Why does eezo mostly show up on garden worlds, either ones that are currently inhabited, or were inhabited at one time? Thoughts?
Is there a connection between Eezo and Sentient life?
#1
Posté 24 juillet 2014 - 01:37
#2
Posté 24 juillet 2014 - 01:40
Why does eezo mostly show up on garden worlds, either ones that are currently inhabited, or were inhabited at one time? Thoughts?
Maybe the Reapers seed the planets of primitive species with the stuff so the young species develop along the paths the Reapers desire?
#3
Posté 24 juillet 2014 - 01:48
Looking at Earth? No, probably not.
#4
Posté 24 juillet 2014 - 01:56
Since Earth has no eezo, and so do several uninhabited asteroids, the two clearly don't need each other.
I like to think that they may be prevalent on garden worlds due to the actions of species millions of years ago that utilized eezo and were wiped out by the reapers. While all traces of the species are destroyed, the garden world eventually recovers, is resettled, and the new inhabitants discover the radioactive element left overs.
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#5
Posté 24 juillet 2014 - 02:52
Since Earth has no eezo, and so do several uninhabited asteroids, the two clearly don't need each other.
I like to think that they may be prevalent on garden worlds due to the actions of species millions of years ago that utilized eezo and were wiped out by the reapers. While all traces of the species are destroyed, the garden world eventually recovers, is resettled, and the new inhabitants discover the radioactive element left overs.
I'm pretty sure that's the canonical answer - that you find eezo on garden worlds because of past settlements. Can't recall where I read that though; it *might* be the ME2 codex, but I can't be bothered to check.
#6
Posté 24 juillet 2014 - 02:54
Since Earth has no eezo, and so do several uninhabited asteroids, the two clearly don't need each other.
Here's another question: how did humans get their hands on eezo? Did the Protheans leave some behind? Was it naturally occurring somewhere in the Solar system?
#7
Posté 24 juillet 2014 - 03:01
Here's another question: how did humans get their hands on eezo? Did the Protheans leave some behind? Was it naturally occurring somewhere in the Solar system?
If I remember correctly there was a large stockpile of the stuff on Mars.
#8
Posté 24 juillet 2014 - 10:35
According to the ME1 Codex, the Prothean outpost on Mars had 2 still functioning 'ships', which where deconstructed and reverse-engineered.
('Ships' because whatever was left there was likely just a large transport shuttle)
How they got additional Eezo is not clear, maybe there is some in the Arcturus system.
Edit: According to the wiki entry on Mars and the protheans; the outpost itself contained an Eezo core, and housed 'half a dozen spaceships'.
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#9
Posté 24 juillet 2014 - 10:49
Eezo is Leviathan poop.
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#10
Posté 24 juillet 2014 - 11:56
Here's another question: how did humans get their hands on eezo? Did the Protheans leave some behind? Was it naturally occurring somewhere in the Solar system?
There was a stockpile on Mars from the Prothean ruin and presumably instructions on how to enrich it.
#11
Posté 24 juillet 2014 - 04:00
Since Earth has no eezo, and so do several uninhabited asteroids, the two clearly don't need each other.
I like to think that they may be prevalent on garden worlds due to the actions of species millions of years ago that utilized eezo and were wiped out by the reapers. While all traces of the species are destroyed, the garden world eventually recovers, is resettled, and the new inhabitants discover the radioactive element left overs.
Some eezo is naturally occurring as well.
IIRC according to the lore it is naturally produced by massive stars going supernova. Over the eons the debris cast off from dying stars later coalesces into new stars and orbiting planets, and in some cases this includes element zero. The Sol system was just unlucky and ended up eezo poor, with the Mars stockpile being the result of Prothean settlement.
Considering how eezo rich Thessia is it was probably naturally deposited when the planet formed from dust clouds and asteroids.
#12
Posté 24 juillet 2014 - 05:33
Because if Earth had eezo people would be naturally biotic, and we wouldn't need organizations like Cerberus to torture children to try and unlock biotic potential.
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#13
Posté 26 juillet 2014 - 01:39
As I remember the formation of Eezo required a supernova or a very active star acting upon normal matter like an asteroid. then these asteroids would fall upon a planet to form the eezo deposits on the planet. In our case we have several large gas giants in the outer reaches of our solar system acting as shields by drawing in most of the asteroids coming this way. So the planets that have eezo either dont have that kind of protection or it was a "lucky" shot type of situation. Also if talking about asari then we know that protheans experimented on them some 50k years ago, same as the jellyfish.
#14
Posté 26 juillet 2014 - 03:13
As I remember the formation of Eezo required a supernova or a very active star acting upon normal matter like an asteroid. then these asteroids would fall upon a planet to form the eezo deposits on the planet. In our case we have several large gas giants in the outer reaches of our solar system acting as shields by drawing in most of the asteroids coming this way. So the planets that have eezo either dont have that kind of protection or it was a "lucky" shot type of situation. Also if talking about asari then we know that protheans experimented on them some 50k years ago, same as the jellyfish.
I don't think the Protheans intervention is responsible for the Asari biotic ability though. Or if that is the writers' intent, it wasn't well thought out.
Thessia itself is the most eezo-rich of the known planets in the galaxy, and most species on the planet are said to be biotically active. Eezo is far too common on the planet for it to have been introduced by the Protheans, particularly considering that both the planet itself and life on it must have predated the rise of the Prothean Empire by billions of years. The Protheans ramming Eezo-rich asteroids into Thessia would have had devastating effects on life. There would also be evidence of such a heavy bombardment, considering it would have happened somewhere between 50,000 years and 127,000 years before the start of ME1.
More likely in my opinion, is that the eezo was introduced to Thessia during the planet's formation. The dust cloud that eventually formed the Parnitha system was probably eezo rich.
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#15
Posté 27 juillet 2014 - 01:48
I didnt meant that protheans introduced eezo into the Thessia's soil, I meant that considering that protheans were fans of tampering with other species I would not be surprised if they found original asari on the planet and then introduced a few genetic changes to make them better biotics so they could fight in the coming war against reapers. Also it could be the reason for their ability to reproduce with any species, original asari might have only had the ability to do that with their own people but protheans changed them so they could do it with anyone. After all a species that can reproduce with anyone, have powerful biotics and reveres them as gods would really be useful in a war of attrition. After all even if there is only one asari left she can easily restore the whole species since there is no genetic problems humans would have if limited to a small population size.
#16
Posté 27 juillet 2014 - 06:02
I don't think the Protheans intervention is responsible for the Asari biotic ability though. Or if that is the writers' intent, it wasn't well thought out.
Thessia itself is the most eezo-rich of the known planets in the galaxy, and most species on the planet are said to be biotically active. Eezo is far too common on the planet for it to have been introduced by the Protheans, particularly considering that both the planet itself and life on it must have predated the rise of the Prothean Empire by billions of years. The Protheans ramming Eezo-rich asteroids into Thessia would have had devastating effects on life. There would also be evidence of such a heavy bombardment, considering it would have happened somewhere between 50,000 years and 127,000 years before the start of ME1.
More likely in my opinion, is that the eezo was introduced to Thessia during the planet's formation. The dust cloud that eventually formed the Parnitha system was probably eezo rich.
IIRC on the Thessia Mission, Javik makes comments about how the Protheans used Thessia's eezo reserves to make the Asari biotics when you activate the Temple's artifacts and Liara is around. I think the VI also talks about it a little, if Javik is in the party.
#17
Posté 28 juillet 2014 - 10:39
Yeah I just played through the Thessia mission and Javik did indeed say that Asari biotic abilities were a product of many years of genetic engineering. VI doesnt say anything about that but it was clear that early asari development from mathematics, agriculture to astronomy were all protheans teaching them.
#18
Posté 29 juillet 2014 - 04:38
Yeah I just played through the Thessia mission and Javik did indeed say that Asari biotic abilities were a product of many years of genetic engineering. VI doesnt say anything about that but it was clear that early asari development from mathematics, agriculture to astronomy were all protheans teaching them.
It has been awhile since I've played that. I do remember Javik having dialogue to that effect, but can't recall the specifics. Does he state that the Protheans made the Asari biotics, or could his dialogue also be interpreted as meaning that the Protheans tampered with and improved the natural biotic abilities of the Asari?
The latter would make more sense IMO, considering Thessia is so heavily seeded with Eezo that it shows up in particle form in their water and food. Also from having evolved in that enviroment many of the native animal and plant species on Thessia are said to be biotically active.
#19
Posté 29 juillet 2014 - 05:30
Because if Earth had eezo people would be naturally biotic, and we wouldn't need organizations like Cerberus to torture children to try and unlock biotic potential.
Oh man... we could've had justicars instead.
#20
Posté 30 juillet 2014 - 08:31
Well he just says that asari biotics are a result of long research, he did not say that they did not have them before. After all we do know that they adapted to the eezo in their soil anyway so they might have simply weak biotics like humans or weaker.
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