Why did they not make Morrigan and Leliana romance options? Because they didn't want to write romance options for them, and wanted to go a different route with the characters. It's their characters, they can do what they want with them.
david gaider has been quoted numerous times saying origins fans would crucify him if we re romanced characters that our wardens would have romanced previously
Leilana is not romanceable because of her (potential) relationship with the Warden; Morrigan, the same (and not an advisor, anyway). Best not to tread on anyone's toes - either in Thedas, or in player's heads.
Cullen and Josephine are romanceable.
And why is that a problem?
The Warden is GONE! (Disappeared - possibly even dead!)
My Wardens are not so cruel that they would expect their LI to wait for them indefinitely! (they would want them happy!)
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I think the best reason for Leliana not to be a romance is that we have been there and done that. (Um, so to speak.) If people really want to romance her, they can boot up DAO and do it there. I'd rather have them concentrate their limited resources on the eight characters (!) we've never had a shot at before.
Cullen and Josephine are both romances, so your thread title is a little misleading.
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And why is that a problem?
The Warden is GONE! (Disappeared - possibly even dead!)
My Wardens are not so cruel that they would expect their LI to wait for them indefinitely! (they would want them happy!)
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Because the writers rightly fear the legions of pitchfork- and torch-wielding fans who would be after them if they did.
And what your Wardens may want and what their LIs then do can be two different things, much as in real life.
If you want a reason I'll give you one:
Both of them have infatuation with the Warden (similar how Liara had with Shepard in ME) and Warden is their true love even if they werent romanced. This will be apparent when your flirt line fails.
Because not every character wants to bang you.
Apparently you haven't met me then.
david gaider has been quoted numerous times saying origins fans would crucify him if we re romanced characters that our wardens would have romanced previously
Eh, if Leliana and/or Morrigan aren't romanced in that file there shouldn't be any issue. I highly doubt the fanbase would flip out if Leliana was an additional romance option in their file where nothing happened between the Warden and Leliana in DA:O.
The vast majority of people who would want to romance Leliana or Morrigan already did in DAO. The people who didn't already romance them probably wouldn't want them as a romance now. Also, if Bioware has only finite resources for romance, why spend two of those slots on characters you could romance in a previous game? Would the writers even WANT to have to write that arc, again?
See, I liked both Alistair and Zevran, and enjoyed both their romance arcs. If, of my three options as a straight female, two were these guys, I'd be seriously pissed. I've been there, done that. In Ali's case, repeatedly, I want someone new. Hell, if Varric ends up being the third option for a straight female I'll be annoyed, because it means two of my three choices are returning characters - a notion I find pretty boring.
Because the writers rightly fear the legions of pitchfork- and torch-wielding fans who would be after them if they did.
And what your Wardens may want and what their LIs then do can be two different things, much as in real life.
Fans are so serious about game romaces? LoL this whole world is a mess^^
Fans are so serious about game romaces? LoL this whole world is a mess^^
The gaming world and its inhabitants are weird and scary.
Well maybe instead of re-using 2 previous romances , we can oh I don't know , Introduce new characters? Plus Bioware said they won't be allowing previous romances to be romance-able + the entire thing with fans raising pitch-forks and torches over it lol.
Better to bring in new Characters/Romances/Stories then to reuse the same ones continuously , cameo's here and there are fine , or specific characters being key to the story and appearing multiple times is also fine
As for both of the not being LI's I for one am glad , They are Dragon Age Origins LI's let them remain there and lets get new ones for Dragon Age : Inquisition.(which we obviously have lol)
I have a feeling Leliana is going to die as part of the main storyline
I think the best reason for Leliana not to be a romance is that we have been there and done that. (Um, so to speak.) If people really want to romance her, they can boot up DAO and do it there. I'd rather have them concentrate their limited resources on the eight characters (!) we've never had a shot at before.
Cullen and Josephine are both romances, so your thread title is a little misleading.
Pretty much this. Part of the romances is a way to learn about the characters some more and a request like this is a lot of "write a romance that you've already written." I'm sure there'd be some that'd be ridiculously upset, or some that feel that if they weren't romanced in DAO they should be romanceable now, but I'd prefer to try things with new characters.
Pretty much this. Part of the romances is a way to learn about the characters some more and a request like this is a lot of "write a romance that you've already written." I'm sure there'd be some that'd be ridiculously upset, or some that feel that if they weren't romanced in DAO they should be romanceable now, but I'd prefer to try things with new characters.
That does beg the question of "Why are they in it altogether?" Based on this logic we've learned about the characters already and don't really need them here. Not to mention more than one was killable and adds to the fire "you choices don't matter" criticism, they've could of written new characters but they didn't.
That does beg the question of "Why are they in it altogether?" Based on this logic we've learned about the characters already and don't really need them here. Not to mention more than one was killable and adds to the fire "you choices don't matter" criticism, they've could of written new characters but they didn't.
The answer is easy: Because there is more of their story to tell.
I'm tossing into this argument as a Pro-Morri/Leli romance!
Except not with the Inquisitor, as let's say either Morri/Leli were romanced and for some reason in the game the warden 'makes an appearance' either from far away or whatever. Then I damn well want to see them kissing said Warden! And yeah... that's about it.
Though, as for the Warden vanishing, I'm damn near certain that has something to do with Flemeth one way or another. At the end of Witch Hunt you can travel with Morrigan hells knows where (Beyond the fade, whatever that means). Given the events in Masked Empire this likely just means really effing far away. I'm curious why Morrigan ditched the potential OGB, and if the Warden followed her, him as well.
Now, if they weren't romanced/ect, then you can easily do the one night stand thing, or my favorite, 'married to the job' and just tell us to bugger off. Perfectly acceptable.
At the end of the day, it's just easier and consumes less of their limited resources to just not do anything with them. Also, pitchforks.
The answer is easy: Because there is more of their story to tell.
Well that sort of contradicts the first point now doesn’t it? If there is more to tell obviously the first romance didn’t tell a whole lot, not to mention if they’re supposed to be dead there shouldn't be anything to tell.
Well that sort of contradicts the first point now doesn’t it? If there is more to tell obviously the first romance didn’t tell a whole lot, not to mention if they’re supposed to be dead there shouldn't be anything to tell.
You don't need a romance to continue their story. Both women have had a lot happen over the last decade.
And Morrigan and Leliana weren't ever killed off(Morrigan falls into the Eluvian if stabbed and Leliana is left for dead in a room containing magic healing ashes), so they were never supposed to be dead.
Well that sort of contradicts the first point now doesn’t it? If there is more to tell obviously the first romance didn’t tell a whole lot, not to mention if they’re supposed to be dead there shouldn't be anything to tell.
The more to tell simply isn't of a romantic nature. It's been years since the first game, and Leliana was working with the Divine, as well as Cassandra to do... things that are kind of unclear.
Leliana is left for dead in a room containing magic healing ashes), so they were never supposed to be dead.
That's a pretty weak excuse; I'm pretty sure at the time your choice was supposed to mean her true death.
I could argue your other points but I really don't care enough I was just pointing out a plot hole.
That does beg the question of "Why are they in it altogether?" Based on this logic we've learned about the characters already and don't really need them here. Not to mention more than one was killable and adds to the fire "you choices don't matter" criticism, they've could of written new characters but they didn't.
Characters can do new things and tell new stories. It doesn't need to be romance content. In that there's stuff that we want to explore, create, and share as well.
I actually think it would be bad writing for Bioware to do that. Characters shouldn't just be there to be pimped out to the pc, they liked the warden but they obviously don't like the Inquisitor or are too busy with their own stuff to bother with him/her.
It really should be down to the character and I don't see either characters in a place to be in a romance. Leliana seems to have allot of issues atm and Morrigan was a complicated romance in Origins despite being very naive and inexperienced at the time, I don't think she would allow herself to be distracted by such things at this point.
Characters can do new things and tell new stories. It doesn't need to be romance content. In that there's stuff that we want to explore, create, and share as well.
Under that rationality the Characters themselves could change to the point where a romantic involvement could be completely different than from the first game.
But in the end they didn’t do it because they just didn’t want to which is rationality I’m fine with, I was just pointing out the hole in the been there done that argument .
But in the end they didn’t do it because they just didn’t want to which is rationality I’m fine with, I was just pointing out the hole in the been there done that argument .
There is no hole. It's a "we've explored that and have no inclination to do so again." David has literally stated this in the past.
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