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[Qun00]

I'll make Anora the sole ruler in my canon-to-be run just so Alistair can be happy, but I'm not looking forward to seeing my Warden kneel before her in the beginning of DAO:A.

The only human lord my Dalish Warden would bow to is a close friend.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

I suppose I had a dumb question for necroing this thread, but I love Anora. 

[TEWR]

I don't have a memeworthy image, but NECROPOST!!

This has certainly been asked before, but I have it on my mind right now. Do you honestly believe that Loghain would have allowed Howe to murder his own daughter? There seems to be quite a bit of love between the father and daughter, and besides... Anora was his puppet queen, who was very popular with the common folk, so it seems like it'd be career suicide for Loghain to kill her.

 

No, he wouldn't. You can ask him about it and he'll tell you that Howe suggested the idea to him and he refused to even entertain it.

 

 

 

 His whole betrayal of Cailan was partly because of his daughter, since Cailan was going to divorce her and marry Empress Celene. Everything he did he did for her and Ferelden.

 

1) Although the devs said that originally back when they were first writing DAO they were going to have Cailan plan on divorcing Anora and marrying Celene and Loghain learning of this to then betray him, it was ultimately scrapped, but the general ideas were kept for use in RtO. Bring Loghain to Return to Ostagar and he's clearly shocked at the correspondence between the two where he infers that this was Cailan's plan.

 

Kinda hard to, in your words, "betray Cailan" for the reason of "He was going to divorce my daughter!" if the man didn't even know about the divorce to begin with in canon.

 

2) It's actually ambiguous if it was Cailan's plan, in the canon we have now. We know Celene was planning it on her end, but right now we can't say for sure if Cailan was considering it or not. Doubtful we ever can, really. The two of them had been sending messages for years -- sometimes gifts Celene would send -- but it's also pointed out that Cailan did love Anora and... well... if Cailan was planning on divorcing her then Anora would end up having to be removed from the political spectrum entirely. So yeah, Cailan's thoughts on it all are muddy. He got pissed at Eamon when he suggested it but it's implied that he was at least looking at it again recently (the paper from Eamon is said to have been crumpled and unfolded) but like I said... we can't say what was going through his mind.

 

3) Cailan's death was just that of an idiot boy king playing at war, bungling the strategy his general told him to utilize. Was never a betrayal.

 

 

....wow I had no idea such a thread existed, lol.

Why wouldn't it? Anora's an awesome character, woman, and queen.

 

Leagues better then how Alistair is written in canon, where he's about as bad as Cailan if not worse.

[GoldenGail3]

 

Why wouldn't it? Anora's an awesome character, woman, and queen.

 

Leagues better then how Alistair is written in canon, where he's about as bad as Cailan if not worse.

 

Why do you try and start debates with me? 

 

And i for the matter, have a King Cousland save btw, so yes, i know. 

[TEWR]

I wasn't trying to start a debate actually. I just found the question you posed a rather odd one to ask and then went off into a tangent on "King" Alistair.

[Qun00]

Ahh, King Cousland. He manages to be even more irrelevant than Queen Cousland. Not mentioned quite as often whether by characters or codexs, and in the end of the day he is just a prince-consort.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

Ahh, King Cousland. He manages to be even more irrelevant than Queen Cousland. Not mentioned quite as often whether by characters or codexs, and in the end of the day he is just a prince-consort.

Lol, well, I suppose that's where headcanon comes in. I haven't heard my prince consort verbally mentioned yet, but I'm hoping he at least returns to Denerim. I figure out of all the possible fates for a male Warden, he'd be the most likely to not disappear permanently.

[GoldenGail3]

I wasn't trying to start a debate actually. I just found the question you posed a rather odd one to ask and then went off into a tangent on "King" Alistair.

 

I like King Alistair, btw.

[JJ Likeaprayer]

Hail to the Queen Anora....I like her and I made her the Queen. Alistair seems very happy organizing the Wardens in DA2,and Anora is of course very happy to be the Queen.

[NRO TYN]

I have a question for the people who made their Wardens King.

 

Knowing how DAI ends and with your Warden MIA, and Anora alone and without an heir did you go back and change things.

 

Also did your character "leave" Anora? I.E not longer married.

 

 

 

Since we still nercroing this thread, I thought I join in

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

I haven't finished my DA:I playthrough with that data yet, but I'm not changing anything (just moving my two favorite Hawkes to states where Alistair is king).  Regardless of how they decide to write the HoF, I refuse to acknowledge the cliché Bioware fate "main character wanders off and disappears forever, abandoning the world and his loved ones".  I really hate that ****.

[Boost32]

I have a question for the people who made their Wardens King.
 
Knowing how DAI ends and with your Warden MIA, and Anora alone and without an heir did you go back and change things.
 
Also did your character "leave" Anora? I.E not longer married.
 
 
 
Since we still nercroing this thread, I thought I join in

No, I wouldnt change anything and the Warden is not MIA, in fact he might have come back (if the Warden romanced Leliana, the epilogue will say they spend a lot of time together, so I can conclude that every Warden have come back).
My Warden still married.

[NRO TYN]

No, I wouldnt change anything and the Warden is not MIA, in fact he might have come back (if the Warden romanced Leliana, the epilogue will say they spend a lot of time together, so I can conclude that every Warden have come back).
My Warden still married.

 

I really wanna believe the latter, but it seems to me that Bioware is gonna do the old "Your Warden walks into the sunset and never returns" Prior to DAI I was hoping my Warden and Anora would have a child so the Couslands would take the Throne....But atlast

[ModernAcademic]

 Do you honestly believe that Loghain would have allowed Howe to murder his own daughter? 

 

 

When you talk to Loghain in camp, you can see he's deeply fond of his daughter. He would never wish harm on her, quite the contrary. 

 

He let Howe make lots of suggestions as to how he should govern, but I don't the Arl would be that stupid to even dare make such suggestion.

 

The very fact that Loghain let Howe take his own daughter prisoner in his estate shows how despeate he was to make sure he didn't get deposed as regent.

 

Ferelden DID plunge into civil war after the king died. He couldn't let his daughter speak against him in public. It would be the same as giving ammunition to his enemies. The country was fractured, the Bannorn was divided and the darkspawn were coming from the South. But still, Loghain was no politician.

 

Military strategy is nothing like politics. He should've ruled in Anora's shadow, not tried to become regent. And tried to convey to the Bannorn how he retreated so as to not let the entire royal army perish in Ostagar. It's no wonder his action was interpreted as a grab for power. And having an advisor such as Howe didn't improve matters. The man was ruthless. It was a terrible mistake.

 

Loghain is a man prone to doing what is necessary to do his duty, to defend his country. Howe is a man prone to doing what is necessary for his own benefit. The Arl only allied with the regent because he wanted to promote his family to a better status. I bet he would've even convinced Anora to marry Nathaniel if he could.