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[Master Warder Z_]

[dalish inquisitor]Oh my poor boy, now tell me WHY I should save your decadent society that enslaved my people for hundreds of years and took all you could away from us ? Why should the elves that you despised have to help you ? What good did it do to them when they helped Andraste in her fight ? slavery and misery for countless generations, that's what it brought them ! But now it's OUR turn, and you will beg for OUR help, because I'd rather see this would burn to the grown, rather than see it living an other day, stomping on my people[/dalish inquisitor]

 

Honestly if someone said that to me in person i would likely resolve the tension of the situation via fist meeting face.

 

._.

 

Acting all high and mighty and then projecting as if the individual in front of them was somehow responsible for the actions of societies and governments centuries before their birth.

 

It's egoistical, inaccurate and plain offensive and rude.

 

Seriously uppity knife ears.

[LobselVith8]

I doubt you're going to be allowed to reenact the Elves inaction during the Second Blight.

 

Dislodging an occupying Orlesian force from the Dales isn't the same as the Second Blight.

 

I fear you are going to be very disappointed at how few of your pro-Elven hopes come to pass.

 

You'll have to excuse me if I don't share the pessimism about elven choices as the people who outright hate the Dalish.

[Steelcan]

[dalish inquisitor]Oh my poor boy, now tell me WHY I should save your decadent society that enslaved my people for hundreds of years and took all you could away from us ? Why should the elves that you despised have to help you ? What good did it do to them when they helped Andraste in her fight ? slavery and misery for countless generations, that's what it brought them ! But now it's OUR turn, and you will BEG for OUR help, for I'd rather see this world burn to the ground, rather than see it living an other day, stomping on my people[/dalish inquisitor]

You have a mandate to preserve the world that exceeds any sympathies you may hold, this isn't a job for Robb Stark, this is a job for Stannis Baratheon

[MissMagi]

Trust me, most of us have some pretty thick skin. You're fine lol

Ah, that's good to hear. 

[Vapaa]

 

Honestly if someone said that to me in person i would likely resolve the tension of the situation via fist meeting face.

 

._.

 

Jugement room at noon, be sure to say goodbye to your family, shemlen.

 

Acting all high and mighty and then projecting as if the individual in front of them was somehow responsible for the actions of societies and governments centuries before their birth.

 

It's egoistical, inaccurate and plain offensive and rude.

 

It's my Inquisitor, and everybody shall deal with it, unless an other chap has a glowy hand....somedoby else can save to world ? hmmmm ? nope ! it's just her, now everybody better suck it up.

 

 

Seriously uppity knife ears.

 

U MAD SHEM ?

 

You have a mandate to preserve the world that exceeds any sympathies you may hold, this isn't a job for Robb Stark, this is a job for Stannis Baratheon

 

lol no, I didn't sign any contract.

[TK514]

I'm sure that's Cassandra's reason, but the Inquisitor is likely shaped by the choices made by the player, and therefore an elven protagonist may see an independent Dales as a top priority.

Do you honestly believe they will have written a game where you can prioritize the conquest of the Dales over saving the world?

[Hellion Rex]

Honestly if someone said that to me in person i would likely resolve the tension of the situation via fist meeting face.

I'd use a fireball. Much more satisfying.

[Lulupab]

Honestly if someone said that to me in person i would likely resolve the tension of the situation via fist meeting face.

 

._.

 

Acting all high and mighty and then projecting as if the individual in front of them was somehow responsible for the actions of societies and governments centuries before their birth.

 

It's egoistical, inaccurate and plain offensive and rude.

 

Seriously uppity knife ears.

 

I think the person Vapaa quoted was an Elven Lambert don't you think? Everything matches.

[LOLandStuff]

Elves were losing their women...men to hunky rugged shem.

[Steelcan]

lol no, I didn't sign any contract.

you must have gotten real upset in Mass Effect when you had to save the galaxy or in RDR when you had to work with the government

[Steelcan]

I'd use a fireball. Much more satisfying.

I'd sit on my couch and have someone spill their guts into the sands of the arena

[MisterJB]

I'm sure that's Cassandra's reason, but the Inquisitor is likely shaped by the choices made by the player, and therefore an elven protagonist may see an independent Dales as a top priority.

The Inquisition is not composed solely of the Inquisitor.

You've got soldiers, you've got backers, you've got allies. All of them expecting you to restore order and close the Breach, most of them human.

While it might be possible to incorporate an outcome positive for the elves that also accomplishes the Inquisition's goals, if the Inquisitor starts prioratizing it over doing what his soldiers, etc, expect him to do, he'll find himself without support quickly. They may even decide cutting the magic hand off is worth the risk.

 

 

There was a choice provided with the dilemma between Zathrian and the Lady of the Forest, where the protagonist could side with one over the other; perhaps the situation will allow the Inquisitor to side with the elves, instead of the Orlesians.

 

As for the undead, if it's spirits from the Beyond inhabiting corpses from the war, it may simply be a matter of hack and slash, rather than any civil discourse.

I was referring only to the undead elves, not the living ones.

I had already said that.
 

[Vapaa]

I think the person Vapaa quoted was an Elven Lambert don't you think? Everything matches.

 

Nah, Lambert fought against the mages for a (supposed) greater principle, my Inquisitor on the other hand will fight for the good of her people as her ultimate motive.

 

you must have gotten real upset in Mass Effect when you had to save the galaxy or in RDR when you had to work with the government

 

Ah, but my Shepard had every reason to save the universe, her species was developping and spreading, she had a reason to preserve a statu quo, my dalish is more "why would I bother ? it's not like anyone ever bothered for us"

[LobselVith8]

Do you honestly believe they will have written a game where you can prioritize the conquest of the Dales over saving the world?

 

I can imagine the rampant racism of Orlesian society against elves, and the recent mass murder of thousands of men, women, and children in Halamshiral, would be sufficient reason for an elven Inquisitor to have little interest in saving the status quo. The inclusion of the elven option makes me consider that it's unlikely that the story will force the protagonist to save the Orlesian status quo.

[LOLandStuff]

Do you honestly believe they will have written a game where you can prioritize the conquest of the Dales over saving the world?

 

Just shows how messed up the elves priorities are.

Darkspawns running amok destroying everything in their sight? Let's sit and watch.

The Fade tearing itself apart and demons pouring in? Let's take advantage of the situation and reclaim the Dales.

 

And then they whine why they're having it hard.

[LobselVith8]

I think the person Vapaa quoted was an Elven Lambert don't you think? Everything matches.

 

She could have tried a Watchmen style elven Inquisitor:

 

The accumulated filth of Orlesian slavery and murder will foam up about their waists and all the chevaliers and nobles will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll look down and whisper "No."

[Master Warder Z_]

I think the person Vapaa quoted was an Elven Lambert don't you think? Everything matches.

 

._. Lambert was more Eloquent.

 

Plus he had a motive beyond some self fulfilling prophecy of destruction. 

[MisterJB]

[dalish inquisitor]Oh my poor boy, now tell me WHY I should save your decadent society that enslaved my people for hundreds of years and took all you could away from us ? Why should the elves that you despised have to help you ? What good did it do to them when they helped Andraste in her fight ? slavery and misery for countless generations, that's what it brought them ! But now it's OUR turn, and you will BEG for OUR help, for I'd rather see this world burn to the ground, rather than see it living an other day, stomping on my people[/dalish inquisitor]

Because the entirety of the Inquisition's power rests upon human society and without which it will collapse?

[Lulupab]

Nah, Lambert fought against the mages for a (supposed) greater principle, my Inquisitor on the other hand will fight for the good of her people as her ultimate motive.

 

 

Ah, but my Shepard had every reason to save the universe, her species was developping and spreading, she had a reason to preserve a statu quo, my dalish is more "why would I bother ? it's not like anyone ever bothered for us"

 

Well from his perspective, acting high and mighty, blaming all mages for Tevinter and being rude. These did match. The cause of the Inquisitor has much less vanity than Lambert's though 

[Master Warder Z_]

She could have tried a Watchmen style elven Inquisitor:

 

The accumulated filth of Orlesian slavery and murder will foam up about their waists and all the chevaliers and nobles will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll look down and whisper "No."

 

o.o And then the Inquisitor gets turned into a pile of ashes after suffering a mental breakdown and ripping aside their burlap sack of justice.

[Master Warder Z_]

Because the entirety of the Inquisition's power rests upon human society and without which it will collapse?

 

They apparently forget that bit.

[LobselVith8]

The Inquisition is not composed solely of the Inquisitor.

You've got soldiers, you've got backers, you've got allies. All of them expecting you to restore order and close the Breach, most of them human.

While it might be possible to incorporate an outcome positive for the elves that also accomplishes the Inquisition's goals, if the Inquisitor starts prioratizing it over doing what his soldiers, etc, expect him to do, he'll find himself without support quickly. They may even decide cutting the magic hand off is worth the risk.

 

Considering that a mage protagonist can prioritize siding with the mages fighting to maintain their autonomy from the Chantry over helping restore the status quo, I think it's still a possibility to help the Elvhen.

 

I was referring only to the undead elves, not the living ones.

I had already said that.

 

I wasn't disagreeing with you about the undead.

[Vapaa]

Because the entirety of the Inquisition's power rests upon human society and without which it will collapse?

 

But why would my Inquisitor care about human society ?

[Steelcan]

I can imagine the rampant racism of Orlesian society against elves, and the recent mass murder of thousands of men, women, and children in Halamshiral, would be sufficient reason for an elven Inquisitor to have little interest in saving the status quo. The inclusion of the elven option makes me consider that it's unlikely that the story will force the protagonist to save the Orlesian status quo.

And I can equally imagine the events of the novels being largely ignored in true BioWare fashion

[Master Warder Z_]

But why would my Inquisitor care about human society ?

 

Because without it, you won't be able to accomplish anything?

 

It seems pretty obvious.