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[LOLandStuff]

But why would my Inquisitor care about human society ?

 

 

Because each time they didn't give a damn, they got owned.

[MisterJB]

I can imagine the rampant racism of Orlesian society against elves, and the recent mass murder of thousands of men, women, and children in Halamshiral, would be sufficient reason for an elven Inquisitor to have little interest in saving the status quo. The inclusion of the elven option makes me consider that it's unlikely that the story will force the protagonist to save the Orlesian status quo.

Did the rampant racism of Ferelden society prevent the priority being to end the Blight?

[Steelcan]

But why would my Inquisitor care about human society ?

because thats who funds you, supplies you, etc... unless its the dwarves or qunari, extremely doubtful

 

this isn't an elven organization, take a look at the advisors

[Master Warder Z_]

Did the rampant racism of Ferelden society prevent the priority being to end the Blight?

 

I don't think it did

[MisterJB]

But why would my Inquisitor care about human society ?

Because without human society, the Inquisition collapses and the Inquisitor becomes nothing more than a walking green lamp.

Do you like your power? Do you want to keep your authority? Then you need human society, because your army will be mostly composed of humans and your fundings will come from wealthy humans and taxes levied upon humans.

[Lulupab]

If we are having over 40 endings I bet pro-elven is one of them.

[LobselVith8]

Did the rampant racism of Ferelden society prevent the priority being to end the Blight?

 

The story about saving Ferelden from the Fifth Blight isn't the same as the story of stopping the Breach, and there were choices within the narrative to help the casteless and the elves.

[Steelcan]

The story about saving Ferelden from the Fifth Blight isn't the same as the story of stopping the Breach, and there were choices within the narrative to help the casteless and the elves.

which is why I am sure there will be options to help them, but putting it all on hold to get the Dales back just isn't gonna happen

[Vapaa]

Because each time they didn't give a damn, they got owned.

 
That's because they didn't have the biggest weapon of mass destruction

Spoiler

A PLAYER CHARACTER

 

 

because thats who funds you, supplies you, etc... unless its the dwarves or qunari, extremely doubtful

 

this isn't an elven organization, take a look at the advisors

 

Yes, but ultimately, it's my Dalish who will close the breach, and without a land for her people she'd rather slit her throat.

[TK514]

I can imagine the rampant racism of Orlesian society against elves, and the recent mass murder of thousands of men, women, and children in Halamshiral, would be sufficient reason for an elven Inquisitor to have little interest in saving the status quo. The inclusion of the elven option makes me consider that it's unlikely that the story will force the protagonist to save the Orlesian status quo.

Just like with the Hinterlands, right?

I feel pretty confident that they added additional races so players could express various views of the events they wrote to happen, not so we could disregard the plot and go do our own thing.

I fully expect you to be able to express your opinion on Orlais. You might even be able to negotiate some Elven Boon. And then, when you're done with your pro-elf diatribe, you'll have to accept one of the required Celene/Gaspard factions anyway.

[Master Warder Z_]

The story about saving Ferelden from the Fifth Blight isn't the same as the story of stopping the Breach, and there were choices within the narrative to help the casteless and the elves.

 

Narratives, but the main focus never ceased being ending the threat to the world, Inquisition will likely be the same in that regard.

 

The main focus always will be ending the threat to the world from the fade.

[LobselVith8]

If we are having over 40 endings I bet pro-elven is one of them.

 

Given the developers making it clear that some areas are optional (like the Highlands), and that the player will determine their outlook on certain matters (citing the view of magic as one example), I doubt that some of the posters here are going to get their wish about there being no pro-elven choices within Inquisition.

[Vapaa]

Because without human society, the Inquisition collapses and the Inquisitor becomes nothing more than a walking green lamp.

Do you like your power? Do you want to keep your authority? Then you need human society, because your army will be mostly composed of humans and your fundings will come from wealthy humans and taxes levied upon humans.

 

No and that's the thing, my Dalish will use her power and authority to gain a land for the elves, but if that's not gonna happen, then good luck with the breach.

[Steelcan]

Given the developers making it clear that some areas are optional (like the Highlands), and that the player will determine their outlook on certain matters (citing the view of magic as one example), I doubt that some of the posters here are going to get their wish about there being no pro-elven choices within Inquisition.

none of us have said there will be no opportunities to take a pro-elf stance, but resurrecting the Dales seems beyond far fetched

[Icy Magebane]

I find it hard to believe that a group mainly composed of human soldiers will be on board with the idea of actively participating in any efforts to retake the Dales in the midst of all this chaos.  It might be possible to support such a rebellion if one is already in progress, or to support allies who are in favor of elven rights... but leading the charge would deviate too far from the Inquisition's primary objective, thus I find it highly unlikely.

 

The biggest problem I have with this idea is that I don't think Bioware has any plans to have the Dalish do this, or anything similar, on their own.  I think they are in favor of the Dalish remaining rootless wanderers and the city elves remaining impoverished with little hope of social mobility.  So I wouldn't get my hopes up that the Inqusition can be used in such a way.  It's more likely that minor changes will occur, if any... maybe we'll have a choice of saving or butchering a Dalish clan like in every other game.  Who knows.

 

It doesn't change my views on what I think should occur, but I am under no illusion that anything that favors the elves is likely to occur.

[Steelcan]

No and that's the thing, my Dalish will use her power and authority to gain a land for the elves, but if that's not gonna happen, then good luck with the breach.

good luck getting around to actually playing the game then

[MisterJB]

The story about saving Ferelden from the Fifth Blight isn't the same as the story of stopping the Breach, and there were choices within the narrative to help the casteless and the elves.

Help. Yes.

Place the king willing to introduce reforms into the throne. Kill slavers. Ask for a boon.

But the Warden didn't take command of the armies s/he had gathered and decided to go West to kick the Orlesians out of the Dales and extablish an elven state.

The Blight was the priority and the Breach will be the priority. But you'll still probably have options to help elves.

[LOLandStuff]

Sure, because an organization as big as the Inquisition formed mostly of humans is going to accept letting the world burn just to help some poor elves get their turf back.

[LobselVith8]

Just like with the Hinterlands, right?

 

You're taking about something entirely different, which is the problematic issue of the import system, not the agency of choice within the context of the story.

 

I feel pretty confident that they added additional races so players could express various views of the events they wrote to happen, not so we could disregard the plot and go do our own thing.

I fully expect you to be able to express your opinion on Orlais. You might even be able to negotiate some Elven Boon. And then, when you're done with your pro-elf diatribe, you'll have to accept one of the required Celene/Gaspard factions anyway.

 

This is where I disagree with people like you, because I don't think saving Orlais is the plot of Inquisition.

[Master Warder Z_]

none of us have said there will be no opportunities to take a pro-elf stance, but resurrecting the Dales seems beyond far fetched

 

Like me turning the Inquisition into a mage destroying horde that rampages across Thedas to restore the balance of Power.

 

._. Unfortunately that is unlikely.

[Vapaa]

good luck getting around to actually playing the game then

 

Didn't the devs said the demons can win ? there you go.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

You have a mandate to preserve the world that exceeds any sympathies you may hold, this isn't a job for Robb Stark, this is a job for Stannis Baratheon

 

I'm totally going to make a Stannis Inquisitor after my Archer Inquisitor.

[LOLandStuff]

Didn't the devs said the demons can win ? there you go.

 

 

No wonder nobody likes elves.

[Lulupab]

Sure, because an organization as big as the Inquisition formed mostly of humans is going to accept letting the world burn just to help some poor elves get their turf back.

 

What about in exchange for their support? That's what happened with Andraste too, she promised to free them and she did. It didn't turn out well afterwards but she kept her end of the bargain.

 

All Dalish combined is so much valuable source than a few barbarian humans living in a thick forest.

[Steelcan]

I'm totally going to make a Stannis Inquisitor after my Archer Inquisitor.

. That's been my plan since day 1