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[Killdren88]

Oh good.

 

Because everyone always said that Dragon Age needed multiplayer.

 

Tremendous, really.

 

Apparently you can't have a game be taken seriously without Multiplayer.

[dekkerd]

Also it...really didn't take that long to get the bare minimum of characters imported for the 5 seconds of animation or so tacked on the end. At least compared to the average play time for a playthrough of ME3, anyway.
 
And it honestly just doesn't make sense in general because one would think people who do not like multiplayer in their game...would not play the multiplayer in their game. IE one would think the kind of person who would care a lot about the fact that they were locked from 5 seconds of animation tacked on the end unless they played MP would probably be the sort of person who never touched the mode and instead kept complaining until Bioware changed it.

No one cares how long it took, it shouldn't have been required at all.

And that 5 second line was crap back then, and is crap now.

It was the only ending with the character you had played for 3 games managing to live.

Ending. To a story. You've played for years.

Calling it 5 seconds of animation or tacked on implies you have no interest in the characters or story. In other words, you're playing the wrong game.

[N7recruit]

Thing is it literally makes no sense for them to keep their Multiplayer mode a secret (If it exists). None What So Ever. Like what is the point? The game was essentially Done when E3 rolled around so Why not show it off or hell at least talk about it when Millions of gamers are watching. 

 

Personally I'm Not buying it. No way this Leak is legit. No way Bioware/EA marketing are Stupid enough to keep something as major as a mulitplayer component Secret this close to Launch. WHAT IS THE F'ING POINT? Although EA have surprised me before with their Stupidity so Anything is possible at this stage 

[Rawgrim]

EA has partnered up with Microsoft. Microsoft wants more Xbox Live Gold subscriptions. EA adds multiplayer (sometimes forced) to every title the toss out. Simple logic.

[TheodoricFriede]

Apparently you can't have a game be taken seriously without Multiplayer.

Bunch of non-sense.

 

Wasting resources that should be spent on your main game. Your RPG.

[Killdren88]

Bunch of non-sense.

 

Wasting resources that should be spent on your main game. Your RPG.

 

As much as I'm not a MP fan I will say that they have separate resources for SP and MP. We don't have to worry about that.

[NoForgiveness]

 

 

It's been painfully obvious for a long now that Inquisition just doesn't have a multiplayer mode. 

 

 

Doesn't matter if it's fake or not. It's pretty damn obvious theirs to going to be a multiplayer mode anyway.

 

I would say this is proof that its only "obvious" that its not obvious if mp will or will not be in.

[TheodoricFriede]

As much as I'm not a MP fan I will say that they have separate resources for SP and MP. We don't have to worry about that.

There is no such thing.

 

If you have two different teams working on the same game, that's still a whole second team that could be working on the main game.

 

Put those guys on side-missions. Hell they would be better off as QA then adding an unneeded, unrequested, tacked on, half baked, multiplayer mode.

[Jawzzus]

There is no such thing.

 

If you have two different teams working on the same game, that's still a whole second team that could be working on the main game.

 

Put those guys on side-missions. Hell they would be better off as QA then adding an unneeded, unrequested, tacked on, half baked, multiplayer mode.

 

I did not know you made games, which company do you work for?

[TheodoricFriede]

I did not know you made games, which company do you work for?

I briefly worked for Activision and Disney Interactive.

 

I have also made some small games on my own time.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I would say this is proof that its only "obvious" that its not obvious if mp will or will not be in.

 

If it didn't have an mp, I think Bioware would have denied it by now. Instead they avoid the question a lot.

 

Two of my other favourite anticipated games, The Witcher 3 and Batman: Arkham Knight, are coming out in 2015 compared to DAI which comes out in 2014 and they have already said that there game has no mp. What's stopping Bioware from also saying no about multiplayer? I could be wrong since I ain't psychic or work on Bioware PR team but the fact that they keep avoiding answering that question makes me suspicious.

[Rawgrim]

I did not know you made games, which company do you work for?

 

 

I make games, and I back up his claim.

[RealityMachina]

Calling it 5 seconds of animation or tacked on implies you have no interest in the characters or story. In other words, you're playing the wrong game.

1) Insulting the other party instead of actually addressing my point. Wonderful way to win an argument. You are the Napoleon of internet debates here.

 

2) The reason I call it 5 seconds of animation is because I'm totally willing to admit I'm still annoyed that was what apparently made that the "Golden" ending way back at release considering everything else.

 

3) I actually don't have another point here, I'm just ****** baffled you're focusing on something I put about 5 seconds of thought into typing instead of actually trying to address my point.

 

I mean, c'mon, literally the easiest way to signify to a video game company that you don't like something they did is to stop playing their game. With the ME2 and ME1 games right there on most people's consoles and/or computers, surely people who were pissed at the whole multiplayer thing could have had the integrity to not actually play something they hate, no?

[Ianamus]

I think people are missing something very obvious

 

Since when does a multiplayer mode have only one achievement associated with it?

 

Honestly, the gullibility here is pretty shocking. 

[dekkerd]

There is no such thing.
 
If you have two different teams working on the same game, that's still a whole second team that could be working on the main game.
 
Put those guys on side-missions. Hell they would be better off as QA then adding an unneeded, unrequested, tacked on, half baked, multiplayer mode.

Devs have disagreed with you. Not questioning your own experience, but there it is. Check the other MP thread for examples.

[Jawzzus]

I briefly worked for Activision and Disney Interactive.

 

I have also made some small games on my own time.

 

That's cool, really and truly.

 

I make games, and I back up his claim.

 

Same as above.

 

However to both, David Gaider has made multiple statements on tumblr that that's not the case at BioWare.  He's also re(whats it called when you repost a thing on Tumblr?)posted articles from other Devs, saying the same thing about how MP doesn't take away from SP.

[TheodoricFriede]

Devs have disagreed with you. Not questioning your own experience, but there it is. Check the other MP thread for examples.

Um...

You think the devs would come out and say that "Multiplayer is detrimental to the single-player experience"?

 

They aren't even allowed to say if someone is a romance option.

[TheodoricFriede]

 

However to both, David Gaider has made multiple statements on tumblr that that's not the case at BioWare.  He's also re(whats it called when you repost a thing on Tumblr?)posted articles from other Devs, saying the same thing about how MP doesn't take away from SP.

Yes, and Casey Hudson said Mass Effect 3 would have 16 unique endings.

 

As it turns out, people lie when they are trying to sell you a product.

[MarchWaltz]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought it worked out like:

 

Bioware: Hey, we want to make the third DA better, give us actual money and actual time this time around and we will make you tons of cash. We need x amount of money.

 

EA: Fine. But we want MP. Use y to make a MP section and team.

 

I assume EA doesn't let them put y into x, they just want all of y to be used on MP.

[Dermain]

I think people are missing something very obvious

 

Since when does a multiplayer mode have only one achievement associated with it?

 

Honestly, the gullibility here is pretty shocking. 

 

People are claiming that having one achievement shows that the multiplayer will be small, tacked on, useless etc etc.

 

They're confirming (confirmation bias) their beliefs on the presence of a likely fake achievement instead of questioning the validity of the achievement itself.

 

It's quite amusing really.

 

 

Um...

You think the devs would come out and say that "Multiplayer is detrimental to the single-player experience"?

 

They aren't even allowed to say if someone is a romance option.

 

If they weren't allowed to say who was a romance option we would not know 6/8 of them. 

 

We would still be at 0/8.

[NoForgiveness]

If it didn't have an mp, I think Bioware would have denied it by now. Instead they avoid the question a lot.

 

Two of my other favourite anticipated games, The Witcher 3 and Batman: Arkham Knight, are coming out in 2015 compared to DAI which comes out in 2014 and they have already said that there game has no mp. What's stopping Bioware from also saying no about multiplayer? I could be wrong since I ain't psychic or work on Bioware PR team but the fact that they keep avoiding answering that question makes me suspicious.

 

Im kind of in the middle on this one. but with all this debate about it, I don't really think either side can claim its "obvious"

[RealityMachina]

However to both, David Gaider has made multiple statements on tumblr that that's not the case at BioWare.  He's also re(whats it called when you repost a thing on Tumblr?)posted articles from other Devs, saying the same thing about how MP doesn't take away from SP.

I'm going make a technical correction here: MP can totally take away from SP if it's a last minute addition that isn't properly supported by budget increases and delays as such, since by then it'll have no pre-existing budget to run on.

 

The sticking point is, well, what I just said. If it's planned properly it and SP will be running on completely separate budgets, and to quote the guy Gaider was quoting:

The important thing to realize here is that there is no situation where the single player game will get the additional resources that would have gone to the development of the multiplayer components unless revenue forecasts can somehow support that the additional resources spent will result in additional revenue. The single player game is estimated from the get go to require a certain budget. There might be stretch goals for the single player, but the multiplayer budget is actually an entirely separate bid. Because it’s a separate bid, even if you cut that feature, you wouldn’t get to reallocate the resources that would have been allocated for it. You just wouldn’t get them at all.

[Rawgrim]

Yes, and Casey Hudson said Mass Effect 3 would have 16 unique endings.

 

As it turns out, people lie when they are trying to sell you a product.

 

I also remember it being said by the marketing people, that Neverwinter Nights would let you import your BG2 character, and the story would carry on in NWN. And that the Witch Hunt dlc would explain Morrigan's dark secrets. It didn't.

[Malanek]

Thing is it literally makes no sense for them to keep their Multiplayer mode a secret (If it exists). None What So Ever. Like what is the point? The game was essentially Done when E3 rolled around so Why not show it off or hell at least talk about it when Millions of gamers are watching. 

 

Personally I'm Not buying it. No way this Leak is legit. No way Bioware/EA marketing are Stupid enough to keep something as major as a mulitplayer component Secret this close to Launch. WHAT IS THE F'ING POINT? Although EA have surprised me before with their Stupidity so Anything is possible at this stage 

 

It is odd but there could be reasons. They have take an approach where they prefer not to talk about things until they can  show them. They were not working on Multiplayer a bit over a year ago (there was a dev tweet about that) so it is entirely possible that it was a late addition and they are simply not ready to show it. They may not even know at this stage if it will be ready to ship and may push it back for a later download.

 

I suspect there will eventually be a DA multiplayer. ME3 MP was far too successful for them to ignore altogether. If there definitely wasn't one I think they would have told us, just like they did a year ago. There is something up but I don't believe it is ready yet.

 

Oh, and OP, nice find. I suspect it is legit but not certain on that. And even if it is legit it is unfinished work that is subject to change and could be misleading. But still very interesting, thanks for sharing.

[dekkerd]

1) Insulting the other party instead of actually addressing my point. Wonderful way to win an argument. You are the Napoleon of internet debates here.
 
2) The reason I call it 5 seconds of animation is because I'm totally willing to admit I'm still annoyed that was what apparently made that the "Golden" ending way back at release considering everything else.
 
3) I actually don't have another point here, I'm just ****** baffled you're focusing on something I put about 5 seconds of thought into typing instead of actually trying to address my point.
 
I mean, c'mon, literally the easiest way to signify to a video game company that you don't like something they did is to stop playing their game.

I didn't insult you. Could go that way if you prefer, but really don't have the time.
Why would not playing the game concern them? They have your money, that's all that matters.
The majority of your post seemed focus on how little you would have to play MP to achieve a "tacked on" ending. I explained why that in itself is the problem. Sorry if you can't see that.