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[Burricho]

Curing the taint would be something you do when your Calling is around the corner

Yeah, that would be pretty awesome...

[TurretSyndrome]

I can hear my Warden saying something now: *facepalm* Why didn't I think of that earlier?! FK!!

[DarthLaxian]

Wait.. the Urn can curse anything as well?   I'm not sure the Urn can cure the corruption. Maybe. The thing I wanna know is how the heck did Fiona have a taintless child? Spoilers 

 

It's because she herself doesn't bear the taint anymore (!) - she got rid of it in "The Calling" (she's the first warden ever to get rid of it after surviving the joining!)

 

As for the Urn...I would hope so (it's my head-canon, that my warden didn't only take the one pinch of the ashes, but a lot more (to find out if it's just something enchanted instead of holy and use it when necessary - for himself and others))

 

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[godModeAlpha]

No, otherwise the Warden would have been cured, and as such, ultimate sacrifice wouldn't have been an option.

Yea, this would have killed the story.

Thinking about it now, wonder what would have happened if we were given the option to take a pinch for ourselves?

[Medhia_Nox]

Why don't we cure the Archdaemon instead.  That would screw the Darkspawn even worse. 

 

And it wouldn't have killed the story to cure The Warden.  It would simply have required you to guide Alistair (or Loghain) to the Ultimate Sacrifice or God Baby at the end.

[BloodyTalon]

Think the logical thing would be that it wouldn't work given  those are the ashes of the marker's bride, and the taint comes from the marker. The effects would conflict if one canceled out the other, plus not to mention it would make the wardens come into conflict with the chantry if they thought their was a slightest chance those ashes could work on the taint.


Though those two factions fighting would be kinda of neat over the ashes of a dead woman.

[Burricho]

Think the logical thing would be that it wouldn't work given  those are the ashes of the marker's bride, and the taint comes from the marker. The effects would conflict if one canceled out the other, plus not to mention it would make the wardens come into conflict with the chantry if they thought their was a slightest chance those ashes could work on the taint.


Though those two factions fighting would be kinda of neat over the ashes of a dead woman.

ALL HAIL THE HOLY FELT TIP MARKER! But seriously. The maker never created the taint.

[HK-90210]

The thing I wanna know is how the heck did Fiona have a taintless child? Spoilers 

 

The taint never affects the child of a Grey Warden, so it's not something that is special about Fiona. The taint simply reduces the chance of a child being conceived in the first place.

[Heimdall]

Well, if we accept the theory that the ashes' power comes from the lyrium in the area, we should then remember Avernus. The taint is alien to entities of the fade and presumably magic itself. The ashes may not be able to cure the taint.

[Ophir147]

I never thought of the taint as a disease, but rather a transformation.

 

Assuming the power of the Sacred Ashes is divine in nature and somewhat intelligent, I would assume that Andraste or the Maker would see the necessity of the taint as a tool, as well as having the foresight to see that a Grey Warden would come in contact with it and use it to save the world. If they hadn't found it, Arl Eamon would have stayed in a coma and they wouldn't have a political leg to stand on in the Landsmeet. If they had found the Ashes and it had cured the Warden, then it would have cured the Warden making them unable to fight the blight as effectively.

 

Assuming the ashes are some kind of euphoric lyrium-charged fade dust that happen to be able to cure any disease, then I don't see why it wouldn't differentiate between the Taint and the disease. Of course, there is the chance that it will cure the negative aspects of the taint and leave the ability to detect darkspawn and slay archdemons unaffected. 

 

So, if 9:60 Dragon comes and the Grey Warden is dead, the Maker is real. 

 

(I recognize the leaps of logic that this requires, but I want to belieeeeve)

[BloodyTalon]

I'm more wondering if the ashes power came from the lyrium in the area, why did they build that temple there to start with the whole temple seems built to test and lead the faithful to take a pinch of the ashes.

Maybe the healing power comes from whatever they used to burn her with, it seems likely her followers knew the powers ahead of time.  Or maybe her spirit still lingers around the ashes and she is the reason the ashes heal.

Well and defense has well.

[Jawzzus]

I hope the beginning gives us more info about the Ashes, since we will be there, and we will get to walk around talking to people before things kick off.  Maybe then we can figure out the answers to some of these questions..then it'll be gone forever anyways.

[Medhia_Nox]

Convenient that the Ashes would have healing powers.  Very nice of the Lyrium to design it's effect to coincide with something indicative of the legend of Andraste. 

[Heimdall]

I hope the beginning gives us more info about the Ashes, since we will be there, and we will get to walk around talking to people before things kick off. Maybe then we can figure out the answers to some of these questions..then it'll be gone forever anyways.

Actually, it's occurred to me that we might be sent into the Gauntlet as part of the Prologue quest. Perhaps they could use the questions there to flesh out our character. And being in the ashes chamber when the explosion occurs could explain why the Inquisitor is seen as a holy figure.

[Jawzzus]

That could work, I wouldn't mind seeing the Gauntlet again from Origins, but who would be the dead person that we have to prove ourselves to I wonder

[Eternal Phoenix]

No, otherwise the Warden would have been cured, and as such, ultimate sacrifice wouldn't have been an option.

 

How would the Warden have been cured? They never used it...

[yullyuk]

How would the Warden have been cured? They never used it...

they would have had to ingest it wouldnt they? since they ingest the darkspawn blood

[ElementalFury106]

Can't believe I never thought of that! That would be a little selfish though. Devoting your life to a selfless cause and pulling a 180 using limited magical ashes to get out of it.

 

I don't see why it wouldn't work though, what a wonderful loop hole.

[Killdren88]

Can't believe I never thought of that! That would be a little selfish though. Devoting your life to a selfless cause and pulling a 180 using limited magical ashes to get out of it.

 

I don't see why it wouldn't work though, what a wonderful loop hole.

 

I'd do it. Spend the 30 years in service to the Warden, and when the Joining is around the corner. Use the Ashes and open a tavern somewhere swapping war stories.

[movieguyabw]

Convenient that the Ashes would have healing powers.  Very nice of the Lyrium to design it's effect to coincide with something indicative of the legend of Andraste. 

 

Actually, I always assumed that Oghren's line about the lyrium was meant to imply that the ashes were enchanted by someone, and the large amount of lyrium was used to sustain the enchantment throughout the years.  Just as you can enchant a weapon, or piece of armor, or book or a stone.

 

There's a theory that Andraste was really a mage, which accounted for many of the 'miracles' she performed; and which could explain something such as that.

 

 

However, back on topic:

 

Can't say I ever thought of this.  Would be cool to hear an official word on it, so we aren't all just wildly speculating on this.  But yeah, from the sound of things, I don't see why it wouldn't work, personally.  Or even if it didn't affect the taint - it could probably have still been of use in other places in the game.  Makes me wonder why the Warden didn't scoop it all up and run - given that killing the guardian is supposedly an option the game gives you (at least from what I hear, never actually did it)  0o

[Rykn]

Blood destroys the ashes, and the Tainted gold city made darkspawn and that was the makers throne... You drink that blood and all I can think of is that no way would that work. It's effect is lost on you son.

[Elhanan]

I already headcanoned one of my Wardens using the urn to cure himself around act 2 of DA2.

Pretty much this. If it could cure poison in Eamon, my Warden would give it a shot. And the Warden fades from the events of Awakenings not to the Calling, but by losing his abilities by being cured by the Ashes.

Or lyrium taken from the same location; it also has great potential for the unknown.

[Jawzzus]

Do we know if dwarves ever get sick or diseased?  Maybe it was the lyrium that was the cure.  Ruck didn't seem as far gone from the taint as most are, but he was pretty gone.

[davidselite737]

It's because she herself doesn't bear the taint anymore (!) - she got rid of it in "The Calling" (she's the first warden ever to get rid of it after surviving the joining!)

 

 

 

Yeah exactly but HOW ? 

 

 

[Rykn]

Fiona was cured through a Medallion given to the wardens that somehow accelerated the calling. I'm iffy on the specifics but it was the architects experiment. I still killed him though. He had a habit of turning old gods into arch-demons.

 

Can't be sure that the gray wardens will always win, and therefore would prefer the old gods not be tainted.