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As a mostly heterosexual male, I feel I actually lucked out with Cass.
Jo is also my second choice and if I'm really lucky, I may get Viv as option as well.
Fail to see how I'm getting the short end of the stick here. Pretty chuffed in fact 
I have enough choices that i like for a me-like character, that I'm content to save Sera until I may my Qunari Mage.
Unfortunately I can't speak for Hetero ladies, so....
Correct me if I am wrong, but Bioware gets knocked for making all the characters in DA2 playersexual. Bioware goes back to having certain characters with set sexualities for DAI (with improvements) like they had in DAO and gamers still want to knock Bioware for that.
Bioware is not going to please everyone. What Bioware can do is try to be inclusive and fair to all the groups that buy their games. Having set sexualities also helps the writers when it comes to writing the character.
Bioware is not able to carter to everyone's personal tastes.
oh people are complaining about straight people getting the short end of the stick?
Yeah no. Everyone has one confirmed companion romance and one advisor romance. (well except gay men. They have 2 comps). That's pretty equal to me.
Bisexuals at most 6 and at least 5, depending if your a race gated from a particular romance. It's based on the assumption that they won't be gated to the same race/s.
I absolutely think Women should be made as representing women, and Men should represent men. Making the opposite sex fit the ideal of a romance partner is 1) dehumanizing(both as characters and to that gender) 2) Unrealistic in the sense that people will feel they are there for eyecandy. And also makes the idea that the characters are just there to be romanced as that is what they are built around. 3) Representation means that YOU are represented. meaning straight women act like straight women, straight men act like straight men. I do think both should reveal the power fantasies of that gender to some degree.
the romances are made with them in mind, so A straight woman romance will consider a guy is on the other side, but that doesn't mean to change Cassandra into fitting what a guy wants (that isn't a dynamic character which is what is wrong with many dating sims actually)
Also, during the Cullen romance, people will realize a woman is on the other side of the relationship and make content that reflects that, but doesn't change him to suit those needs.
Bisexuals at most 6 and at least 5, depending if your a race gated from a particular romance. It's based on the assumption that they won't be gated to the same race/s.
Saying bisexuals get more options is like saying water is wet. If you don't limit yourself of course you get more options. There is no option whatsover that the LIs can be split into that wouldn't result in bisexuals having more options. But yes they get more. I for some reason didn't realize that needed to be clarified.
Saying bisexuals get more options is like saying water is wet. If you don't limit yourself of course you get more options. There is no option whatsover that the LIs can be split into that wouldn't result in bisexuals having more options. But yes they get more. I for some reason didn't realize that needed to be clarified.
Fair point
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Totally cool with whatever they include in terms of romantic inclusion, as far as a product is concerned. BW is going through back-flips to make sure no one is left out and I really do think they're going to pull it off flawlessly, or at least without the losses that they figured in already. The thing is, some folks are going to want something that the game's not able to give. If I'm looking to validate my self-image in any form, a video game isn't going to be enough. To ask it is unreasonable. To ask for an awesome game as a lesbian qunari mage with an eye toward the sassy elf lass is a worthy goal and I can't wait to play it. To say that since I was forced to endure Maker only knows how many hours of watching Alistair stroke up his ego so he could be king I should get a free pass on anything is ridiculous. I think it's a good idea to give credit where it's due and they did good on this one as far as I'm concerned.
I thought we settled this after a number of threads moaning about how Sera is gay got locked.
Bioware have provided options for everyone, if you don't like the options available to you then you have the same choices you always had
These are the same options gamers have always had when a Bioware game didn't let them romance someone they wanted to in their own gender.
OP, I am really sorry you don't like your options, but you might yet change your mind. Before DA 2 I was sure I will be romancing Anders the most and wasn't one bit interested in Fenris. As of today I have 2 romances with Anders, 1 with Merrill, 1 with Isabela and.. or, I don't know... 10 or more with Fenris.
Btw, I am straight female, but I play male heroes also (about 1 out of 3 playthroughs) and M + M romances sometimes as well. Never did F + F so far, but who knows... Sera might tempt me depending how interesting I'll find her in the game. Just wait and see how you feel after actually playing.
so the gist i got the original OP was in my head "wah, wah, i dont get to romance people the way i want, wah, wah" ¬_¬ honestly, be happy that bioware has worked as hard as they have to give you as many options as this, i mean, this is the most romance options ive ever seen in a bioware game and you seem more discontent to moan about there being 2 openly gay characters in your party that you cant romance becuase 'your not gay', fine, thats perfectly fine, its not like anyone is forcing you to become gay to romance these characters, its called roleplaying, i intend to romance everyone at least once and im not gay/bi, i just want to get the most out of the game and if that means me roleplaying someone im not, then im ok with that, because its just a game and it has no real effect on my life unless i let it
Oh,
I am quite happy with what they have shown us so far - believe me - at least as far as gameplay (and even story - for the few glimpses we have seen of that) is concerned.
Yes, romances may only be a small part of a game such as Dragon Age, but for me it is one of the most important parts, because well thought out romances are what sets Bioware games appart from other RPG-Games (take the Witcher for example, sex is much "cheaper" there, romances (at least well thought out ones) don't happen at all 
- maybe in the new Witcher-Game (I don't know, I am more interested in Dragon Age...though I will probably play the new Witcher-Game, because there aren't that many RPGs on the market and IMHO you have to take what you can get)) - and that is why it is so dissapointing that they are - for me at least - going backwards with:
- Gender-Restrictions (I thought that was one of the only things DA2 did right, give us freedom with the romances)
- Race-Restrictions (yes, they might make sense story where the story is concerned - but Bioware could explain that default the character is like that, but for the players the restriction does not apply (sounds cheap - maybe, but it's better then dissapointing fans IMHO))
- Class-Restrictions (there aren't any, but they might happen in the future...could have imagined Cassy not letting any mage close for example...same for Cullen)
Call it stupid - Call it whining for all I care (sorry, being frank here), but I am not really satisfied and I just wanted to voice that (call me entitled, too...have heard it all before, and from a certain perspective it might be true, too - but I do not really care overly much, I am just voicing my oppinion (and that is what a FORUM - especially one for feedback and suggestions - is for...or am I that misstaken?))
greetings LAX
ps: I even grant you, that the Cassy-romance might blow me away (I will gladly say I am sorry then...maybe they did better than DA:O or ME1...let's hope so, for all our sake (and fun and satisfaction)) or that "Scribbles" might be who really catches my eye (I tend to like intelligent women and diplomats normally are not stupid 
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I just wish these arguments weren't entirely based on personal preferences and not liking the current choices you have.
I also wish people wouldn't cry "Of course your a straight white male."
Or "LGBT are a minority!"
Or 'Let's be inclusive!'
I only wish Bioware has made the characters the way they are, and links their romance options to said characters desires (I.E. Sera is a lesbian, it's who she is, love it or don't.) with out having to 'twist' it to meet some arbitrary 'balancing' act people demand they are entitled too.
I also wish for a bag of gummy bears.
I much prefer them having set sexual orientations rather then have their characters cheapened.
What was Meredith's sexuality? Was she a cheap character? What about Orsino? Zathriel? The Arishok? Sister Petrice? Grand Cleric Elthina? Velanna? Sigrun?
This is a meaningless statement. What is a "cheap" character, anyway?
I just wish these arguments weren't entirely based on personal preferences and not liking the current choices you have.
I also wish people wouldn't cry "Of course your a straight white male."
Or "LGBT are a minority!"
Or 'Let's be inclusive!'
I only wish Bioware has made the characters the way they are, and links their romance options to said characters desires (I.E. Sera is a lesbian, it's who she is, love it or don't.) with out having to 'twist' it to meet some arbitrary 'balancing' act people demand they are entitled too.
I also wish for a bag of gummy bears.
They were never romances!!!! A character who lacks definition Is "cheap." Isabela has that. She's Bi and it shows in dao and da2(see banter with Bethany). Merril does not. She shows absolutely no interest in either gender, except for when she shows up at Hawke's ready to show her wield ass neck.What was Meredith's sexuality? Was she a cheap character? What about Orsino? Zathriel? The Arishok? Sister Petrice? Grand Cleric Elthina? Velanna? Sigr
This is a meaningless statement. What is a "cheap" character, anyway?
They were never romances!!!! A character who lacks definition Is "cheap." Isabela has that. She's Bi and it shows in dao and da2(see banter with Bethany). Merril does not. She shows absolutely no interest in either gender, except for when she shows up at Hawke's ready to show her wield ass neck.
So a character has to explicitly state to you what their sexuality is or you think they are cheap? Okay then. Have fun with that opinion. Ambiguity isn't always a bad thing you know.....
OP is giving the characters a chance. That is great to hear. No telling if Josie would actually be the best personality over everyone else for you or *change name to someone else, doesnt have to be her*. She is the one I would romance, cause she is top of my list. Cassie, Vivie and Sera will be later options. After the females, will explore Iron Bulls arc, not sure if I will consider Dorian, and still cant consider Cullen. I have to see what he is like now that its been awhile. Not hating him, just, he's a templar, they I don't care for.
How is the BLAZING heck can you possibly interpret "Bioware gave me options I don't like" as "straight players are getting screwed"?
Deal with it.
Well, I was goin to say something differently but after reading OP's response on last page, I changed my mind. Mind if I troll your post instead?
I am hoping to be screwed in DA:I.
But because of one person's tastes, apparently now ALL straight men are screwed. *rolls eyes*
Well, I will just like your post. I wont go there twice now. Sorry. Ugh.. same thing. I did have something to add till I got to last page. I was siding with yours and the above post to like both.
I dunno man, I'm a guy and I'm pretty damn stoked about the variety that has been shown in the romances so far. The Dorian reveal even made me think about turning my traditional first "straight male human warrior-playthrough" into a "gay male human warrior-playthrough", but I haven't given up hope for Vivienne yet. If she's a romance, she'll be the first one in Inquisition for me.
All in all, most people on the forums seem pretty excited about the romances so far, and since probability would suggest that most people here are also straight, I would say that most straight people don't seem to feel that they are getting the short end of the stick.
If its going 4m and 4f to keep balance and equality. Vivienne is a given as an LI, otherwise it would be unfair.
I will be romancing all the available women as different characters, no issue to me. My character's I roll for them will be their own person as best as I can make them into. Only one male so far I would take a look at, Bulls. From what I understand he's going to be hilarious with Sera.
Hey, I'm not exactly thrilled by the straight male romance options so far either, but it's BW's game and not mine. If I don't like any romances, I'm not gonna do any.
It's not like romance is the only aspect of the game (and I wish some people here got that
Pretty much this. I freely admit I don't like a lot of the character design so far (poor, poor Cass) but it wouldn't be the first time I didn't care for the straight male options. Looking at you, DA2. Pirate wench and borderline insane blood mage? Thanks awfully.
I just wish these arguments weren't entirely based on personal preferences and not liking the current choices you have.
I also wish people wouldn't cry "Of course your a straight white male."
Or "LGBT are a minority!"
Or 'Let's be inclusive!'
I only wish Bioware has made the characters the way they are, and links their romance options to said characters desires (I.E. Sera is a lesbian, it's who she is, love it or don't.) with out having to 'twist' it to meet some arbitrary 'balancing' act people demand they are entitled too.
I also wish for a bag of gummy bears.
Bioware also has to impose "arbitrary" restrictions on how many mages, warriors, and rogues they have in the party. They have a laundry list of seemingly arbitrary conditions that they need to meet for their party characters. It's the job of the writers to make those decisions feel organic and cohesive in the end.
Bioware also has to impose "arbitrary" restrictions on how many mages, warriors, and rogues they have in the party. They have a laundry list of seemingly arbitrary conditions that they need to meet for their party characters. It's the job of the writers to make those decisions feel organic and cohesive in the end.
It's amazing to me how many people were thrilled by the even distribution of classes or gender but then disparage an even distribution of sexualities...... How is one "unrealistic" and the others not?
So a character has to explicitly state to you what their sexuality is or you think they are cheap? Okay then. Have fun with that opinion. Ambiguity isn't always a bad thing you know.....
Don't twist my words.
I'm sorry, I thought that I accurately represented your statement. My understanding of your stance is that if a romanceable character doesn't explicitly state their sexuality to you, then their character is cheapened. If that's not accurate, can you clarify where I am misunderstanding?
"Unless they try to chat me up."
Jeezus Christ.
You aren't worth it.
They were never romances!!!! A character who lacks definition Is "cheap." Isabela has that. She's Bi and it shows in dao and da2(see banter with Bethany). Merril does not. She shows absolutely no interest in either gender, except for when she shows up at Hawke's ready to show her wield ass neck.
She shows a lack of interest in Carver though, and an Interest towards Isabela's Isabelaness, she thought Aveline and Whatshisface were cute together, she mentions Hawkes romance if it isn't her in banter, She says shes fond of Hawke in act one banter depending on Hawkes relationship with her.
Merrill shows a lot about her "sexuality"(I'd argue more than Anders and Fenris) just not a solid gender preference. which is not all that your sexuality is.
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