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Interesting. Both seem to be a place to possibly encounter old Dalish/elven spirits, perhaps even converse with them.
Yeah, it would be nice to actually converse with some of the ghosts of the elven ancestors who lived during the time the Dales was a free and independent nation, and not hack and slash our way through them.
It's mentioned that some undead were rising in the Dales, to the point it halted a conflict between Orlesian soldiers in the civil war, but the Exalted Plains are the location that feature the undead becoming an issue. According to the Bioware Blog:
"The Exalted Plains of the Dales are characterized by equal measures of beauty and strife. It was here, centuries ago, that the elven nation met its bitter end. On these fields, the holdouts of the elven army faced the forces of the human Chantry and died, defending their promised land to the last breath. This legacy of conflict has endured, and battle once again rages in the Dales.
"The Exalted Plains are now a contested battleground in the Orlesian civil war, and soldiers fight and die here in vast numbers. As the boundaries of reality weaken across Thedas, the memory of injustices past and present draws the attention of restless spirits who rise to possess the dead and stalk the living across the blood-steeped earth."
It may not be the case that undead are rising up in the Emerald Graves, however; it seems like a rather somber location. According to the website, "Each tree in the Emerald Graves is a reminder of a life lost during the second Exalted March."
I'm surprised you aren't more upset over this. Chances are we'll be protecting orlesian soldiers from undea elves who are angry because they were killed in a last stand before humans took the Dales from them.
I'm surprised you aren't more upset over this. Chances are we'll be protecting orlesian soldiers from undea elves who are angry because they were killed in a last stand before humans took the Dales from them.
sounds like the Dead Marshes to me
I'm surprised you aren't more upset over this. Chances are we'll be protecting orlesian soldiers from undea elves who are angry because they were killed in a last stand before humans took the Dales from them.
I would only take umbrage at the idea of the Inquisitor being forced to side with Orlais. I don't see why the Inquisitor would necessarily be forced to protect either side in the civil war, as it may not even be that the main character will have to side with Celene or Gaspard; Briala may represent an elven choice in the dilemma of the two warring human nobles, and the actions in the Dales could present an opportunity to help and protect the elves, not the Empire.
sounds like the Dead Marshes to me
Beer Marsh Returns!
Beer Marsh Returns!
Eww, the Marsh part just ruins it.
I'm surprised you aren't more upset over this. Chances are we'll be protecting orlesian soldiers from undea elves who are angry because they were killed in a last stand before humans took the Dales from them.
Unfortunately, it seems that these are not friendly spirits. It would appear that mostly the vengeful dead are running amok.
Eww, the Marsh part just ruins it.
It really does, doesn't it.
I would only take umbrage at the idea of the Inquisitor being forced to side with Orlais. I don't see why the Inquisitor would necessarily be forced to protect either side in the civil war, as it may not even be that the main character will have to side with Celene or Gaspard; Briala may represent an elven choice in the dilemma of the two warring human nobles, and the actions in the Dales could present an opportunity to help and protect the elves, not the Empire.
clearly we should be helping the undead spirits that are cutting a bloody swath, because that's totally going to help resolve the crisis
keep in mind that the goal of the Inquisition is to bring an end to the chaos across Thedas, not champion the downtrodden
Unfortunately, it seems that these are not friendly spirits. It would appear that mostly the vengeful dead are running amok.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see some major rage demons either possessing corpses or drawing on the anger of the dead to feed/manifest.
I would only take umbrage at the idea of the Inquisitor being forced to side with Orlais. I don't see why the Inquisitor would necessarily be forced to protect either side in the civil war, as it may not even be that the main character will have to side with Celene or Gaspard; Briala may represent an elven choice in the dilemma of the two warring human nobles, and the actions in the Dales could present an opportunity to help and protect the elves, not the Empire.
I'm not saying the Inquisitor will side with anyone. But if the undead are attacking the living, chances are we'll be siding with the living by default.
It has nothing to do with being pro or anti-elven.
clearly we should be helping the undead spirits that are cutting a bloody swath, because that's totally going to help resolve the crisis
Dealing with the undead doesn't necessitate helping either faction in the Orlesian civil war; it might be possible to dislodge the Orlesian forces from the Dales in the midst of the chaos and deal with the spirits inhabiting the corpses.
keep in mind that the goal of the Inquisition is to bring an end to the chaos across Thedas, not champion the downtrodden
I don't think you're the arbiter on how everyone must play their Inquisitor.
source?
Source for what? The Magisters destroyed Arlathan and enslaved the elves. They were practically jealous of their use of magic and immortality. But this is so long ago and its not wrong to doubt whether elves were actually like that or no.
Source for what? The Magisters destroyed Arlathan and enslaved the elves. They were practically jealous of their use of magic and immortality. But this is so long ago and its not wrong to doubt whether elves were actually like that or no.
or there could have been a variety of causes from the downright normal such as trade disputes and border clashes, or maybe the Elf king was caught in bed with the Archon's wife
All we know about the war is that Tevinter decided that Arlathan needed to cease existing, that tells me they were scared of something going on there
Source for what? The Magisters destroyed Arlathan and enslaved the elves. They were practically jealous of their use of magic and immortality. But this is so long ago and its not wrong to doubt whether elves were actually like that or no.
Or they were simply scared to death of the Elven Empire, and wanted to annihilate them when the elves weren't looking.
All we know about the war is that Tevinter decided that Arlathan needed to cease existing, that tells me they were scared of something going on there
Scared absolutely sh*tless. Given what we see of eluvians and Varterrals, I'd be scared as well.
Or they were simply scared to death of the Elven Empire, and wanted to annihilate them when the elves weren't looking.
Where were the Elves looking, then? Where they admiring each other through the Eluvians?
or there could have been a variety of causes from the downright normal such as trade disputes and border clashes, or maybe the Elf king was caught in bed with the Archon's wife
All we know about the war is that Tevinter decided that Arlathan needed to cease existing, that tells me they were scared of something going on there
It's Academic at this point anyway, like all things involving the elves.
It really doesn't matter.
Where were the Elves looking, then? Where they admiring each other through the Eluvians?
Lol, vanity might have indeed been one of their issues.
Where were the Elves looking, then? Where they admiring each other through the Eluvians?
I'd suspect that as the case.
Lol, vanity might have indeed been one of their issues.
So their civilization was destroyed because they were too fabulous. That's a new one.
At which point have the devs hinted the Inquisition will be a social rigths group?
It's Academic at this point anyway, like all things involving the elves.
It really doesn't matter.
Perhaps, but I'd still like to know how Arlathan, such a magical city, didn't have a single defense against the blood magic Atlantis spell. Shouldn't they have wards or something to fend off magic?
Also, why was the eluvian network shut down so suddenly when it could have probably saved them? Or was there something already trapped within the in between world?
Utterly destroying a city with blood magic over trade disputes seems a little bit TOO excessive even for Tevinter. They wanted Elven culture gone for good.
At which point have the devs hinted the Inquisition will be a social rigths group?
JB, let's drop that train of thought right there, cause it won't end well.
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