On Player Characters and their actions in extended media
#1
Posté 18 juillet 2014 - 11:52
#2
Posté 18 juillet 2014 - 11:58
I'm sure that in DAI, it will be explained where they are.
#3
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 09:50
They're missing, Cassandra says as much during DA2's ending.
#4
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 10:02
They're missing, Cassandra says as much during DA2's ending.
This. The former protagonists aren't interfering in anything once they get bodysnatched.
#5
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 10:07
Sorry.
#6
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 10:24
Such things are nothing but wild speculations at this point and part of an entirely different tangent. The main point, however, is that the very absence of both the Warden and the Champion during these separate events are definitely being felt. I would love some form of reconciliation that either explains what they were up to the whole time, or some sort of Keep feature that would allow them some part in these other adventures.
If Hawke romanced Isabela, I think it's possible he could have been there for the adventure with King Alistair searching for his father, since the comic only depicts a particular canon, not what happened in your personal canon, and this is also true for the novels (where events might have happened differently depending on what transpired in your personal canon universe).
#7
Posté 21 juillet 2014 - 11:37
#8
Posté 21 juillet 2014 - 12:09
As far as i'm aware comics aren't canon, as in they either don't occur or occur differently based on player universe.
Alistair is dead in my main universe, so unless someone's ordered a necromancer to get his corpse up and adventuring that story isn't happening.
Equally a romanced Isabela may not even partake in such an adventure. How do the timelines of Silent Grove work in conjunction of DA2 ending and epilogue stated romanced isabela and Hawke staying together and Hawke's disappearance.
#9
Posté 21 juillet 2014 - 12:10
Personally I feel a little unconfortable when the extended media touches characters and situations that are choice-dependant. It feels... wrong. Nothing wrong with the books/comics, I actually liked reading them a lot, but it feels like the writers are handpicking a particular canon and alienating people whose canon is different, the Udina/Anderson choice in ME comes to mind. Here is hoping that this time around they don't pull something like Alistair usurping Anora's crown or Wynne ressurecting to vote against the split in Cumberland because "it was needed for the story".
The important part, regarding the extended universe content, is to understand that it is just a canon, not THE canon. After that it is also useful to be able to imagine how a similar situation could occur in one's own canon. For instance in one of my playthroughs Alistair is dead, so obviously he cannot go on the quest he does in the comics, but I just figure that in my canon Alistair is replaced with Loghain, who was still alive. In the playthroughs where both are dead, I jsut imagine that the Qunari stormed the castle without the aid of either, and solved the issue on their own.
#10
Posté 21 juillet 2014 - 12:43
The important part, regarding the extended universe content, is to understand that it is just a canon, not THE canon. After that it is also useful to be able to imagine how a similar situation could occur in one's own canon. For instance in one of my playthroughs Alistair is dead, so obviously he cannot go on the quest he does in the comics, but I just figure that in my canon Alistair is replaced with Loghain, who was still alive. In the playthroughs where both are dead, I jsut imagine that the Qunari stormed the castle without the aid of either, and solved the issue on their own.
It's not that I can't imagine different possibilities other than the EU canon or that I assume that the canon of the comics is THE canon, it's more like apprehension that they will handle different canons in a very lame fashion, with small tweaks here and there but with the same core.
Look at Wynne for example, she played a major role in Asunder, she was the one who motivated the search for Pharamond, it was to sway her that Adrian framed Rhys, her spirit is what saved Evangeline. And that's without factoring the role she played in Rhys' character development. But what if she died 10 years prior? Who will instigate the search for Pharamond and set in motion the plot of Asunder? Will they have Rhys or someone finding out that Tranquility can be reversed on his own? Will the events that triggered the war play out in a similar fashion or in a completly different one? The fact that it is more likely to be the former rather than the latter is what makes me uncomfortable but again, I really hope to be proved wrong.
#11
Posté 21 juillet 2014 - 03:42
That's why I don't read the EU stuff.





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