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[AventuroLegendary]

Morrowind is the only good elder scrolls game.

 

Daggerfall.

[Mr.House]

Why would 6th generation games show up on a list about the 7th generation?

Persona 3 and Persona 4 where re-released in a new enhanced port, ergo it should count, Nocturne and DDS are better then half the crap on that list so why not?

[Voxr]

 

 

Bcuz Obsidian, I would say.

 Hmm. I suppose so. Other than NwN2 and KOTOR 2 I've never really been impressed with their games but maybe I'm a freak that way.

[Dominus]

FF XIII has literally the same combat experience as FF VII except you only control one party member. The same.

Don't recall the paradigm system in FF7. I liked the paradigm system , arguably my favorite feature in there. For those who hate characters being class-restricted, that's probably a breath of fresh air in JRPGS. The main combat isn't dramatically different from FF7(or most after that, anyhow). Outside of paradigm and being restricted to one character, it's roughly the same. That, and a different camera angle compared to having them set up almost in an isometric top-downformat, with more of a cinematic angle.

[Dominus]

Wait, are you saying the isometric format is cinematic?

lol no. The Summons, Limit Breaks(and to a point, Magic usage) in FF7 was cinematic compared to its predecessors, but it's fairly static most of the time. I was saying FF13 in comparison had something closer to an over-the-shoulder view than something more classical.

Dom, just saying that they play pretty much the same way

Pretty much, it's all the same philosophy.

I don't mind it being called the best final fantasy of this generation, but one of the best RPGs of this generation is a bit of a stretch to me.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Adding Valkyria Chronicles was a nice touch. Under appreciated game.

 

Won't comment too much on the rest, it's a clickbait list. The order of "best of" lists are almost always worth less than the paper they're written on. It's more about what makes the list, the justification for it or about finding new games you weren't aware of and learning about them.

 

Though I did lol @ FFXIII and Diablo 3 making the list.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

So which was the best Final Fantasy? VII, X or XII?

I predict FF XV will beat them all.

[Liamv2]

Depends on who you ask. The general answers you get are 4, 6, 7, 9 and 10.

[Liamv2]

But all of them are wrong except for the ones who say 9.

 

FF7 and 9 are the only ones I haven't played. (Disregarding the MMO crap)

[Liamv2]

Well i'll pick up 9 someday and I will play 7 when FF15 and KH3 come out.

[Khayness]

Again, there's no Deus Ex Human Revolution or Divinity Original Sin on the list

 

DOS came out a month ago, and is a PC exclusive title, that's hardly last gen material.

[Sasie]

This list makes me sad. Mostly because it just shows once again how few good RPGs there was in the last generation. Personally I think ME2 should have been number 1. Once all the DLC was released it was actually quite a nice game that fixed some of the issues of the vanilla version of the game.

Skyrim though doesn't deserve to be on the list at all. It's a RPG for people who don't play/like RPGs. ME2 for all it's flaws did a much better job with drawing new people to the genre without sacrificing everything it stands for.

[TheChris92]

The list deserves credit for at least including among the best JRPGs last gen which was Xenoblade and Valkyria, but FFXIII - Blergh, there were better RPGs, if not JRPGs, that beat that game out of the water -- Unique gems like Nier, Lost Odyssey, Last Story, Tales of Vesperia come to mind for instance.

[nici2412]

The list isn't bad. Played all of these games except Dark Souls II and the two Chronicles games.

I wouldn't put Diablo III in it, because it's not a rpg in my opinion and Fallout New Vegas was better than Fallout 3.

The rest is ok, but i would change the order.

 

1. Witcher II

2. Mass Effect II

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3. Dragon Age origins

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4. Final Fantasy XIII

5. Skyrim

6. Fallout 3

 

would be my order, if i only consider the rpgs from the gameinformer list (they ones i have played)

[CronoDragoon]

 Again, there's no Deus Ex Human Revolution or Divinity Original Sin on the list whilst Final Fantasy XIII somehow makes it there. This is why game journalism has become a joke. XIII being there has got to be Gameinformer trolling and it's a job well done I'd say considering it's got this discussion going.

 

"Recently GameInformer released a ranking of top ten RPG games for the previous gen consoles." - from the OP.

 

But I agree with Deus Ex HR. I'd replace XIII with that (and if we kept in Final Fantasy, let's use the superior XIII-2).

 

I also didn't follow Diablo III all that closely, but the only thing I remember about it was a whole bunch of people being really pissed when it was released. For some reason I don't even remember.

 

I don't particularly care for open world games like Skyrim. Bethesda doesn't value what I value in an RPG. But they do what they set out to do extremely well, and a lot of people love them for it. So despite my personal preferences I'm okay with Skyrim being #1. It really was a phenomenon for quite awhile.

 

Mass Effect 2(3), The Witcher 2, and DA Origins are all worthy entries.

 

Haven't played Xenoblade or Dark Souls II.

 

Valkyria Chronicles is an amazing game. Never played a game like it before. Well deserved.

 

I'm about 10 hours into New Vegas and I don't find it significantly better or worse than Fallout 3. Fallout 3 had the better atmosphere, but New Vegas's fame system is interesting, though it has yet to matter story-wise in any significant way. However, I'm playing New Vegas on the PC with patches. If New Vegas had major bug problems on console then I can understand leaving it off.

[Wires_From_The_Wall]

Dear god what a stupid fuking listing. It is like they searched " Games with score of 90 or above" from metacritic and then randomly assembled a list out of them. FO3 in list where New Vegas is not is enough to make it clear guy who assembled this doesn't actually enjoy playing video games. 

 

One useful thing this list does is remind us all how useless and obsolete " RPG" is as a game genre. Diablo 3, JRPgs, Skyrim all happily lumped together. So many, so different games use elements and flavors once associated to " RPGs" that " RPG" in and ofitself as become as meaningful as " lol". 

 

Next up, GWYCIACABEOSK top 20!

(Games Where Your Character Is Able to Collect Ammunition, Boosts or Equipment  of Some Kind top 20

On related note, that is now totally a thing. If you play a game where your character is able to collect ammo, boosts or gear, you need to start calling it a  GWYCIACABEOSK.

[Cyonan]

Dear god what a stupid fuking listing. It is like they searched " Games with score of 90 or above" from metacritic and then randomly assembled a list out of them. FO3 in list where New Vegas is not is enough to make it clear guy who assembled this doesn't actually enjoy playing video games. 

 

One useful thing this list does is remind us all how useless and obsolete " RPG" is as a game genre. Diablo 3, JRPgs, Skyrim all happily lumped together. 

 

Next up, games where your character is able to collect ammunition, boosts or equipment  of some kind top 20

 

To be fair, a number of people prefer FO3 to NV.

 

Although the internet doesn't do very well with handling people who have different opinions.

[CronoDragoon]

For me personally, the lack of a third party member seriously hindered the paradigm system (because my typical party in XIII of the three girls involved each one using four different roles)

 

I was fine with it since I think the Pokemon thing added some more interesting wrinkles to the combat, but really it's a small change that made a gigantic difference that puts XIII-2 over the top: Instant paradigm changes, no more crappy change animation that throws off your timing.

[UltimaBACON]

To be fair, a number of people prefer FO3 to NV.

 

 

And they're all idiots.

[UltimaBACON]

 

I'm surprised you're saying X, because X was a rather linear or so I've heard.

 

 

It was for the most part, but at least there were some places you could branch off. Which is far more than can be said for XIII.