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Cerberus is the worst thing to happen to the entire Mass Effect Franchise


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#76
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*ehm, ehm*

 

Mac Walters only wrote Kai Leng?



#77
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Mac Walters only wrote Kai Leng?

 

You said there was no mistake with ME3, but I think you forgot about this ninja guy.

 

Plus, his ME3 incarnation lives and breathes contrivance.



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Well, now I feel like a jerkass because I just realized that I mistook two black characters (the only two significant black characters) for each other. Man, now that's really going to be... unfortunate.
 
Who knows what the Council was trying to do to rationalize the Reapers and Saren and the Geth.
 
I think that was part of what BW was trying to show; the Council was trying to come up with an explanation to the whole shebang so that it wasn't as grim or terrifying as it appeared to be.


Wanna know what's even worse?

I thought: 'who's the second black guy???'

Oh yeah, right... Jacob -_-

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Well, now I feel like a jerkass because I just realized that I mistook two black characters (the only two significant black characters) for each other. Man, now that's really going to be... unfortunate.

 

Who knows what the Council was trying to do to rationalize the Reapers and Saren and the Geth.

 

I think that was part of what BW was trying to show; the Council was trying to come up with an explanation to the whole shebang so that it wasn't as grim or terrifying as it appeared to be.

 

It's okay, everyone is just a little bit racist.



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Jacob's that character that's hard to remember. He's practically Silence-level memory proof. When Shepard played Shattered Eezo against him, memory served that it was a solo match.



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Jacob's that character that's hard to remember. He's practically Silence-level memory proof. When Shepard played Shattered Eezo against him, memory served that it was a solo match.


It's rather odd, cause he's there every frigging time you finish a mission in ME2 to give you his opinion.

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It's rather odd, cause he's there every frigging time you finish a mission in ME2 to give you his opinion.

It's the only way he gets any screen time. 



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It's rather odd, cause he's there every frigging time you finish a mission in ME2 to give you his opinion.

 

Shepard: I always thought it was weird how EDI switched between a female and male voice.

 

Jacob: Shepard...I'm in the room with you.

 

Shepard: I really should ask EDI to stop messing with me like this. [leaves comm room]

 

Jacob: -_-'


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Do you guys remember that one time Jacob had his own video game?

 

http://en.wikipedia....s_Effect_Galaxy



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Shepard: I always thought it was weird how EDI switched between a female and male voice.

 

Jacob: Shepard...I'm in the room with you.

 

Shepard: I really should ask EDI to stop messing with me like this. [leaves comm room]

 

Jacob: -_-'

 

Probably relevant:

 

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#86
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Probably relevant:

 

One of the best. 



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It's rather odd, cause he's there every frigging time you finish a mission in ME2 to give you his opinion.

BioWare forced Jacob on me.

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'That is against the code...
All of that is against the code'

:D
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Got a good lol out of that one.



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This takes me back... Omega brothel. Just me and the boys, a few drinks, and some batarian whores.

I was the only one to make it out alive. 

 

Zaeed.  Survived a bullet to the head. Survived the omega-4 relay. Survived a night with batarian whores. Claw Addict. 



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I just realized Tali might die from eh.. eh.. the male human's output after eh... eh... physicalities.

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You can't deny the beautiful view that is Miranda. I fought the Collectors just to get some Miranda booty, FemShep or not. ;)
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To keep in line with this while still nearing the OT: (Oldie but goldie)

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#94
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lmao

 

That companion web search pic is amazing. 



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….They are able to find information or objects no one else has found in several thousands or even millions of years. They are able to hack geth, which no one has ever been able to do.

 

They are shown to be unfeasibly wealthy and powerful, being able to bring back deceased individuals to life and build more advanced warships than the best engineers of the galaxy's many species. Somehow, they were behind the construction of the first Normandy. The player character is killed with the specific purpose of demonstrating how capable the organization is. They are shown to be more than a match to the other species in the galaxy, despite the latter having a 2000 year headstart in terms of economy, technology and science. Meanwhile, humans have only been superluminal for about 30 years, and Cerberus has not existed for more than 20…..

 

 

This was one of the big issues I had with humanity in general, but Cerberus in particular in the ME trilogy. Humans are special. We're the best. Etc. I always found it odd that a racist/xenophobic black ops group; originally funded by one of the youngest space faring species in the galaxy; is able to make more advances in both military and scientific pursuits then the rest of the galaxy's civilizations put together. It would be like saying the KKK is able to develop cold fusion, and a cure for cancer while the rest of the world is just hitting their collective heads against a desk. I know that this is a game written by humans for humans, and that the 'Humanity is awesome' troupe is not limited to just ME, but the level of Mary Sue-edness that our species got in the games was ridiculous. 

 

From ME 1 (the most 'balanced' of all the games), where a human ambassador to the Citadel is given his own office; despite his species being only 30 years on the galactic scene. While the Volus and Elcor ambassadors have to share an office, despite both species being members of Citadel politics for at least 100 years longer then humanity. The drive to excel and persevere, is apparently a trait only available to humanity, seeing as how humans are able to advance in almost all areas despite just showing up.

 

This is continued in ME 2 with the whole 'genetic diversity' thing. Also, like the OP said, Cerberus (humans) being the only ones capable of hacking the Geth, or work out how to bring people back from the dead, or trace back evidence millions of years old to find unmistakeable proof of Reaper presence in the galaxy (IFF mission); apparently ingenuity is also a trait that only humans possess.

 

And in ME 3, even before the Reapers moved the Citadel to Earth. Even before we knew what the Crucible did. We are out recruiting allies so that we could Re-take Earth; as if our home-world was more important than any of the other species' planets.

 

 

It would be nice in future titles, if we could get a more balanced approach to the narrative, and explore the non-human side of the galaxy. Humanity should be a member of galactic society, not some 'Space Jesus' that all the other species look to for guidance.  


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I liked the idea of a Pro Human Alliance splinter group, I liked the role they played in ME1 and I liked ME2 efforts to show another side to the organisation but Cerebus should have never have been given such a large role in the ME games. I'm not exactly sure what the grand plan was for forcing Shepard to work with Cerebus in ME2 and it felt like ME3 was more about fighting Cerebus than it was fighting the Reapers.

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ME3 was more about fighting Cerebus than it was fighting the Reapers.

Because we can't fight the reapers, and there is no fight against them!



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It's okay, everyone is just a little bit racist.

 

I know. I would even go far enough to say that it's more justified than people would have us believe. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

 

It's when you start making negative discrimination and negative categorization that it starts to become a truly bad thing.



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I agree, no more Cerberus in ME please



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I know. I would even go far enough to say that it's more justified than people would have us believe. Stereotypes exist for a reason.
 
It's when you start making negative discrimination and negative categorization that it starts to become a truly bad thing.


It used to be useful/justified when meeting someone who wasn't part of your tribe was a huge risk possibly resulting in death. This is no longer the case, in most parts of the world.