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See quotes for the response. I'm not interested in reposting. I just think I said enough the first time to let most of that conversation stand.
I'll add a couple of things:
- the Catalyst is not saying that every Synthetic victory will result in the complete destruction of all Organic life, but that Synthetics will eventually do it, probably due to the recurring conflict.
- the Catalyst's description of Synthetic rebellions is given in very general inclusive non-specific terms to represent emergent patterns of behavior, not specific circumstances or instances. The Synthetic rebellions that we know of quite easily fit into this description. To me, you have to actively not want the story to make sense to interpret the Synthetic rebellions that we know of (Metacon Wars, Zha'til, Geth, Synthetic Organic conflicts before the first Reaper War) as not part of the Synthetic rebellions that the Catalyst describes. To me these instances are quite obviously part of the pattern, the repeating pattern that the Vendetta VI described.
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That the Leviathans were once a great civilization that ruled the galaxy for eons, does not preclude them from blundering or falling victim to complacency or hubris. We only need to look at our own history...
That is interesting, but was not the argument. You described Leviathan and the Catalyst in incompetent and pejorative terms (because of their admitted failures) to bolster a depiction of "fallible" and "flawed" beings incapable of making an accurate prediction of the inevitable Synthetic Organic conflict and destruction of all Organics by Synthetics.
I'm simply pointing out that your description is missing a big part of what these being are, and what they have done. Leviathan's and the Catalyst's control of the galaxy demonstrates considerable competence. Arguments of "flawed" and "fallible" beings are far less compelling when that is taken into account.
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The Catalyst was not your standard A.I. like EDI or the Geth. It wasn't designed to handle the cyber warfare suite of a single star ship or to serve as manual labor, it was designed to manage the Leviathan's empire. It was something more akin to Skynet from the Terminator series. It was able to bring down the mighty Leviathan Empire because it already had control over many of the functions necessary for that civilization to function.
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That's an interesting interpretation.
I do not subscribe to that version of the fall of Leviathan from the information we were given, since it assumes a level of ineptitude not befitting beings that were rulers of the galaxy.
My interpretation is that Leviathan created a more segregated intelligence that was capable of communicating and studying, and that this intelligence exceeded the bounds placed on it unbeknownst to its creators. I have that interpretation simply because that is the logical way an intelligence would be created to solve a problem in a society wary of the dangers of AI. Certainly the Catalyst was given (too wide) a degree of latitude to operate in, but I would assume that was far more restricted than what you are describing.
Since the mega structure that the Geth were building seems eerily similar to a Reaper, I would not assume that the Reaper's capabilities are singular and unique in AI. They are a demonstration of the power that AI unbridled by the constraints of organic evolution can marshal.
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