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Jawzzus

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Polishing is nice, but when do they burn the game to DVD/ Bluray (on 5 different consoles mind you)? AKA when does it go gold? they won´t have to november the 18 right? i don´t know how long it takes to copy the game to discs, but it is a somewhat long process? or is it just like a week? :S

 

It'll probably go gold end of October, if they hadn't pushed it back it'd have to go gold end of Sept, so this gives them all of October to work



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Polishing is nice, but when do they burn the game to DVD/ Bluray (on 5 different consoles mind you)? AKA when does it go gold? they won´t have to november the 18 right? i don´t know how long it takes to copy the game to discs, but it is a somewhat long process? or is it just like a week? :S

 

You're correct that the game will go gold (and actually certification comes first) a few weeks (the exact time varies between games) before the November 18th date, but that was still true with the October 7th date, so we do get the full extra 6 weeks of development time, offset from what would have been the original cert date.


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Polishing is nice, but when do they burn the game to DVD/ Bluray (on 5 different consoles mind you)? AKA when does it go gold? they won´t have to november the 18 right? i don´t know how long it takes to copy the game to discs, but it is a somewhat long process? or is it just like a week? :S

 

Usually two-three months before release the gold process begins, from what I understand. My guess is this will happen in early September now instead of August, to early October the latest. 



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I approve. Take your time, BioWare.



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Having read the linked article I can get the main premise is based on physical distribution,however it skirts around the digital distribution argument and does not provide a valid reason why I as a UK customer can preload my digital deluxe copy of DAI on the same day as a customer from the USA and yet the American customer can play on the 18th but I am forced to wait till the 21st.Maybe EA should give its EU customers a 10% rebate/discount for stubbornly refusing  to treat its EU digital customers equally its effectively discrimination by location as there is not one justifiable reason for imposing this delay on digital customers.


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Having read the linked article I can get the main premise is based on physical distribution,however it skirts around the digital distribution argument and does not provide a valid reason why I as a UK customer can preload my digital deluxe copy of DAI on the same day as a customer from the USA and yet the American customer can play on the 18th but I am forced to wait till the 21st.Maybe EA should give its EU customers a 10% rebate/discount for stubbornly refusing  to treat its EU digital customers equally its effectively discrimination by location as there is not one justifiable reason for imposing this delay on digital customers.

 

You realize it's not just EA right?  It's every game company/distributor.  So demanding EA give a discount wouldn't really matter.


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If it makes you feel any better, I'll be abroad til late December (Not as long, I know, but same problem)  And its hard to say we world travelers are so misfortunate.

 

If it makes you both feel better, I'll be picking the game up launch day and play/enjoy it for both of you.



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Having read the linked article I can get the main premise is based on physical distribution,however it skirts around the digital distribution argument and does not provide a valid reason why I as a UK customer can preload my digital deluxe copy of DAI on the same day as a customer from the USA and yet the American customer can play on the 18th but I am forced to wait till the 21st.Maybe EA should give its EU customers a 10% rebate/discount for stubbornly refusing  to treat its EU digital customers equally its effectively discrimination by location as there is not one justifiable reason for imposing this delay on digital customers.

 

That's pretty much to not angar the brick and mortar guys. If a game was available digitally before they could sell it in stores, there's a good chance they'd retaliate by giving the game poor in-store exposure. Digital sales are important, but don't underestimate the "my nephew wants a new game for his Gamebox Nintendo" crowd wandering into stores and picking up what looks shiny.


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Having read the linked article I can get the main premise is based on physical distribution,however it skirts around the digital distribution argument and does not provide a valid reason why I as a UK customer can preload my digital deluxe copy of DAI on the same day as a customer from the USA and yet the American customer can play on the 18th but I am forced to wait till the 21st.Maybe EA should give its EU customers a 10% rebate/discount for stubbornly refusing  to treat its EU digital customers equally its effectively discrimination by location as there is not one justifiable reason for imposing this delay on digital customers.

Because that is an unfair thing to do to physical good stores that you create a partnership with. 


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This makes me wonder just how bad the game would have been if it released last fall.


An excellent question; just HOW BAD can this game possibly be?
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Having read the linked article I can get the main premise is based on physical distribution,however it skirts around the digital distribution argument and does not provide a valid reason why I as a UK customer can preload my digital deluxe copy of DAI on the same day as a customer from the USA and yet the American customer can play on the 18th but I am forced to wait till the 21st.Maybe EA should give its EU customers a 10% rebate/discount for stubbornly refusing  to treat its EU digital customers equally its effectively discrimination by location as there is not one justifiable reason for imposing this delay on digital customers.

Unfair competition. Retailers of physical copies would lose even more sales if a European digital copy of the game gives access on the same day as in the US. You may think it is great you can then play the game three days earlier but it is once again a loss of jobs. Enough jobs have been lost already thanks to the advance in technology to the point we will eventually live in a society eerily similar to that of Hollywood movies, with most people being out of a job because there simply aren't any left.



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If it makes you both feel better, I'll be picking the game up launch day and play/enjoy it for both of you.

^_^ Enjoy, I'll be doing my best not spoil myself for the next month after.



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Now I need ice cream, lots of it. :'(



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Hmph, that means I have to wait all the way until TCU gameday before DA:I release day. That adds ... five more games. Oh well, it means I'll have less of football season to distract me, but we are getting to the holidays and that means family distractions. At least this isn't my side of the family's year to do the annual Thanksgiving feast. ^_^

 

It's important to think about these things in advance and always look on the bright side ...



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Bryan Johnson

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Now I need ice cream, lots of it. :'(

Sorry you are a bit too far away for me to send you some :(



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Unfair competition. Retailers of physical copies would lose even more sales if a European digital copy of the game gives access on the same day as in the US. You may think it is great you can then play the game three days earlier but it is once again a loss of jobs. Enough jobs have been lost already thanks to the advance in technology to the point we will eventually live in a society eerily similar to that of Hollywood movies, with most people being out of a job because there simply aren't any left.

Or the stores can just start selling the physical copies on tuesdays as well. It's not that they receive all the game copies on the day before release day...

 

Plenty of online stores send out those copies a couple of days before fridays so you'd get them on a tuesday or wednesday. Console players can start playing right away in those cases... Unfair competition?



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Now I need ice cream, lots of it. :'(

 

Sorry you are a bit too far away for me to send you some :(

 

 

Is it the distance that is the issue or the melting?  :whistle:



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Sad to log in and see this news.....

But.....I'm OK ....it's polishing....maybe then it won't be as buggy as me3.
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Will have to change my time off request tomorrow. Good thing about this.....hunting season and hubs will be out of town.....no need to go get a hotel room now for uninterrupted play.

Plus time for civilization and destiny now.

Also....good decision since it puts the release closer to the holiday shop-fest.

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How broken would the game have been if they had to ship by Oct 7? Is Frostbite that big of a pain in the ass? Like the two games EA were shipping on that engine were delayed so that has to have something to do with it. 

 

Also I'd rather that Triple A publishers not announce a release date until they are sure the team can hit it. It comes off as just a vague number to drive up pre orders whenever they play the Delay for polish card. Every bloody publisher does this & no matter how many times it happens it's still as annoying as the last.  (WATCH DOGS!)   

 

Don't get me wrong I don't want my games to be broken at launch (BF4!) just to meet a deadline, if it needs an extension for Bug fixing then do it. But could you not announce a Date MONTHS before release, wait until said release date if breathing down your neck then go "Delay!" Just feels like I'm being jerked around. 



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People accuse us of feeling jerked around without a release date too.



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Well I suppose it gives me more time before I have to go about purchasing an xbox one.



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How broken would the game have been if they had to ship by Oct 7? Is Frostbite that big of a pain in the ass? Like the two games EA were shipping on that engine were delayed so that has to have something to do with it. 

 

Also I'd rather that Triple A publishers not announce a release date until they are sure the team can hit it. It comes off as just a vague number to drive up pre orders whenever they play the Delay for polish card. Every bloody publisher does this & no matter how many times it happens it's still as annoying as the last.  (WATCH DOGS!)   

 

Don't get me wrong I don't want my games to be broken at launch (BF4!) just to meet a deadline, if it needs an extension for Bug fixing then do it. But could you not announce a Date MONTHS before release, wait until said release date if breathing down your neck then go "Delay!" Just feels like I'm being jerked around. 

 

Wait..you'd rather it be delayed a week or two before it's about to come out instead of a couple months?  The logistic nightmare that would cause alone would be crazy.



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How broken would the game have been if they had to ship by Oct 7? Is Frostbite that big of a pain in the ass? Like the two games EA were shipping on that engine were delayed so that has to have something to do with it. 

 

Also I'd rather that Triple A publishers not announce a release date until they are sure the team can hit it. It comes off as just a vague number to drive up pre orders whenever they play the Delay for polish card. Every bloody publisher does this & no matter how many times it happens it's still as annoying as the last.  (WATCH DOGS!)   

 

Don't get me wrong I don't want my games to be broken at launch (BF4!) just to meet a deadline, if it needs an extension for Bug fixing then do it. But could you not announce a Date MONTHS before release, wait until said release date if breathing down your neck then go "Delay!" Just feels like I'm being jerked around. 

Its hard to say how broken something would be without having a bench mark to compare it to. A characters hair clipping through their shoulder may be considered broken to some, whereas the game crashing on boot is broken to others. 

 

As for not announcing then you would inevitably leaked because you have to communicate outwards anyways. Something like you cant just go up to first party and say okay our game is ready to be release test it now please. Or go to a disc manufacturer and say, here you go please print us 4million copies. Then go to the stores and say here you go here is our game sell it please. 

 

The crazy thing is no matter what until the game is in stores, you cant say for 100% certainty when it is released. Pretty much everything in life has a release date, and if it didnt then people would question things way too much. Also almost every facet misses their dates. 

 

If a bridge in your town is to be closed for 2 months, do you expect it to be back open in 2 months?


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People accuse us of feeling jerked around without a release date too.

Sorry if I came off as an entitled Douche but for me personally, a Launch window would be preferable than an exact date that's later changed. It's a pet peeve of mine as it seems to always happen for every game I get invested in.   



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Just say, "An extra six weeks will guarantee the game will be absolutely un-DA2."  That should soothe the savage beast.