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[Corypheus]

Anora's going to be Queen except for like one or two of my imports, and definitely canon Queen of Ferelden in my first PT. I'm especially looking forward to seeing her again, hopefully interacting with Celene at some point as well.

[TK514]

Anora's going to be Queen except for like one or two of my imports, and definitely canon Queen of Ferelden in my first PT. I'm especially looking forward to seeing her again, hopefully interacting with Celene at some point as well.

 

Oh snap.  Darkspawn Magister in the house.  Anora for Corypheus Puppet Queen in 2014.

[Ryzaki]

Nothing ever confirmed this. I kind of wonder if he keeps her alive as a political hostage to a) keep the Gwaren populace on good behaviour and b ) he knows he is going to have trouble producing an heir, in which case, he might keep her alive in case no heir is produced. Yes, I think Alistair is smart enough, and a hardened Alistair is tough enough, to make those sorts of decisions.

 

Pretty sure a hardened Alistair goes "we'll see." in a rather dark tone to the whole "deal with her." scenario. Also leaving someone alive who's a threat to your throne and refuses to swear loyalty is well I don't think hardened Alistair would take a chance on that. Better to name someone else heir in chase he dies (such as Eamon).

 

That said I usually marry them to each other so it becomes a moot point in that scenario.

[Spicen]

Anora is alive ruler alongside alistair only once in my canon where my mr.goody two shoes wardens saves everyone's butts for the stake of story. Everywhere else she's a goner. She likes politics but also probably has some genital disease.Both cailan and alistair seem to have trouble putting her to bed. She's also a proper politician(aka sewer rat) who was prepared to sell her father out for the throne.

[Urazz]

Anora is alive ruler alongside alistair only once in my canon where my mr.goody two shoes wardens saves everyone's butts for the stake of story. Everywhere else she's a goner. She likes politics but also probably has some genital disease.Both cailan and alistair seem to have trouble putting her to bed. She's also a proper politician(aka sewer rat) who was prepared to sell her father out for the throne.

I don't think Cailan had trouble sleeping with Anora.  He was just an unfaithful husband it looks like.  If anything I think he was the one who was infertile as he had no bastards around from sleeping around like he did.

 

As for Alistair's reluctance to sleep with Anora, that is only when he is unhardened I think.  I think Alistair's reluctance has more to do with Anora being his brother's wife when he was alive.

[Sifr]

I've recently given Anora (and Loghain) something of a re-evaluation in my recent playthroughs, as while they do things that I dislike and screw over the Warden, I do accept the rationale behind them as being sound given their personality and motives.

 

I've been considering replaying the last part of my canon save through (or using the Keep) to have Anora rule with Alistair and keep Loghain alive, simply because I'm curious to see how that will play out in Inquisition. I think Loghain would make a surprisingly decent Warden and give him a sense of purpose once more. And since sparing him leads to something of a rift between Alistair and the Warden, making it unlikely that he'd now heed your advice, putting Anora on the throne to offer her guidance would be vital, since I don't trust Eamon's motives at all.

 

I'm probably more interested in seeing what happens to Anora when she's Queen with Alistair, than Anora as sole ruler or married to the male Cousland?

[Xilizhra]

I've recently given Anora (and Loghain) something of a re-evaluation in my recent playthroughs, as while they do things that I dislike and screw over the Warden, I do accept the rationale behind them as being sound given their personality and motives.

 

I've been considering replaying the last part of my canon save through (or using the Keep) to have Anora rule with Alistair and keep Loghain alive, simply because I'm curious to see how that will play out in Inquisition. I think Loghain would make a surprisingly decent Warden and give him a sense of purpose once more. And since sparing him leads to something of a rift between Alistair and the Warden, making it unlikely that he'd now heed your advice, putting Anora on the throne to offer her guidance would be vital, since I don't trust Eamon's motives at all.

 

I'm probably more interested in seeing what happens to Anora when she's Queen with Alistair, than Anora as sole ruler or married to the male Cousland?

It's not that much of a rift. Alistair's more or less over it by Awakening.

[Yinello]

Anora will be solo Queen in my 'canon' playthrough. She's intelligent and has no problem taking risks for the good of the country, which are great leadership skills. The fact that her being Queen annoys Eamon is a bonus, considering he thinks blood is more important than skill.

 

I hope that she either remains alone or is happy with a consort at her side in DA:I. I'd hate for her to be shipped with some crap king again who takes over all the things she does best. 

 

I would love to see her spar words with Celene.

[Xilizhra]

Anora will be solo Queen in my 'canon' playthrough. She's intelligent and has no problem taking risks for the good of the country, which are great leadership skills. The fact that her being Queen annoys Eamon is a bonus, considering he thinks blood is more important than skill.

 

I hope that she either remains alone or is happy with a consort at her side in DA:I. I'd hate for her to be shipped with some crap king again who takes over all the things she does best. 

 

I would love to see her spar words with Celene.

And slaughtering elves if they cause any civil disturbance. I have virtually no fondness for Anora.

[Yinello]

And slaughtering elves if they cause any civil disturbance. I have virtually no fondness for Anora.

 

Of course she's not perfect but compared to Bhelen and Harrowmont she's practically a kitten. In the world of Thedas there is no true and just leader with possibly the exception of Alistair and Anora together. If anything, she needs good advisors and not snakes who hope to knock her off her throne. Killing Elves to stop riots are definitely a Draconian measure but one I highly doubt Anora would take if there were better alternatives given in a short period of time.

[Xilizhra]

Of course she's not perfect but compared to Bhelen and Harrowmont she's practically a kitten. In the world of Thedas there is no true and just leader with possibly the exception of Alistair and Anora together. If anything, she needs good advisors and not snakes who hope to knock her off her throne. Killing Elves to stop riots are definitely a Draconian measure but one I highly doubt Anora would take if there were better alternatives given in a short period of time.

And compared to Alistair, she's a rabid weasel. And since Alistair doesn't do that, it seems rather unlikely that there weren't better alternatives.

[Sifr]

I don't think Cailan had trouble sleeping with Anora.  He was just an unfaithful husband it looks like.  If anything I think he was the one who was infertile as he had no bastards around from sleeping around like he did.

 

Seconded.

 

It makes more sense to me that Cailan was the one who was infertile (as we have no inclination of any illegitimate children) and Anora was unfairly blamed for the lack of children, which was only compounded by Cailan going around and sleeping with everyone except her.

[Yinello]

And compared to Alistair, she's a rabid weasel. And since Alistair doesn't do that, it seems rather unlikely that there weren't better alternatives.

 

Considering we weren't told any other alternatives, we won't know. But it could be that the riots never happened during Alistair's rule and thus he never had to interfere. I highly doubt that any rule will be eternally peaceful. In the Dark Horse comics he was pretty bitter.

[animedreamer]

I wanted Anora to myself in one playthrough both politically, and in matrimony. lol She will likely be Queen with Prince Consort Warden in my first playthrough.

[animedreamer]

Seconded.

 

It makes more sense to me that Cailan was the one who was infertile (as we have no inclination of any illegitimate children) and Anora was unfairly blamed for the lack of children, which was only compounded by Cailan going around and sleeping with everyone except her.

Besides Anora's father was a commoner, you know how those commoners breed, like rabbits they say... surely Anora can pop 3 out at a time coming from stoke like that.

[Spicen]

I don't think Cailan had trouble sleeping with Anora. He was just an unfaithful husband it looks like. If anything I think he was the one who was infertile as he had no bastards around from sleeping around like he did.

As for Alistair's reluctance to sleep with Anora, that is only when he is unhardened I think. I think Alistair's reluctance has more to do with Anora being his brother's wife when he was alive.

Im sorry but i think you do not read the codex properly. Go play 'return to ostagar' and read one of cailan's notes. You will find that Eamon tells cailan that anora was in her thirties and a heir was priority. Eamon also told cailan to look at other options if things with anora did not improve. As for cailan being unfaithful, when eamon suggested divorcing anora, they had a bitter argument. So ur suggestion that cailan was some sort of a drooliing cheat is uncalled for.
We also havnt heard alistair having a chilx with anora anywhere. She is probably resisting him like she resisted cailan. She thinks she iis some sort of super natural virgin queen or sth.

[Spicen]

Seconded.

It makes more sense to me that Cailan was the one who was infertile (as we have no inclination of any illegitimate children) and Anora was unfairly blamed for the lack of children, which was only compounded by Cailan going around and sleeping with everyone except her.

There is no proof for your above statememt.
Considering how she evades alistair from the bed, id say she is the one who didnt want to do it.
Why? Read the chronicles of how queen elizabeth 1 stayed virgin and why she thought her rule wud be disrupted and her power diminished if she had a child.

[Spicen]

And slaughtering elves if they cause any civil disturbance. I have virtually no fondness for Anora.

More like selling the elves to the highest bidder.
Anora's official: Who wants Shianni? I hear 2 sovereigns. Going once......twice......thrice. Sold! Blessed be the rule of solo queen anora. Just like her father she has bestowed upon the elves their true purpose

[Spicen]

Of course she's not perfect but compared to Bhelen and Harrowmont she's practically a kitten. In the world of Thedas there is no true and just leader with possibly the exception of Alistair and Anora together. If anything, she needs good advisors and not snakes who hope to knock her off her throne. Killing Elves to stop riots are definitely a Draconian measure but one I highly doubt Anora would take if there were better alternatives given in a short period of time.

Dwarven politics is dwarven politics. Just so you know anora is no less of a snake than howe. She just looks hotter. If u saved loghain and talk to him he says that anora is a cunning politician(aka sewer rat) who uses her persuasive charms to further her goals

[Spicen]

And compared to Alistair, she's a rabid weasel. And since Alistair doesn't do that, it seems rather unlikely that there weren't better alternatives.

Anora is a proper politician.

[Green]

Im sorry but i think you do not read the codex properly. Go play 'return to ostagar' and read one of cailan's notes. You will find that Eamon tells cailan that anora was in her thirties and a heir was priority. Eamon also told cailan to look at other options if things with anora did not improve. As for cailan being unfaithful, when eamon suggested divorcing anora, they had a bitter argument. So ur suggestion that cailan was some sort of a drooliing cheat is uncalled for.
We also havnt heard alistair having a chilx with anora anywhere. She is probably resisting him like she resisted cailan. She thinks she iis some sort of super natural virgin queen or sth.

 

This doesn't tell me anything other than Eamon might have some sexist inclinations in addition to his traditionalist ones. He outright tells the Warden that 'they didn't see the Theirin line back on the throne only to lose it within one generation' or something to that effect; all it is is retroactive consistency with Eamon's motives late in the game.

 

Quite frankly I'm more inclined to believe Cailan was the one with the fertility issues given how much time his parents spent traipsing around the Deep Roads in The Stolen Throne.

[TK514]

And slaughtering elves if they cause any civil disturbance. I have virtually no fondness for Anora.

 

Hey!  She and Celene will have something to talk about!

[Sifr]

Im sorry but i think you do not read the codex properly. Go play 'return to ostagar' and read one of cailan's notes. You will find that Eamon tells cailan that anora was in her thirties and a heir was priority. Eamon also told cailan to look at other options if things with anora did not improve. As for cailan being unfaithful, when eamon suggested divorcing anora, they had a bitter argument. So ur suggestion that cailan was some sort of a drooliing cheat is uncalled for.
We also havnt heard alistair having a chilx with anora anywhere. She is probably resisting him like she resisted cailan. She thinks she iis some sort of super natural virgin queen or sth.

 

 I did read the codex entries and play RtO.

 

As someone else pointed out, it seems like Eamon was being sexist and dismissive of Anora and blaming her for Cailan having no children, when it could easily be Cailan being unable to have children. Cailan's argument with Eamon similarly could be more about his male pride being wounded by the reminder that he has yet to produce an heir, rather than Eamon's suggestion that he ditch Anora.

 

Coupled with the fact we know that Cailan was planning to ditch her for Celene, I can't see how Cailan would argue with Eamon for suggesting it when he had considered it and had apparently been in correspondence for some time for their letters to have an "overly familiar" tone to them.

 

As for the accusation of his being unfaithful, we hear from Anora that Cailan did cheat on her frequently and while we don't know how accurate that is, if you take his letters to Celene into consideration, it's possible that he was pursuing other women during their marriage.

[Hipster-Brigadier]

I do want to see Anora more than I want to see Alistair so i'm definately tempted to put a playthrough forward with her as sole ruler and keep Alistair in the grey wardens

[Chewin]

Anora's going to be Queen except for like one or two of my imports, and definitely canon Queen of Ferelden in my first PT. I'm especially looking forward to seeing her again, hopefully interacting with Celene at some point as well.

 

Seconded. 

 

I have one import with both Alistair and Anora as King and Queen respectively, so will be intriguing to see how that has developed as well.