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[movieguyabw]

Fiona was cured through a Medallion given to the wardens that somehow accelerated the calling. I'm iffy on the specifics but it was the architects experiment. I still killed him though. He had a habit of turning old gods into arch-demons.

 

Can't be sure that the gray wardens will always win, and therefore would prefer the old gods not be tainted.

 

Wait, it's been established that the Architect may have found a possible way around the Calling?  (haven't read the books - that's what I'm gathering from this post)   Because if that's the case, I'm so happy I spared him now. 

[Killdren88]

Wait, it's been established that the Architect may have found a possible way around the Calling? (haven't read the books - that's what I'm gathering from this post) Because if that's the case, I'm so happy I spared him now.

I wouldn't say that. The Architect has good intentions but his methods favour Darkspawn more than any other race. Hence I would not trust him

[movieguyabw]

I wouldn't say that. The Architect has good intentions but his methods favour Darkspawn more than any other race. Hence I would not trust him

 

Well, it's really up to the player's interpretations.    Personally, I never had a problem with him - sure, he started the last blight; however it was through his attempts to cure his brethren of the archdemon's thrall.  From what I recall, he attempted to free the archdemon of the taint, thinking that it would free the Darkspawn, and it just backfired.  Really badly.

 

Even if I did hold it against him, the fact that he has moved away from waking up archdemons, and on to using Warden blood to cure the Darkspawn one at a time show's that he's at least learning from his mistakes.  The amount of blood needed for the ritual isn't a lethal amount (if it was, the Warden and their companions would've died when he captured them)  And his discussion with the Warden at the end of the DLC suggests he's willing to find a mutually beneficial route to achieving his ends.

 

Not to mention his goals and ours line up rather well - he wants to free his people from the call of the tainted gods, and give them free will; which would put an end to the blights.  Personally, I don't really want to kill the Darkspawn - we just have to at the moment, because they're being forced to wage war with the rest of Thedas by the archdemons.  If they're sentient, and are wiling to be allies (and the Messenger proves that some Darkspawn are) I don't see a need to kill them.

 

Also, to bring this back on topic, any information he gathers in regards to freeing the Darkspawn of the archdemon's thrall could likely be used to cure the Warden of the taint.  So even if the Urn can't heal that, I don't see why any information the Architect discovers couldn't be used to lift the curse.  And I don't see any reason *not* to trust him - especially if what I was quoting actually happened in the books.

 

All the choices in DA have been shades of Grey.  I don't think the Architect choice is going to turn out all good or all bad either way.  I do think, though, that curing the taint could be a possibility with saving him.  It may come at a price, but everything in DA does.     That's just my opinion though.  lol

[Vindicare175]

Probably for plot purposes or the Guardian would step in and stop you from just taking the entire urn with you....its what I woulda done , just take the entire damn thing lol

 

Plus the entire Archdemon / Ritual part of the story would be meaningless , But it probably can cure literally anything

[frednought]

With regards to the Warden not being cured by simply touching the ashes: during the scene with Eamon, the cure is administered by what appears to be a mage.  I think we can thus assume that the ashes need to be "activated" somehow via magic in order to actually heal anyone.

 

However, I believe it's been confirmed by the devs that the darkspawn taint is a separate type of magic altogether from normal, mana-based Fade magic.  Eamon's poison, if it was magical, was likely Fade-magic based and thus could be "flushed out," perhaps, by the lyrium-powered ashes, but the taint originates from a wholly different source, so the ashes might not even be able to interact with it.

[Mirrman70]

the taint is what darkspawn use to fuel their magic anyway so I don't think it is a disease or curse by normal definitions. I am pretty sure that the darkspawn don't have a connection to the fade either.

[Killdren88]

the taint is what darkspawn use to fuel their magic anyway so I don't think it is a disease or curse by normal definitions. I am pretty sure that the darkspawn don't have a connection to the fade either.

 

Yet they originate from the Fade after the corruption of the Black City. We even fought the Darkspawn in the Fade. And the Sentient Darkspawn under the command of the Mother got trapped in the Fade.

[Rykn]

Yet they originate from the Fade after the corruption of the Black City. We even fought the Darkspawn in the Fade. And the Sentient Darkspawn under the command of the Mother got trapped in the Fade.

 

Corypheus confirms it all, even Anders starts to wonder if the Chantry actually knows more then they ever let anyone know.

 

I just remembered Corypheus survived by body snatching. I really don't want him and the architect meeting. Any good that could ever come from letting the Architect live will become extremely bad. 

[Fredward]

It's been five years and I still snicker at The Taint. #13forever

[MrDuck]

 

Wait, it's been established that the Architect may have found a possible way around the Calling?  (haven't read the books - that's what I'm gathering from this post)   Because if that's the case, I'm so happy I spared him now. 

 

Uh, didn't I read somewhere that the Architect wanted to taint every human to make them live in peace with Darkspawn?

[Maferath]

Merril was able to clean her mirror shard from its corruption by using blood magic, and stated she could have done the same with a large quantity of Lyrium at her disposal. If the Ashes are Lyrium-powered as speculated, it's possible they could cure a Grey Warden from their condition.

 

 

 

 

 

Uh, didn't I read somewhere that the Architect wanted to taint every human to make them live in peace with Darkspawn?

 

That was his original plan, before he learned that Grey Warden blood could free the Darkspawns from the Old Gods' call. We don't know if that is his goal still, but he certainly doesn't make any mention of it to our PC.

 

Fiona's cure appears to be an unintended side-effect of trying to accelerate the Taint's progression in her. It could also have something to do with her pregnancy, it's not properly explained. Could be a freak combination of factors.

[MrDuck]

That was his original plan, before he learned that Grey Warden blood could free the Darkspawns from the Old Gods' call. We don't know if that is his goal still, but he certainly doesn't make any mention of it to our PC.

 

Meh, I'll still just finish him I think. Darkspawn taint stuff so yeah. And if they got intelligent, eventually there would be Darkspawn with more radical ideas than the Architect who would want to go to war with Humans. Now that I think about it, I cringe at the thought of an intelligent Darkspawn horde. And to reproduce they'd still need to kidnap women from other races seeing as they have no women of their own.

[DarthLaxian]

Can't believe I never thought of that! That would be a little selfish though. Devoting your life to a selfless cause and pulling a 180 using limited magical ashes to get out of it.

 

I don't see why it wouldn't work though, what a wonderful loop hole.

 

I (or my wardens) didn't "devote" anything to the wardens's cause, we were FORCED (conscripted) into it and would have used any means (short of killing a great many people) to get rid of the taint!

 

My Wardens would have of course still fought the blight, but not out of obligation - rather because running does not assure survival, if the Archdemon isn't killed!

 

greetings LAX

[Killdren88]

I (or my wardens) didn't "devote" anything to the wardens's cause, we were FORCED (conscripted) into it and would have used any means (short of killing a great many people) to get rid of the taint!

My dalish. I really wanted to see Duncan drag them kicking and screaming.