The final LOTR film was my favorite, if only for the Siege of Minas Tirith/Pelennor Fields. That is until the Deus Ex Machina ghost army comes.
I won't find anything as epic as the Ride of the Rohirrim so I'm bound to be disappointed with what the third Hobbit has in store.
^Oh boy, I remember seeing a bunch of ghosts showing up and literally killed everything without a fuzz. Disappointing.
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They were watching Mordor's borders during the downtime between the Hobbit and LOTR, but there wasn't much else they could do. There'd be no guarantee that they could win an assault within Sauron's old stomping ground, cause he'd have homefield advantage.
Plus, without the Ring, all you can do is bully him :-/
Don't worry, man, Tolkein had this covered xD
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Which was stupid.
That scene made him look like weakling considering in the books that moment never happened. Aragorn defeated him with a damn torch, Gandalf killed Balrog who would rip any Ringwraith apart, but now improved Gandalf the White can't handle the Witch King.
It's funny because his powers are pretty much on the same level as Sauron. Sauron just looks stronger because he is using powers of Maiar, while Gandalf isn't being allowed to use them unless if under extreme circumstances. The only person that could possibily humiliated Gandalf in that scene by ripping his staff would be Morgoth.
I love the films.
I owe a lot to them.
They really changed me as a person since it really what drove me to read books, plays games etc etc...
But damn.
Was that scene awful xD
He does in Lord of the Rings...and gets his ass kicked and staff broken.
The final LOTR film was my favorite, if only for the Siege of Minas Tirith/Pelennor Fields. That is until the Deus Ex Machina ghost army comes.
I won't find anything as epic as the Ride of the Rohirrim so I'm bound to be disappointed with what the third Hobbit has in store.
Did you read the books, because the ghost army is quite well explained (for that matter, it's reasonably well explained in the movie).
Hopefully the third installment of the "Hobbit" trilogy doesn't have as many cringe-worthy scenes as the final LOTR film. *Crosses fingers*
Well, they already surpassed that in the first two Hobbit movies, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed them well enough, but I find there are far more cringe-worthy moments in the Hobbit movies than the LotR trilogy. That being said, I'm quite looking forward to the Battle of Five Armies in the final Hobbit film.
Which has always bugged me. But as far as I remember, they did that scene to show how mighty the Witch King really is, that not even Gandalf can do anything against him so there was no chance to beat him. And then they had Eowyn unexpectedly defeating him, thanks to Glorifindel's prophecy, giving the whole event a nice twist.
I think in the unextended version it was more similar to the books, they stared each other down and then the Witch King turned away at the sound of the horn.
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^Oh boy, I remember seeing a bunch of ghosts showing up and literally killed everything without a fuzz. Disappointing.
I never really got why the Dead didn't help with the rest of the siege, instead of just stopping after clearing the shoreline. I mean, they're basically invincible. For that matter, I'm not sure why they didn't just try to take over Middle-Earth if the only threats to them were Nazgul and Sauron himself.
I never really got why the Dead didn't help with the rest of the siege, instead of just stopping after clearing the shoreline. I mean, they're basically invincible. For that matter, I'm not sure why they didn't just try to take over Middle-Earth if the only threats to them were Nazgul and Sauron himself.
All they wanted was to be at peace. And the only way they could get that was to fulfill their ancient oath. Aragorn promised them he would consider their oath fulfilled if they helped at the shoreline battle. But to compel them to continue their service would have been false on Aragorn's part and he was too honorable to do that. If memory serves, in the movie Gimli tries to get Aragorn to do just that, but Aragorn refuses. (Gimli doesn't do this in the book).
I think in the unextended version it was more similar to the books, they stared each other down and then the Witch King turned away at the sound of the horn.
Gandalf and the Witch King are pretty much equal in the books.
Huh? No.
The Witch King is just a former human king imbued with some Sauron power.
Gandalf is a Maiar.
I am fairly sure he says that he is the most dangerous thing in the middle earth bar Sauron.
The final LOTR film was my favorite, if only for the Siege of Minas Tirith/Pelennor Fields. That is until the Deus Ex Machina ghost army comes.
I won't find anything as epic as the Ride of the Rohirrim so I'm bound to be disappointed with what the third Hobbit has in store.
I don't know about that. I've been hearing The Battle of the Five Armies (the actual battle itself) is going to be pretty epic in this movie.
I will be seriously impressed if The Battle of the Five Armies will outmatch the Siege of Minas Tirith. That scene when the Rohirrim arrives is one of my favorite moments in movies.
But fingers crossed though that it proves up for the challange.
Just as long as there are no more stupid anti-climactic Gloria Steinem pandering retard scenes, it should be cool...
I think the most epic of all battles would be Dagor Dagorath, but alas, it will probably never happen on the big screen. http://lotr.wikia.co.../Dagor_Dagorath Peter Jackson pretty much said it would be a nightmare to adapt The Silmarillion into a series of films, so there goes that wish down the drain.
Yes, but the movie made the standoff more dramatical and gave Witch King an even more intimidate presence, and to later be killed so unexpectedly, instead of a great battle of sorts. That was what I was referring to.
It also damaged Gandalf has a character nor did I find it that dramatic, then again I had alot of issues with RotK. Too many unnecary changes, too many cut parts, the epic battle turned to crap because of the ghost ect.
The Witch king is powerful and now doubt would give Gandalf a run for his money since Gandalf can not use his full power unless he really has too(and if he does, Middle Earth is pretty much screwed) Even not at full strength the Witch King would not have been able to do that. In trying to be "cool" Jackson damaged a characters integrity.
Did you read the books, because the ghost army is quite well explained (for that matter, it's reasonably well explained in the movie).
The Army of the Dead only helped Aragorn and the Eriador(?) troops hijack the Corsair ships. They were absent for everything else in the book.
The Army of the Dead only helped Aragorn and the Eriador(?) troops hijack the Corsair ships. They were absent for everything else in the book.
Not sure I grasp your point. Yes, that's all they did, but their presence was pretty well explained in the Paths of the Dead chapter (I believe that was the one) in the book.
well
i like all the movies tbh sure I can rank them from 1 to 5
but meh .....
the last hobbit movie should be a blast
I read the the hobbit MORE than LOTR, sure it has that childish air about it but that's why i found it more amusing I guess
of course in the MOVIE, the director HAS to add a few twists and some love (elf chick with dwarf guy) cause you have to have that stuff in a movie
reading LOTR and the hobbit I found the books extremely thrifty on romance (if hardly any was there)
I love how you're all talking about the Battle of Five armies and how amazing it should be.
But in the book, Bilbo gets knocked out and the narrative passes over it.
And in the animated film Bilbo just naps through it. I want that.
Then again I also wanted all the songs in the films too. But apparently that only warrants strange looks from people.
I'd also like the greatest adventure to play at the end of There and Back again since I'm giving out all my wants.
I think the most epic of all battles would be Dagor Dagorath, but alas, it will probably never happen on the big screen. http://lotr.wikia.co.../Dagor_Dagorath Peter Jackson pretty much said it would be a nightmare to adapt The Silmarillion into a series of films, so there goes that wish down the drain.
I'm actually glad he doesn't have the rights to make a movie out of the Silmarillion. I always wonder what Tolkien would think if he could watch Jackson's movies. I imagine he would probably shake his head in disgust.
I do feel like the Children of Hurin could be adapted really well into a movie. It's very grim and tragic compared to the Hobbit, but it's a really good story and just a small piece of the Silmarillion that could reasonably be shown in a movie.
I love The Hobbit, it's been one of my favourite books since I was a kid. I also loved the LotR movies, despite the at times unneccessary changes from the books. I was never fond of the plans to make a Hobbit trilogy, and I wasn't too impressed by the first movie. There were some things I enjoyed a lot, like Freeman as Bilbo and the Riddles in the Dark scene, and I had some hope for the second movie, knowing we would get to some of my favourite things, like Beorn and Smaug.
It... didn't go well. 
The Battle of Five Armies was one thing I've been hoping to watch in a glorious big screen version ever since I'd read the book. And yeah, we're only being told most of it in the book, but that's an understandable change imo. But now I'm not looking forward to it at all. I strongly disliked the Goblin cave scenes in AUJ, but even after that I never expected stuff like the made up "Ninja Elves vs CGOrcs" skirmishes and "Benny Hill Smaug".
I'll watch the movie, at some point, but it's nowhere near the kind of 'must see' it should be for me, being the finale of a trilogy, an adaptation of a book I love and a follow-up to an amazing movie trilogy.
I don't know about that. I've been hearing The Battle of the Five Armies (the actual battle itself) is going to be pretty epic in this movie.
The very approach Hobbit has to action scenes, fights, battles and bad guys ensures everything in LOTR is cooler by default. Hobbit feels like watching the latest Star Wars trilogy. CGI piece of **** made of plastic doing endless repertoire of crazy COOL acrobatics against another CGI piece of **** made of plastic. Bad taste. Doesn't matter if it is some wacky chase scene involving a ledge, small intense 1 vs 1 fight, Dwarves vs Dragon - fight or a huge mass battle. It all feels the same in Hobbit. ie it feels like nothing.
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