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Has a character death ever knocked the wind out of you?


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Mordin's sacrifice. I didn't tell them about the Dalatrass' offer on the airship. I questioned if Mordin wanted to do it the whole way. Mordin kept giving me a rebuttal about how the Genophage needs to end. I personally trust Wrex and Eve, but not the rest of the Krogan. I was hesitant to say the least about undoing the Genophage. Anyways when the time came I couldn't stop Mordin. Then when I met Wrex and Eve they are hailing me as the main hero? That made it even more bitter. I was sad Mordin died, now I feel guilty as hell because I was dishonest with Wrex and Eve and they think I'm a hero when Mordin stood up to Shepard(me) without hesitation, and Wrex is just like "oh yeah Mordin I guess we will name a kid after him... but Shepard you're the real BRO". The whole Tuchanka mission was amazing from storytelling to roleplaying.

 

The destroy ending. Questionable writing aside. I was really upset about committing genocide on a race especially after my experience with Mordin on Tuchanka. I felt like by saving the Geth I kind of redeemed myself for my Tuchanka antics. Well that atonement was for nothing. Now on a more personal note, I was really upset EDI died. She saved my life and my crew's countless times. EDI to me felt like a younger family member who looked up to you. Whenever she had a tough question that a superreapercomputerwhateversheis couldn't figure out, she asked you about what she should do. I thought that was flattering as hell. I really like EDI I trusted her from the moment we met in ME2 and she had always came through for me and proved my faith in her correct.

 

 

Those two stick out to me the most in BioWare games. The Dragon Age series has really yet to knock the wind out of me. Bethany's death was pretty shocking though. But I think the fact her or Carver dies based off of your class choice kind of diminishes their deaths to me. Daveth, Jory, Duncan and Cailan all dieing in a span of 40 minutes or so was shocking as well. But I wasn't invested into the story/setting that much yet, so I didn't really appreciate their deaths until I had completed the game. Leandra getting turned into a zombie bride would of been a bigger moment to me if it wasn't foreshadowed to hell and back.



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I've never quite gotten over the brutal death of Pac-Man at the hands of those 4 ghostly hooligans.

 

On a serious note, the wiping out of the Couslands and their 'staff' caught me off guard. Each character was unique yet very familiar. There was an endearing cohesiveness about it all. And then bam, just about everyone you met and liked has been killed. Its quite jarring and effective in the same instant. At that point, you get the idea that just about anyone you meet, however important, is in jeopardy. And not too long later, Duncan, your wise, capable and effective mentor gets his head (and his beard) separated from the rest of him, and you know then its on!   



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I hate tragedy and frequently spoil myself to remove impacts like this, so it happens less often than it might. I was utterly enraged by Leandra's death being unavoidable, though.



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Mordin Solus is probably the most powerful one. Legion's is right up there too.


I agree with Magister Caedus' regarding The Walking Dead:

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I have a best friend who is a self-proclaimed "tough guy". I kept telling him that I knew the end of the Walking Dead was going to gut me and since I rarely ever shed a tear, he made a huge deal out of watching me play so that he could see me "wuss out".

As I cried openly at the "goodbye" scene, the only bright side was seeing my friend sob worse than me hah. His only words were, "I won't tell if you won't." Of course, I emailed, texted and called everyone promptly.

But yeah, very emotional decision and scene. It literally stayed with me for hours. First ever.
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Hmm... Have I ever been upset over a characters death...

I know Black Ops 1 (or 2) had a weird storyline that had you playing through the game with a man who actually died and in the end Mason (the PC - I think that was his name) was screaming for Viktor (the guy who sacrificed himself to free Mason)? That made me upset.

In DA games... Uhh... Nope. The scene with Hawke's mum had me gasping for breath because of how funny it was. Honestly couldn't take Hawke seriously. 

Lucien Lachance dying left me sad but I don't think I shed a tear. 

I can't really think of any character death where I openly cried. I sobbed when people died in Harry Potter if that counts?



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Yes to some books, a couple of tv shows, and the ending of Telltale's The Walking Dead Season 1.
 
Most video game character deaths I can appreciate in a detached-let's-deconstruct-the-writing way, but I don't feel much.  If it's nicely done, I admire the work (ME3's Wrex).  If it feels rushed or lazy, I usually stop playing. 



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I dunno about knocking the wind out of me, since I'm generally desensitized to character death in general, but I did not expect so many seemingly important characters to bite the big one in DA:O in the very beginning of the game.

 

Is that a good thing? A bad thing? Or neither?

 

In your eyes of course.

 

 

OT: Nothing even remotely close to Shepards demise in ME3



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Spoiler's just in case...

 

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Katriel is the only DA one I can think of that had THAT much of an impact on me.

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I remeber such a moment from ME3, when I thought that Grunt fell in battle. I have a soft spot for all Krogans, espesially Grunt and Wrex, so it was a very nasty, unexpected, but short (thank the Maker!) moment for me and my Sheppard. 

 

Damn, you're right!  When Grunt climbed out of there covered in gore but blessedly alive, that was a great moment. 

 

I can't believe I forgot Legion's death.  For me, that was right up there with Mordin.  I always wonder now if my being first introduced to the Geth through Legion in ME2 impacted how I felt about them as a race, compared to most people who would have been introduced to them in ME.  It's what makes choosing the Destroy option so difficult for me.



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Though it's not death as we know it, but tainting the Water Dragon body in Jade Empire was such a horrible scene that the one time i made that choice (tainting the water dragon "a god" and taking her powers) i actually couldn't watch it to the end, i turned off my xbox mid scene, restared then chose the other option
it just felt so wrong
 
Modrin's death was really sad
Legion's death only effects me if he is killed by me and tali, the last question he asks, and tali's answer..

I've seen videos of Tail killing herself if i sided with the geth, well, no way in hell i could ever do it, just watching the video made me tear up
 
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i hope we won't add new deaths when Inquisition is out, though to be honest death does give value and depth to stories : (


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Oh god I forgot to add that one on my list. :crying:  Yeah I was done with videogames for the day after that.



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Mordin and Legion.

 

Other than that, hmmm...

 

The ending of Dreamfall: The Longest Journey. Sigh.



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Not really. In movies I loved Boromir's sacrifice, and a few other deaths were good in movies (I can't think of specific ones at the moment). In books there are tons of awesome emotional moments (especially in the Malazan series', amongst others). In games there hasn't really been any moments were I felt really emotional. Even the Ash/Kaidan choice was just I am romancing Ash so I gotta pick her. Subsequent playthroughs were, of course, planned long in advance. In DA there certainly haven't been any emotional moments. In the Human Noble origin when what's her name gets shot that was unexpected and surprising, but hardly emotional (I knew her for all of 5 minutes after-all). Duncan was expected, and I did the Dark Ritual the first few run throughs anyway. In DA2 Anders going batcrap crazy was totally unexpected and made me want to kill him, but that's mostly because the situation was stupid, and there were no choices to do anything meaningful in the entire game (apart from potentially saving a single sibling and companions, everyone who dies will die regardless of your actions). The Walking Dead was fun (up until I realized there were actually zero choices in the game, and everything turns out the exact same no matter what you do throughout the game), but not terribly emotional. I knew the MC was gonna die long before he did and that takes away the surprise and impact.

 

For some reason no video game has really inspired an emotional moment for me yet, only other media has. If we're lucky (or unlucky as the case may be) DAI will have some emotional moments.



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Not really. Not that I hated the characters but it was tragic enough.



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I have to say Aerith from Final Fantasy 7 as predictable as that may be.  I was young at the time and not used to someone dying like that in a game.  It was rare back then. heh



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First fictional character death that got to me was Sturm Brightblade from Dragonlance. It was a truely heroic death, the description extremely well executed.
That the mother of his child was the one responsible added so much to the irony and drama.

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First fictional character death that got to me was Sturm Brightblade from Dragonlance. It was a truely heroic death, the description extremely well executed.
That the mother of his child was the one responsible added so much to the irony and drama.

 

But did you even know they had a kid at that point?  That is never even brought up in that run of books is it?  That came later.



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Yeah, for me it was Mass Effect 3's Control ending, saw it just once, never played the campaign again ever since.

 

I was petrified as I was watching my canon Shepard, a character that I had played the role of for about 4 years of my life, literally being electrocuted to death. There was absolutely nothing that prepared me to that (yes, I did "expect" at that point that my Shepard wouldn't survive, but nothing prepared me to that sort of death). I am not joking, after the end of the credits I stared... speechless and confused at the screen, for a good five minutes or so. I then felt nauseous and disgusted. I had no actual physical pain per say but I felt like I had just been through a dozen roller coaster rides in a row without a break right after I'd ate diner only to finally stand up and receiving a really powerful punch to the gut out of nowhere. It was like I was feeling the symptoms of all that. I felt like I had my stomach going upside down and just couldn't stand up nor find an actual emotion to express. It's like I was emotionally-numb (if that's even possible) and physically paralyzed by an external force. To be honest it's a feeling that I had never felt before and I don't want to ever feel that again in my life, it was horrifying.

 

It's a lesson learned, however.

 

Indeed, a fair warning to anyone out there whom perhaps felt something similar as I did (for any characters in your own video gaming history, doesn't have to be Shepard or ME3 specifically). If you can, if you're fast enough and prepare yourself mentally in advance, then do try NOT to involve yourselves emotionally into fantasy worlds, especially not for / with / as fictional characters. You know why? It's very simple, because - one day sooner rather than later - there's going to be a writer out there who won't give a rat's arse about that emotional "link" of yours and WILL consider that character's story just like "another numbered case on the desk" in his or her career, and WILL tear apart your little paradigm like a hyena voraciously devouring its prey alive, and you'll have to watch it as it happens. And when something like that happens, after the dust falls and you've cried an ocean out of your chest (figuratively or literally), you then shake your head and think something probably along the line of "oh why, how could I be dumb enough to emotionally invest myself into this?!". That's when you have to stand up, open the window and look at the real world around you and take a breath of fresh air.

 

Sounds melodramatic? Wait until it happens to you...

 

It's not supposed to happen though, at least according to some developers out there (and to some gamers, too). Indeed, we're supposed to not be humans and just see a video game for what it supposedly "only and really is", a game. Yep, no emotions, just "a game". What I can answer to that is this; then stop making good storylines and great characters? No? Just give us millions of unimportant Doom Guys and just dumbly-funny Duke Nukems all over the place, or overly simplistic rivalries à la Scorpion and Sub-Zero and THEN maybe we'll be able not to "fall in love" with your characters or we'll then finally be able to not form fictional friendships with them, or we'll stop imagining or giving more life to those created universes in our "fan minds". If we're supposed to not "cry about those things" then developers really need to think twice before crafting game worlds and writing deeply fleshed-out characters along with their respective stories. I think that some of them out there need to watch that great movie called Misery, then maybe they'll understand better. You don't just "kill" a character and expect gamers (whom are humans, by the way, not machines) to go "huh, my character is dead? oh well... *looks at the watch* wow crap I almost forgot it's my favorite T.V show right now!". I mean, really? Really?



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But did you even know they had a kid at that point?  That is never even brought up in that run of books is it?  That came later.


No, I did not. The whole irony had a delayed impact, but made the scene that much stronger in retrospect.

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Leandra, Legion, Mission Vao (if you were evil),and probably a couple more.



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Oh, and even though I got it spoiled for me, I cried hysterically when Mordin was about to die/when he died. I was gasping for air, sobbing uncontrollably. It was a sad sight. XD

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Leandra, Legion, Mission Vao (if you were evil),and probably a couple more.


You see, a lot of people found Leandra's "death" sad, but not me. I was too disgusted to find it sad. And I don't mean horrible, I mean DISGUSTING.

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Yes. Mass effect 3 had mordin and thane, which gave me pause and made me feel those things people tell me are feelings in my heart. Didn't last long, but it was a bigger reaction then most.

 

It'll be hard to duplicate such an event. Mass effect benefited by having a game and a half of interaction with the characters spanning a couple years. This game does not have that time for me to get truly invested in the characters or their survival to the point it has real life effects on players.



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Doctor Who - in 'Journey's End' when the Doctor says good-bye to Donna...who wanted nothing more than to 'travel with that man forever'...


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