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[Lucijenifer]

If it's a blank slate character, then likely not. No more knowledge than any other Inquisitor at all.

 

My guess is that the Qunari Inquisitor will only be Qunari in appearance.

[Nashimura]

If they do its very little. Considering their not raised in the qun.

 

Has that been confirmed? I thought all was known is that they are Tal-Vashoth... they could of just left (or escaped) after spending a lot of there early life there. I actually hope you get a few questions thrown your way early on that let you decide some of your background details, like you could with a elven mage in the first game. 

[LobselVith8]

Has that been confirmed? I thought all was known is that they are Tal-Vashoth... they could of just left (or escaped) after spending a lot of there early life there. I actually hope you get a few questions thrown your way early on that let you decide some of your background details, like you could with a elven mage in the first game. 

 

Yes. A while back, Gaider said he asked Kirby and, technically, the qunari protagonist is Vashoth.

[SerCambria358]

I don't really mind that we probably won't have a really deep voice for Qunari. For the males, who's to say that every Qunari has a deep voice. Sure, the ones we've seen all had a deep voice. But if everyone if your cimmunity would pseak like that, wouldn't you adapt too? And seeing as our Qunari has grown up outside of the Qun, he'd probably talk like regular people.

 

As for female Qunaris, since we haven't heard one talk before, it's not hard to believe they don't always have deep voices. So that's why I personally don't see any problems regarding how deep their voices are.

 

But on-topic: maybe they would know some words depending on how close to Par-vollen and such they grew up. Or by studying their culture. But of they don't, I wouldn't mind really. They grew up outside of the Qun so yeah.

Not really, deep voices arent a product of communities, its a physical trait. Being 7ft usually guarantees a deep voice, plus it just feels right, in no way would i take a light pitched qunari seriously when he started to become angry

[LobselVith8]

I agree there is basically no reason to pick Qunari except that they are taller than humans and have horns...

It would have been better to just leave the option out I mean the Qunari Inquisitor is basically human

no deep voice, no knowledge of Qunalt, no idea about the Qun really like an outsider

 

As a fan of the Qunari (I find them very interesting especially in DA:II) this is a major disappointment for me

Well atleast the Elf fans get their Dalish Elf

No idea why the can play as extreme guys and not us
 

 

Likely due to the plot involving the Breach, since it might have concerned their apprehension towards the Fade as the "Land of the Dead", and how they avoid it, even to the point of claiming that the Qunari don't enter the Fade when they sleep.

[sandalisthemaker]

There's no way of knowing this until after the game ships. If their parents left the Qun, it's likely that they would pass some of the language on to their child.

 

Yeah, that's how it works in the real world, surely. But I have doubts that the Qunari Inquisitor will have special lines of dialogue. They will most likely have the same lines as any other Inquisitor. Resources and such.

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

That depends, was the Qunquisitor raised by Tal Vashoth? If thats the case I think they'd know at least a little. We'll have to wait and see.

[Gervaise]

If you want to find out more about the Qun, talk to Iron Bull.   However, if you really are so pro the Qun you must realise that the Inquisitor could not be a member of the Qun unless they already fulfilled a specific relevant role within the Qun.    Essentially the only members of the Qun outside of Par Vollen are spies and intelligence gatherers.   That is what Iron Bull is and he is unusual in that he is a generic qunari, whereas most of their spies are likely to be like Tallis, in other words a race that is less likely to attract attention and suspicion.    This would greatly limit your choices in role playing the character.   You could not be a mage at all since they would never be allowed out without their minder.     One of the codex actually states that the only way you can really appreciate Qunari culture is to go to Par Vollen and that is not happening in this game but who knows about the future.

 

I am not particularly keen on being restricted to being a Dalish and am curious to how they are going to explain my presence at the Big Bang, plus how much lore I am meant to know, considering some people new to the game will have no prior knowledge.    However, being Dalish is not nearly so problematic as being a fully blown member of the Qun.   

[Chron0id]

Bah, I don't care if my Qunari can't speak Qunlat!  All the better I say!  My Qunari will be a worldly and gentle rogue (most of the time) who reminisces on the sweeter things in life, such as love and the melody of a songbird in the early hours of the morning!  This will be what makes my Qunari so eccentric.  And he will be a delight to play as.  

[CapivaRasgor]

I admit that I'll also be a little disappointed if they don't know at least a bit of it. I mean, their parents were still Qunari right? Or at the worst case scenario, their grandparents. Truth be told, it would be kinda disappointing for me if any non-human race didn't have some specific dialogue - like the elves praising the creators or the dwarves talking about the stone(I know they are surface dwarves, but still...). Specially since the devs went with gender and race gating some romances to make the characters more believable, unique, etc.

 

Seriously, as much as I loved Origins it was still very bizarre to roleplay a Dalish Elf who praised the Maker... the impression that I have sometimes is that the multiple races were just humans with different textures for most of the dialogue in the game.

[Icy Magebane]

I admit that I'll also be a little disappointed if they don't know at least a bit of it. I mean, their parents were still Qunari right? Or at the worst case scenario, their grandparents. Truth be told, it would be kinda disappointing for me if any non-human race didn't have some specific dialogue - like the elves praising the creators or the dwarves talking about the stone(I know they are surface dwarves, but still...). Specially since the devs went with gender and race gating some romances to make the characters more believable, unique, etc.

 

Seriously, as much as I loved Origins it was still very bizarre to roleplay a Dalish Elf who praised the Maker... the impression that I have sometimes is that the multiple races were just humans with different textures for most of the dialogue in the game.

In DA:O, I remember having the option to tell people you don't worship the Maker for every race, and some conversations where elves could say things like, "my people worship many gods."  That sometimes pissed people off depending on who you were talking to, but still...

 

Anyway, I will at least agree with some of what you said.  Since there are only 2 voice actors for each gender, small variations would prevent them from feeling like skin swaps.  Maybe there will be a few unique battle cries or a dialogue choice here or there... I don't expect anything major, but we'll most likely be able to choose from a few options when taking about our background, beliefs, etc... some of that will likely be race-specific, but not all...

 

As far as the Inquisitor knowing Qunlat...  I just don't see any reason why their parents would teach them a language that they would probably never use.  It's not like any of them are ever going back to Par Vollen, so why would they try to preserve any cultural link?  Now that I think about it, if they willingly left the Qun, they probably saw something in it that was so objectionable that they wouldn't want their children to be part of it... teaching them that language is pointless.

[LobselVith8]

I admit that I'll also be a little disappointed if they don't know at least a bit of it. I mean, their parents were still Qunari right? Or at the worst case scenario, their grandparents. Truth be told, it would be kinda disappointing for me if any non-human race didn't have some specific dialogue - like the elves praising the creators or the dwarves talking about the stone(I know they are surface dwarves, but still...). Specially since the devs went with gender and race gating some romances to make the characters more believable, unique, etc.

 

It would be rather pointless if the racial options simply provided Andrastians in different skins, since the Dwarven, Vashoth, and Dalish shouldn't be prohibited to the same cultural or religious views as the Andrastian human. The Dalish, in particular, use quite a few different words as part of their everyday vernacular, so I would expect the elven Inquisitor to say 'Beyond' instead of 'Fade', 'spirits' rather than 'Spirits and Demons', and the like. I'm hoping that the racial options provide their own specific cultural and religious perspective, and aren't diluted to speak in generic terms.

 

Seriously, as much as I loved Origins it was still very bizarre to roleplay a Dalish Elf who praised the Maker... the impression that I have sometimes is that the multiple races were just humans with different textures for most of the dialogue in the game.

 

That was unfortunate. I noticed that the Dalish Warden can't address her knowledge of Shartan when speaking to the Chantry members in Denerim, and there are other areas where it's clear the dialogue is rather generic, instead of background specific. The developers dropped the ball in certain areas, which is also why the protagonist who is brown or black still has white parents. Hopefully, this isn't the case in Inquisition.

[Urazz]

The main reason I find the Qunari racial choice unappealing is the fact that you aren't actually a Qunari and one might as well roll a human for all the difference it makes -- Small things like, having minor knowledge of the Qunari at hand or those neat little words from that "Qunlat?" thing would make it seem more appealing to roll one at the very least.

Actually you are still part of the Qunari race and even if you aren't part of the Qun, you are still going to face those prejudices regardless.

[Lucky Thirteen]

I thought they were returning to a DA:O style of character backgrounds. You have a little individual background story based on your race/class before the big event happens. They'll probably still have the little personal touches relating to this background throughout the story.

 

You can't really say the qunari are just like humans only bigger, when we know the humans are all going to be nobility except the mage. There is no way the qunari Inquisitor is going to be nobility, though I am curious to know if they were able to stick a mage qunari into a circle somewhere.

 

I'm theorizing that the qunari Inquisitor could be apart of a little nomadic tribe/merchant group that may have broken away from the Qun ages ago and is just passing through when veil tore. Maybe they broke away from the Qun because of the whole magic thing and are trying to practice magic in peace. Though that part kind of pushes into Hawke's background, I just imagine more of multi-family tribe working together as oppose to one family running and hiding their more magical members.

[CapivaRasgor]

In DA:O, I remember having the option to tell people you don't worship the Maker for every race, and some conversations where elves could say things like, "my people worship many gods." That sometimes pissed people off depending on who you were talking to, but still...

Anyway, I will at least agree with some of what you said. Since there are only 2 voice actors for each gender, small variations would prevent them from feeling like skin swaps. Maybe there will be a few unique battle cries or a dialogue choice here or there... I don't expect anything major, but we'll most likely be able to choose from a few options when taking about our background, beliefs, etc... some of that will likely be race-specific, but not all...

As far as the Inquisitor knowing Qunlat... I just don't see any reason why their parents would teach them a language that they would probably never use. It's not like any of them are ever going back to Par Vollen, so why would they try to preserve any cultural link? Now that I think about it, if they willingly left the Qun, they probably saw something in it that was so objectionable that they wouldn't want their children to be part of it... teaching them that language is pointless.

You know, is not really that pointless. It's a valid assumption to make that, if the Inquisitor is a Vasoth, he/she comes from a community of fellow Vasoth, probably descendend from former members of Qunari society. If that proves to be the case, then there would be little reason for then to abandon their language, it's like @TheDarkKnightReturns and his family, pratcsing their native language among themselves and using the foreign language when dealing with outsiders.

Hell, maybe some members of this hypothetical community may not even know the king's tongue at all, as it commonly happens with some isolated immigrant groups.

[CapivaRasgor]

That was unfortunate. I noticed that the Dalish Warden can't address her knowledge of Shartan when speaking to the Chantry members in Denerim, and there are other areas where it's clear the dialogue is rather generic, instead of background specific. The developers dropped the ball in certain areas, which is also why the protagonist who is brown or black still has white parents. Hopefully, this isn't the case in Inquisition.

That was quite derpy, yes. I still have laughs at the dwarven commoner discussing why the Maker left. Or the Dalish elf knowing what a tithe is when speaking to the revered mother in Lothering, first time I was like lolwutt?

[Pahldus]

The Qunari will speak no Qunlat, the Dalish will speak no elven, the Dwarf will speak no dwarven. None of them not even one word is my bet. They got 2 voice actors for both sexes, do you really think they got them to say the lines in four different ways? No, if they did that they might as well have gotten one for each race. Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but the only Qunlat we will be hearing will come from Iron Bull.

[Icy Magebane]

You know, is not really that pointless. It's a valid assumption to make that, if the Inquisitor is a Vasoth, he/she comes from a community of fellow Vasoth, probably descendend from former members of Qunari society. If that proves to be the case, then there would be little reason for then to abandon their language, it's like @TheDarkKnightReturns and his family, pratcsing their native language among themselves and using the foreign language when dealing with outsiders.

Hell, maybe some members of this hypothetical community may not even know the king's tongue at all, as it commonly happens with some isolated immigrant groups.

Maybe... It's not like I have first hand knowledge of this, so my perspective is admittedly limited.  I guess I was just looking at it as a total rejection of the Qun, which includes the parents' ancestral tongue.... but maybe it's not so simple to just let everything go because you disagree with certain aspects of your culture.

[LobselVith8]

The Qunari will speak no Qunlat, the Dalish will speak no elven, the Dwarf will speak no dwarven. None of them not even one word is my bet. They got 2 voice actors for both sexes, do you really think they got them to say the lines in four different ways? No, if they did that they might as well have gotten one for each race. Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but the only Qunlat we will be hearing will come from Iron Bull.

 

If the protagonists don't reflect their cultural background in their dialogue, opinions, and how the world reacts to them, then it would make the racial options seem rather pointless if the voiced dialogue is consistently generic.

 

One of the appealing aspects of the non-human backgrounds is having the opportunity to play as someone with their own unique view on Thedas. The Vashoth may share some ideological views as the Qunari or the Tal-Vashoth, the Dwarf may express a blend of views from the dwarves both underground and on the surface depending on how they were raised, and the Dalish have some drastically different views than Andrastians, and use elven terms quite a bit.

 

My opinion is that it would be a grave mistake for the developers to simply have every protagonist speak as a generic Andrastian human.

[Samahl]

The Qunari will speak no Qunlat, the Dalish will speak no elven, the Dwarf will speak no dwarven. None of them not even one word is my bet. They got 2 voice actors for both sexes, do you really think they got them to say the lines in four different ways? No, if they did that they might as well have gotten one for each race. Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but the only Qunlat we will be hearing will come from Iron Bull.

 

Occasionally throwing in some Qunlat isn't the same as re-recording every single line for every single race combo.

[Samahl]

but maybe it's not so simple to just let everything go because you disagree with certain aspects of your culture.

 

More importantly, it's not so simple to learn an entirely new language spoken by people who are largely hostile toward your kind.