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[DragonKingReborn]

Mary said it.

 

Thanks, Maria.
 

[Tremere]

Mary Kirby.

Would you mind pointing me to the source, because I see where Brianne Battye talks about him, but there's no mention of him being made Knight-Commander of the Kirkwall Templars. Just that he saw how the Templars failed their charges and in their duty to protect Kirkwall and so he moved on to find a cause he could believe in.

[Dermain]

Would you mind pointing me to the source, because I see where Brianne Battye talks about him, but there's no mention of him being made Knight-Commander of the Kirkwall Templars. Just that he saw how the Templars failed their charges and in their duty to protect Kirkwall and so he moved on to find a cause he could believe in.

 

I believe it was more along the lines that he took temporary charge of the templars in Kirkwall because he was the highest ranking one besides Meredith. It may have been mentioned in the twitter thread, but I wouldn't remember which page it would be on.

[Tremere]

I believe it was more along the lines that he took temporary charge of the templars in Kirkwall because he was the highest ranking one besides Meredith. It may have been mentioned in the twitter thread, but I wouldn't remember which page it would be on.

Thanks Dermain.

[Beerfish]

How is it ridiculous to think MP DOESN'T take resources away from SP? There is really nothing counter-intuitive about assuming that it does.  And there is certainly nothing antagonistic about thinking that way either.  But you're right about one thing, it is incredibly antagonistic to accuse people who are agaisnt MP that they are asocial and no-life losers.

Except that the game makers on numerous occasions have come out and said mp has a totally separate budget and team.  thus making it counter intuitive.  Also it is incredibly antagonistic to assume all multiplayer people are slathering morons or 12 year olds that throw tantrums.  The basis of quite a few comments I see that are very anti multiplayer from step one assumes that the game makes are bald face liars.

[SofaJockey]

Many people prefer to play solo in games, it's not that they don't like other people, just that they don't want the MP or "social" experience that comes from that. They want the experience that they can really only get in single-player. Not always wanting to do something where other people can be involved doesn't mean they have a problem with other people.

This.
Giving different people those choices is a good thing.
If MP is there for those who want it and non-impacting and not required for those that don't, then everyone is happy (hopefully)

[Gozzu91]

Wow, that Wyrmslayer at the end! I'd guess that means dragon-mounts would be confirmed, maybe, if this leak is true?
That's a downer imo.

[RustyW]

How is BioWare not commenting "messing you around"
all this stuff about MP has been fan speculation.
It's not BioWare's fault these forums suffer from a chronic lack of perspective.
They owe you a game, and only if you buy it.
you don't like the way they do business spend your money elsewhere.

I accept what you say, I can only describe my outburst as frustration.

I am surprised as to my somewhat mis guided & non logical comment, it is not like me to be passionate without thinking things through, I am more of a 'reflector' in the way I think things through & when I do not you get things like that.

I apologise.

[dekkerd]

Wow, that Wyrmslayer at the end! I'd guess that means dragon-mounts would be confirmed, maybe, if this leak is true?
That's a downer imo.

Unless you mean a drake mount, nope.
http://forum.bioware...unt/?p=17047596

[Maeshone]

I feel like the inclusion of a combat revive usable by any class a la ME3/GoW might be a hint to multiplayer. Imagine if no one plays mage, you'd still need some form of ressurrection for when you inevitably get incapacitated. Or I'm just reading too much into it, who knows? 

[DalishRanger]

Many people prefer to play solo in games, it's not that they don't like other people, just that they don't want the MP or "social" experience that comes from that. They want the experience that they can really only get in single-player. Not always wanting to do something where other people can be involved doesn't mean they have a problem with other people.

 

Indeed. I'm very sociable and, as my fiance puts it, "one of those weird 'people' people.'" However, with very few exceptions, I don't tend to bother with most multiplayer and I've never cared for MMOs. I think they're fine for what they are, they just don't suit my personal gaming tastes. If I am to do multiplayer, I prefer it to be in person, side-by-side old school style - or in a closed environment with friends only, like the Portal 2 co-op system, or the occasional Civilization V match. Even then, most games are "me" time and I just don't feel like interacting with others in the process. I find it less stressful and more enjoyable; no outside social pressures or expectations.

 

That said, it's not the end of the world if Inquisition does indeed have multiplayer. If it's something along the lines of NWN's, heck, it might even be one of the exceptions and I might indulge it a bit. If it's like ME3's... I'd avoid it like the plague. I don't care for waves and death match grinds. They get boring within a few minutes and I find them far more vexing than enjoyable. I don't even care if there's achievements I can't get if I opt out of MP. Most of the time, I don't even bother with achievements, not intentionally. As long as we're not hindered from a "best/optimal" ending or lacking important content if we choose not to touch MP, I'm largely indifferent to its inclusion.

 

Would be nice to get a dev confirmation, but eh - I imagine they'll reveal when they're able. My profession works alongside marketing and I know how strict control of public information can be during a campaign.

[DragonKingReborn]

I feel like the inclusion of a combat revive usable by any class a la ME3/GoW might be a hint to multiplayer. Imagine if no one plays mage, you'd still need some form of ressurrection for when you inevitably get incapacitated. Or I'm just reading too much into it, who knows? 

 

It could well be.  But it could also be simply a variation on the Mythals Favour Grenade in DA2, which allowed any class to revive a fallen companion but only within grenade throwing distance.

[Maria Caliban]

You could solo ME 3 MP or make a private lobby with only people you know.

[Aaleel]

I doubt that.

 

If these forums have taught me anything it is that 90% of those people hate their friends and much prefer to only ever play with themselves over and over again.

 

This is nonsense.  Maybe if they're playing a SP story driven game, they just want to play a SP story driven game.  I play basketball, paintball, and do many things with my friends, but if I want to play a SP game on my own, that's what I want to do.

 

But most MP I've tried just wasn't my cup of tea anyway.  I tried the MP in ME3 with my friends one time but fighting wave after wave of enemies got old really fast.  After the umpteenth time I was told to hold out until extraction, eliminate all enemies, or just simply 'survive' I just said I was done. 

 

Co-op play is really the only thing I like.  If I could co-op through some sort of side missions that add to the game's story, provide some background story then fine.  But it MP is just fighting waves of demons on the same handful of maps then no thanks.

[phunx]

In the new trailer did you guys see the how Dorian was reviving? It seems like a method that would be suited for MP (ME 3 did it the same way).

 

Btw I am not saying this is an "action" way of reviving because (even tabletop) RPGs had that kind of stabilazing for ages.

[Vortex13]

In the new trailer did you guys see the how Dorian was reviving? It seems like a method that would be suited for MP (ME 3 did it the same way).

Btw I am not saying this is an "action" way of reviving because (even tabletop) RPGs had that kind of stabilazing for ages.

Reviving, dodging/combat rolls, jumping, etc. All of these elements do point to a more action oriented Dragon Age; which would tend to lend itself better to a MP mode.

I personally hope that MP is in DA:I. I really, really want to play a whirling dervish of a rogue, while my friend rains icy death upon our foes with his magic.

[ElitePinecone]

If it's any consolation, Gamescom is the place where - if an MP mode does exist - it would be announced. 

 

That's less than two weeks away. I reckon if there's still nothing said there, it won't be in the game.

 

(Though that being said, it's totally in the game.)

[Beerfish]

If it's any consolation, Gamescom is the place where - if an MP mode does exist - it would be announced. 

 

That's less than two weeks away. I reckon if there's still nothing said there, it won't be in the game.

 

(Though that being said, it's totally in the game.)

BioWare has been better at keeping the lid on things for the most part with this game in this regard than I thought they would be.  This is a pretty big feature of a game so one would have thought something more concreted would have filtered out by now.  Should be interesting to see what Gamescom has to offer.

[Chron0id]

If it's any consolation, Gamescom is the place where - if an MP mode does exist - it would be announced. 

 

That's less than two weeks away. I reckon if there's still nothing said there, it won't be in the game.

 

(Though that being said, it's totally in the game.)

No it's not.  And as well it shouldn't be. 

[DragonKingReborn]

Here's an idea...how about we all agree to discuss it as if we aren't part of the development team and frame everything as though it hasn't been confirmed or denied by Bioware.

Doing anything else at this point smacks of trolling, given how much feeling the subject invokes.

[Chron0id]

Except that the game makers on numerous occasions have come out and said mp has a totally separate budget and team.  thus making it counter intuitive.  Also it is incredibly antagonistic to assume all multiplayer people are slathering morons or 12 year olds that throw tantrums.  The basis of quite a few comments I see that are very anti multiplayer from step one assumes that the game makes are bald face liars.

And you take what game makers say at face value? lawlz

 

Game makers lie just as much as politicians.  The only difference is that politicans tend to do it less tactfully because they don't have the luxury of a computer screen between them and their audience.  Game makers also said that ME 3 wouldn't have  A, B, or C, endings.  We all know how that turned out.  Game makers also tend to make bogus exaggerations, false promises, bloated claims, and other such nonsense to hype their games and do damage control.   Point is, I take what game makers say with a mountain of salt.

[SofaJockey]

And you take what game makers say at face value? lawlz

Game makers lie just as much as politicians. The only difference is that politicans tend to do it less tactfully because they don't have the luxury of a computer screen between them and their audience. Game makers also said that ME 3 wouldn't have A, B, or C, endings. We all know how that turned out. Game makers also tend to make bogus exaggerations, false promises, bloated claims, and other such nonsense to hype their games and do damage control. Point is, I take what game makers say with a mountain of salt.

It's very hard to make a constructive response to your post.

I think to suggest that BioWare is pushing out lies is unwarranted.
Regardless of anyone's view of the ending of Mass Effect 3,
It has passed reasonableness to hang those scripting decisions probably made four years ago
like a rotting albatross around the neck of the writing and development team.
I hope you will reconsider your views which go beyond fair criticism and stray into plain rudeness.

[Beerfish]

And you take what game makers say at face value? lawlz

 

Game makers lie just as much as politicians.  The only difference is that politicans tend to do it less tactfully because they don't have the luxury of a computer screen between them and their audience.  Game makers also said that ME 3 wouldn't have  A, B, or C, endings.  We all know how that turned out.  Game makers also tend to make bogus exaggerations, false promises, bloated claims, and other such nonsense to hype their games and do damage control.   Point is, I take what game makers say with a mountain of salt.

Then there is really nothing at all to discuss in that case.  No information of any type is going to be believed by you on this topic other than your own speculation which is no more, in fact less reliable than the most other sources.  At least you will be happy either way.  If it is not included you will be happy as a clam and if it is included you will be happy as a clam because then you can blame any and all ills of he single player game on multiplayer.  You win both ways.

[Chron0id]

It's very hard to make a constructive response to your post.

I think to suggest that BioWare is pushing out lies is unwarranted.
Regardless of anyone's view of the ending of Mass Effect 3,
It has passed reasonableness to hang those scripting decisions probably made four years ago
like a rotting albatross around the neck of the writing and development team.
I hope you will reconsider your views which go beyond fair criticism and stray into plain rudeness.

I don't consider it rude to point out facts.  But I apologize if I offended you.