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[TheKomandorShepard]

I don't think the Qunari understand that magic is vastly superior to their technology, because, magic can do everything technology can do, and sometimes, even faster. Who cares if they can harness gunpowder, when, a magic user can cast a simple fireball that does more?

If that was in case tevinter wouldn't get crushed by qunari technology in record time and all this while fighting with entire continent not to mention that magic is extremely unstable and overthrow qunari technology only when it comes about causing disasters and perhaps when it comes about short-term healing.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Danarius is about as evil as Rendon Howe. So ya you're going to have evil nobles, the only difference that Howe could not shoot lightening.

Besides that Redon Howe couldn't get away with what he has done if not blight (caused by mages)?

 

Not mention that Howe was just corrupted man as you can find in every country when tevinter like orlais promotes corruption.

[Samahl]

If that was in case tevinter wouldn't get crushed by qunari technology in record time and all this while fighting with entire continent not to mention that magic is extremely unstable and overthrow qunari technology only when it comes about causing disasters and perhaps when it comes about short-term healing.

 

If I recall correctly, as of now, the main Tevinter-Qunari conflict is centered around Seheron - more specifically, rather than invading, the Qunari are simply protecting their borders, while the Imperium has been trying to reclaim the territory. If the Qunari attacked now now, I'm sure they would make short work of Tevinter.

[KainD]

Tevinter is my kind of place. If I was a mage in Thedas there would be no place I would rather live. The only thing I currently dislike about Tevinter is that it is religious.

[Samahl]

The only thing I currently dislike about Tevinter is that it is religious.

 

Really? You're not bothered by the slavery?

[Pierce Miller]

Samahl, on 26 Jul 2014 - 5:21 PM, said:Samahl, on 26 Jul 2014 - 5:21 PM, said:

Really? You're not bothered by the slavery?

He wouldn't be a slave by way of his mage status. It depends on his morality really, Most people nowadays would be adamantly against it though.

[Samahl]

He wouldn't be a slave by way of his mage status. It depends on his morality really, Most people nowadays would be adamantly against it though.

 

He's talking about what he currently dislikes though, not what he'd hypothetically take issue with.

 

[Pierce Miller]

Samahl, on 26 Jul 2014 - 5:27 PM, said:

He's talking about what he currently dislikes though, not what he'd hypothetically take issue with.

It's entirely possible that he doesn't feel empathy then.

[Medhia_Nox]

@Pierce Miller:  Not entirely true.  I distinctly remember hearing about mages who were every bit as locked into servitude as mundanes. 

 

It's important to remember that not all Thedosian mages are created equal.  Some can make light - some can blow up stuff with a thought.

 

Of course, every supporter thinks they'd be the latter and Tevinter would be falling over trying to praise them.

 

The Tevinter I imagine is far crueler to mages than the rest of Thedas and the reason is so plainly obvious.  You don't get the cream to rise to the top by pampering mages.  You get it by separated the wheat from the chaff.  (How's that for combining idioms.) 

 

I look forward to all the fan-rage when they hear that Tevinter revels in Harrowing's and Tranquility - punishing weak mages is probably a favorite pastime among the power hungry magisters.  (And no, if it's Magetopia I won't rage, I don't have expectations of Tevinter currently)

 

You simply don't have mage eugenics without uplifting the strong and culling the weak.

[lil yonce]

@Pierce Miller:  Not entirely true.  I distinctly remember hearing about mages who were every bit as locked into servitude as mundanes. 

 

It's important to remember that not all Thedosian mages are created equal.  Some can make light - some can blow up stuff with a thought.

 

Of course, every supporter thinks they'd be the latter and Tevinter would be falling over trying to praise them.

 

The Tevinter I imagine is far crueler to mages than the rest of Thedas and the reason is so plainly obvious.  You don't get the cream to rise to the top by pampering mages.  You get it by separated the wheat from the chaff.  (How's that for combining idioms.) 

 

I look forward to all the fan-rage when they hear that Tevinter revels in Harrowing's and Tranquility - punishing weak mages is probably a favorite pastime among the power hungry magisters.  (And no, if it's Magetopia I won't rage, I don't have expectations of Tevinter currently)

 

You simply don't have mage eugenics without uplifting the strong and culling the weak.

Dead on IMO. Don't know if its been mentioned in this thread but David Gaider has even confirmed that Tevinter loves the Rite of Tranquility. http://dgaider.tumbl...d-was-wondering

[Mistic]

The Tevinter I imagine is far crueler to mages than the rest of Thedas and the reason is so plainly obvious.  You don't get the cream to rise to the top by pampering mages.  You get it by separated the wheat from the chaff.  (How's that for combining idioms.) 

 

I look forward to all the fan-rage when they hear that Tevinter revels in Harrowing's and Tranquility - punishing weak mages is probably a favorite pastime among the power hungry magisters.  (And no, if it's Magetopia I won't rage, I don't have expectations of Tevinter currently)

 

Given what Gaider posted on Tumblr (lil yonce's link), you're right. I mean, Tevinter Magisters are probably the individuals in Thedas who understand best the dangers of magic because, let's be honest, they're among the most powerful and dangerous mages in the world. Given that even normal nobles like to wage civil wars and perform coup d'etats, I'm sure the Magisters try to keep an eye on "problematic" mages.

[KainD]

Really? You're not bothered by the slavery?

Not at all.

[Samahl]

Not at all.

 

It's entirely possible that he doesn't feel empathy then.

 

Looks like you were right.

[renfrees]

He just think he'll be at the top of the food chain, and not bottom. Despite perfectly knowing, that Tevinter enslaves mages, given the chance.

[Vumba the Wild Elf]

Honestly he reminds me of ...which one of them was it? Brann, I think. Brann Bronzebeard of Warcraft fame.

 

All the WoW tabletop books were written from the perspective of Brann exploring the world and visiting all these uncharted places, including some that were(or should have been) impossible to get to.

 

Damn shame Blizzard scrapped them.

And the a**hole warden totally killed that guy

[Sir DeLoria]

He wouldn't be a slave by way of his mage status. It depends on his morality really, Most people nowadays would be adamantly against it though.

Nope, he could still be a slave. You shouldn't have handed Fenris over so soon and have listened to his dialogue

"Many mages dream of the freedom Tevinter offers, unknowing that few ever accomplish it."

Mages aren't free and magisters have no more respect from a weaker mage than the lowest slave.

Not at all.

Lmao, you really find the weirdest people on the internet. I bet you have the guts to advocate slavery in real life.

[Former_Fiend]

Here's the thing; you can mass-produce cannons. You can't mass-produce mages.

 

Even specifically attempting to breed mages is tricky since it's hard to tell when a couple will produce a mage or not. Mages can have non-mage children, non-mages can have mage children.

 

Even if you've got a mage child, it's going to be five to ten years before the magic starts manifesting. It then requires years, maybe decades of training before they're combat ready, and not every mage is a capable combatant. Some just don't have the aptitude for it.

 

A cannon? You can repair or replace a cannon in a matter of days. A dead mage, though? Could be years before you have one fit to take their place.

[KainD]

Lmao, you really find the weirdest people on the internet. I bet you have the guts to advocate slavery in real life.

Why would I need to do that?

[Former_Fiend]

He just think he'll be at the top of the food chain, and not bottom. Despite perfectly knowing, that Tevinter enslaves mages, given the chance.

 

Of course, were KainD transported to Thedas in the way of a bad movie plot, irony would dictate that he wouldn't be a mage, at all.

[KC_Prototype]

I'd like Rivain and Antiva as well. Oh, and Nevarra. 

I'm hoping for a DAI expansion that takes place in Nevarra. 

[KainD]

He just think he'll be at the top of the food chain, and not bottom. Despite perfectly knowing, that Tevinter enslaves mages, given the chance.

I don't know what I would be, its a very hypothetical situation. But I would have no problem playing the power game.

[KainD]

Of course, were KainD transported to Thedas in the way of a bad movie plot, irony would dictate that he wouldn't be a mage, at all.

As I said, if I was a mage. Obviously I wouldn't want to live in Tevinter if I was a mundane.

[Vroom Vroom]

Do you think we'll see it? Even a small glimpse would be enough. One singular side quest to sate me perhaps?

 

I doubt it, Tevinter is worth a full game in my opinion. I hope that Dragon Age 5 (I feel that Inquisition should end with a Qunari invasion and 4 should have us dealing with the Qunari) has us playing in Tevinter. I think it would be neat if we got to lead a slave revolt and at the end of the game we had the choice to put down the uprising we had caused, so that we could become free (maybe even a Magister), or we could continue to lead the revolt and put an end to slavery in Tevinter.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

I still think that having the next game in Tevinter would make for an amazing backdrop for your character's Race/Class choices. If you're a mage you're obviously in the higher ups of society, if you're a dwarve you could be apart of the trade network between the Tevinter and Dwarves, non-mage elf you start out as a slave, non-mage maybe a grunt for a mage, and a non-mage Qunari maybe a POW?

[Vroom Vroom]

I still think that having the next game in Tevinter would make for an amazing backdrop for your character's Race/Class choices. If you're a mage you're obviously in the higher ups of society, if you're a dwarve you could be apart of the trade network between the Tevinter and Dwarves, non-mage elf you start out as a slave, non-mage maybe a grunt for a mage, and a non-mage Qunari maybe a POW?

I like your ideas. Maybe they could even create two different Mage origin stories? A noble mage that is in the higher ups of society and a slave mage that is just discovering their magic powers. They could even balance it out by having the noble mage fall from grace at the end of their origin.