before she cared about the Chantry, so I don't see your point. She just has a new employer, someone who rescued her in the past.
Yep, but once they start "killing for religion" as some have put it, it is now morally wrong.
Eh so you can't become fanatic if you didn't born one?
I will explain that once again you aren't fanatic if you kill for money or own profit.So no killing solely doesn't make you religious fanatic same as torture doesn't make you sadist however add small factor pleasure in that case now you are sadist.Killing + strong religious motive behind it =religious fanatic.
So she killed those Mages because the Maker told her to and not because she had orders from her employer. Understood.
So she killed those Mages because the Maker told her to and not because she had orders from her employer. Understood.
Eh crap that ends when peoples don't read jump into discussion reading single post with attitude "he is insulting religious peoples and call them fanatics torch him".As i said before leliana is devoted to the maker and she thinks that maker approves what she is doing and she is doing that for him while divine is leader of her religion.So you are saying that only leaders can be fanatics because those under them do what they say?
She's a bit of a fanatic...but I don't think it's just about religion.
With Marjolain and the Game , she had to be tortured to figure out something wasn't right.
Then she met the Divine , liked her ,dropped everything to live in an abbey.
That's a major shift.
Funny thing is now she's back to the bard stuff for some greater good.
She seems quite lost to me , even her relationship with the Maker , the "vision" stuff is strange.It sounds like magical thinking...I mean in a world of real "magic" , seeing a miracle in a rose?....
She's like a tool , I mean she can be somewhat evil (She thinks seducing people and killing them is "fun" )or good.
I'm not sure at the core she has her own strong moral code.
We shall see what happens in Inquisition.
Eh crap that ends when peoples don't read jump into discussion reading single post with attitude "he is insulting religious peoples and call them fanatics torch him".As i said before leliana is devoted to the maker and she thinks that maker approves what she is doing and she is doing that for him while divine is leader of her religion.So you are saying that only leaders can be fanatics because those under them do what they say?
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