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#76
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They did, though the only ones that come to mind are sterility and, in Geralt's case due to further experimentation, his hair turning white.

 

I don't think their emotions were affected though.

 I could be wrong like I said its been a while since I read the last wish/blood of elves, but like I said I think the VA is not really that bad for Geralt, how do people expect the VA to be exactly?



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there emotions were affected to make them monster killing machines, no fear no emotion no nothing...Geralt is a bit different

None of the Witchers I read about in the first book fit that description at all.  Actually most of them seemed more expressive than Geralt, going by memory.



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 I could be wrong like I said its been a while since I read the last wish/blood of elves, but like I said I think the VA is not really that bad for Geralt, how do people expect the VA to be exactly?

Not to deliver every line with the same flat tone?  



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None of the Witchers I read about in the first book fit that description at all.  Actually most of them seemed more expressive than Geralt, going by memory.

 

You also have to consider though he has lost his memory in the first two games, you wouldn't expect yourself to be how you previously were if your memory is shot right.



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You also have to consider though he has lost his memory in the first two games, you wouldn't expect yourself to be how you previously were if your memory is shot right.

Sure, but having a greater emotional range than the average potted plant would be nice.

I think I might remember what your thinking about. Triss accuses Geralt of blaming the experiments for his emotional distance while in reality it wasn't the experiments, just Geralt.

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Haven't read the books, but my girfriend has. From what she told me Geralt is described as showing little to no emotion in his speech.

Will most likely play with Polish voices and English subtitles, just like I did in the two previous games. Gave them a much better feel to me.



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As previous posters suggested, no its not a competition.

 

CD Projekt does make decent games, they however have no titles in my game library, nor anybody I know owns one of their titles. I see more Bioware on their shelves than CDP. I think its cause of replayability, which is what I know most seek for games of those people I know.

 

Still waiting for the Keep, so I can get my pregame builds setup for DAI. :)



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Not sure why think CDPR Witcher games have less re-playability, they have a vastly better branching system than Bioware games have. An example would be between act one and act two of TW2 the plot branching based on player choice has a vastly greater effect than any Bioware game. Based on that choice you potentially start act 2 in an entirely different region, on an entirely different side doing entirely different quests, different interactions with characters and meeting of new people would not meet or had same interactions with if chose otherwise. The choice/consequence system in TW2 was superior to ME1/ME2/ME3/DA2 and even DA:O, this equates to higher replay value as different choices have greater impact.

 

If it was put in the context of a Bioware plot or game it would be akin to choosing to side with the alliance or cerberus and the rest of the game everything is centered and experienced in an opposing manner to the other side. In a Bioware game however at least to date you are not given such a hugely impactive choice prior to the endings and you would have that choice made for you and be forced to as shown before work for cerberus against your will in the case of ME2 for the entirety of the game up until your final choice in the last 5 minutes of gameplay. If was in the context of TW2 though for example you the player would of been given that choice to make whether continue to work for alliance or change sides and work for cerberus, the plot, interactions and more would be different based on that choice giving you a huge alternative perspective and different story and interactions for the remainder of the game.

 

The scale of the plot branching, player freedom and impact of the choice and consequences of decisions was one of the things I left feedback for after DA:2 in which I hoped Bioware would take on board and learn from CDPR to improve the re-playability and quality of DA:I because without question and without doubt CDPR with TW2 did it better than Bioware's pre-DA:I games. It became even more poignant and visibly shown to be the case in ME3.



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Every time someone puts The Witcher next to my DA I do this:

 

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I love Dragon Age and I've played The Witcher games. TW are good games! BUT THEY'RE NOT THE SAME KIND OF RPG. Please, please stop trying to force a comparison between them <_<

 

 

Good sir, if you love The Witcher so - please go tell the The Witcher forums about your love and adoration.

 

Seriously. There's nothing wrong with liking other types of rpgs. There is something wrong with continuously trying to shoehorn a comparison between different types of RPG's. You can play TW2 twice and see all the different story content. Sure you can argue that you can do the same for DA2 if you speak only about how you chose to end things. Yet In TW games there are also no choice in who you play, how you play them, their personality, how you interact with the people around you...

 

In TW games you step inside Geralt and you look for your lost girlfriend, and along the way you get to make one or two big choices that change how you get there.

 

Dragon Age games let you step inside The Warden, or Hawke, or The Inquisitor. YOUR Warden or Hawke or Inquisitor. They let you chose what they look like. You get to chose how they respond to the world with tone or dialog. They let you chose who you pal around with. They let you chose your own path to the goal in a thousand tiny different ways that makes each and every playthrough as unique or similar as you want. TW lets you do exactly none of those things.

 

Even the game play isn't the same. DA is a tactical party based system. TW is a button masher.

 

Heck I could convincingly argue that DA2 had MORE CHOICE then DA:O.

 

If you wanted to really have a discussion (Discussion, not argument.) on it, I'm sure PM's would be a better place. But for now I honestly just wish folks who love TW games stop trying to force a comparison between them and the DA games. They're no more alike then Final Fantasy and DA games. They only share a genre.



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Aw man, looks like the Keep will be delayed as well. Bummer.

 

And to be honest, I've never even heard about the Witcher series until a few months ago.  :lol:



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Heck I could convincingly argue that DA2 had MORE CHOICE then DA:O.

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Naw in the books, it explains in depth how most Witchers are kinda emotionless because of  the experimental treatment they go through in order to become mutant warriors, Geralt's different though.

 

Been a while since I read the first few books but, the experiments done to him didn't cause his emotions to become as dead as most Witchers, I will admit though He is more witty/funny in the books.

 

In the TV series, it's explained that Geralt is the result of new experiments because society is changing and the elders believe that witchers need the emotions to cope with new types of antagonists. So he ends up being more philosophical. Not sure if that bit is in the books.

 

OT: releasing an RPG during the fall is crazy anymore when you have all the mainstream action titles coming out in that quarter. CDPR stated quite clearly they didn't want to contend with that, and I'm sure EA felt the same way.



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You can play TW2 twice and see all the different story content. Sure you can argue that you can do the same for DA2 if you speak only about how you chose to end things. Yet In TW games there are also no choice in who you play, how you play them, their personality, how you interact with the people around you...

 

did you even play the game or are you speacking from what you heard

 

1) TW2 has 16 end states so playing it just 2 won't allow you to see everithing

2) "ONLY how you chose to end things".....let's agree to disagree

3) naturaly you can't chose someone else to play as since this is his story

4) not having any choise about how to play Geralt, personality, interacting with people.....are you just troling or do you actualy believe what you are saying

 

 

In TW games you step inside Geralt and you look for your lost girlfriend, and along the way you get to make one or two big choices that change how you get there.

 

 

this makes it clear that you have no ideea what is going on in TW2, the main quest is finding the kingslayer/ clearing your name. That leads to regaining some of Geralt's memories, some of them about Yenefer 

 

 

 You get to chose how they respond to the world with tone or dialog. They let you chose who you pal around with. They let you chose your own path to the goal in a thousand tiny different ways that makes each and every playthrough as unique or similar as you want. TW lets you do exactly none of those things.

1) tone or dialog..... TW has that in case you are not aware

2) chose your own path....TW has that in case you are not aware

3) a thousand different ways......i wish there would be that many posibilities, i'm waiting for the hard evidence

 

 

 DA is a tactical party based system. TW is a button masher.

 

1) TW1 could be considered a button masher, TW2 however if you are incapable of using any form of strategy sure you could mash buttons and hope you'll win or rage quit. DA can be seen as a button masher too, spam every spell/ combat skill you have and hope you'll win, or even worse a game that plays all by itself because of the auto-atack and companion tactics, you could do nothing just walk up to an enemy and your companions could kill everithing while. What makes a game like DA &TW tactical is the one behing the controler/ K&M   


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#89
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Not to deliver every line with the same flat tone?  

 

Witchers cannot display emotions. It's a big part of the lore and important to the world.

It's a common belief that Witchers cannot feel emotions at all. This is something, i think even Geralt himself believed in the books.

However, i think there emotions are only severly toned down. His feelings for Yennefer at least and his generall compassion shows that they at least have some emotions.

However i think that they cannot really display them like normal people, which leads to the flat tone of voice.



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i would assume the keep will have to come out before the actual game itself. 

 

and for witcher...

 

theres like a year difference between release dates. so i would say no



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Aw man, looks like the Keep will be delayed as well. Bummer.

 

And to be honest, I've never even heard about the Witcher series until a few months ago.  :lol:

 

most people havnt. only reason i didnt get witcher 2 was because it was a pc release and then 360. im a ps3 kinda guy. 



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In the TV series, it's explained that Geralt is the result of new experiments because society is changing and the elders believe that witchers need the emotions to cope with new types of antagonists. So he ends up being more philosophical. Not sure if that bit is in the books.

 

OT: releasing an RPG during the fall is crazy anymore when you have all the mainstream action titles coming out in that quarter. CDPR stated quite clearly they didn't want to contend with that, and I'm sure EA felt the same way.

 

I don't think andrzej sapkowski is really a fan of the TV series, granted he got a good amount  of mula from it, but The TV series changes some stuff



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Characters being emotionless can be interesting if handled correctly. In the Halo novels for example, the Spartans' inability to associate with most normal human beings is a major idea that gets repeatedly explored.

 

Now granted, my exposure to the Witcher is limited to the Witcher 2, but I never got the impression that Geralt's lack of emotion was really a feature. 



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I look forward to playing both games. I prefer the DA series, but really enjoyed the Witcher. For those of you who prefer to create your own character, reme mber the Witcher is based on a novel. Geralt is a well developed character and one I enjoy.

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I don't think I'm ever going to be able to bring myself to play The Witcher series because they, like so many other video games, star a dude, and I ain't got time to play as yet another grizzled white guy. The consistent ability to play as my own gender is one of the primary reasons I appreciate Bioware games so much, so in that sense The Witcher just doesn't do it for me.


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I wish people wouldn't place so much value on a protagonist's gender and skin color.


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I wish people wouldn't place so much value on a protagonist's gender and skin color.

 

It would be easier not to care if a huge percentage video game protagonists weren't white dudes.


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I wish people wouldn't place so much value on a protagonist's gender and skin color.

 

And wish that there were more than a couple AAA games with female protagonists each year (if that).


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It would be easier not to care if a huge percentage video game protagonists weren't white dudes.

 

 

This is a valid complaint, and as a white dude I pick a female character whenever I can. But Geralt is not a cliche character and doesn't fall into simple categorization. 



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It's funny how people are using emotionless as an excuse that Geralt is bad character.

Adam Jensen is pretty much the same and nobody complains about him.