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[Master Warder Z_]

That's only one of my many Inquisitors.

 

Are they all basically the same person with just a different gender or race?

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Are they all basically the same person with just a different gender or race?

 

Some of them are going to be fanatical about the mages instead no doubt.

[Vapaa]

When you said "Good job failing at logic.".

 

It's not an insult, it's an observation

 

Are they all basically the same person with just a different gender or race?

 

See for yourself:

 

Then I will let the demons win and move to my others Inquisitors; the Mage freedom apologist, the True neutral, the Mage spremacist, the Anti-mage, the Andrastian, etc...

[LobselVith8]

I never said I hated the Dalish. I hate some things they do, but that's it. Don't put words in my mouth. 

 

You have said that you hate the Dalish. I even responded to the post where you said precisely that. Let's not pretend that it didn't happen.

 

And you think I don't? I do believe in the post you just quoted I said I wanted to help the elves get better treatment. But I'm not going to be "They won't change, so let them all die." That's worse than anything those people have done. Especially since most are innocent people caught in the crossfire.

 

I highly doubt that the people will all perish if the abhorrent Orlesian system isn't brutally oppressing the elven people.

[Master Warder Z_]

Some of them are going to be fanatical about the mages instead no doubt.

 

You called it.

 

Kudos.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

 

 

 

I highly doubt that the people will all perish if the abhorrent Orlesian system isn't brutally oppressing the elven people.

 

We both know that isn't what that fine person was talking about Lob, stop mischaracterizing.

[Master Warder Z_]

You have said that you hate the Dalish. I even responded to the post where you said precisely that. Let's not pretend that it didn't happen.

 

Generally this sort of tactic works better with a citation.

 

Just pointing that out.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

You called it.

 

Kudos.

 

It's almost like there's a pattern with Dalish supporters...

 

Like fanatical Templar supporters... but opposite!

[Vapaa]

You called it.

 

Kudos.

 

Maker forbid making a fanatical pro-mage

 

Because noting I'll also make characters from the other spectrum (be it anti mage or anti elf), or even neutral, was not worth it ?

[LOLandStuff]

You'd think the main priority would be the Fade tears and not Orlais.

 

"Abhorrent" "Brutally oppressing" It makes me cringe and want to stab an elf.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

You'd think the main priority would be the Fade tears and not Orlais.

 

"Abhorrent" "Brutally oppressing" It makes me cringe and want to stab an elf.

 

It has got me feeling positively Tevinter.

 

Blood sacrifices for everyone!

[Vapaa]

You'd think the main priority would be the Fade tears and not Orlais.

 

"Abhorrent" "Brutally oppressing" It makes me cringe and want to stab an elf.

 

Not everybody is forced to care, it all come down to how you roleplay your character.

[Hellion Rex]

Where ?

Good job failing at logic.

[MisterJB]

Ideally, it'll be optional. I have trouble imagining that the developers wouldn't realize that some players wouldn't want to help either Celene or Gaspard, especially given the repellent aspects of their society.

Repugnant or not, they're still the most powerful nation in Thedas. What exactly do you believe the game will allow one to do?

Side with Briala, expell humans from the Dales and then...side with neither Gaspard nor Celene thus leaving Orlais ina vacuum and the Inquisition without the soliders necessary to defeat the demons?

 

One war or another, there will be a plot dealing with the fate of Orlais and I doubt you'll be allowed to skip it and stick only to the Dales.

[Icy Magebane]

You'd think the main priority would be the Fade tears and not Orlais.

 

"Abhorrent" "Brutally oppressing" It makes me cringe and want to stab an elf.

His accurate description of Orlesian culture, a nation whose most respected knightly order drunkenly kills city elves as part of their initiation ritual, makes you want to stab elves?  Huh?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It's not an insult, it's an observation

An insulting observation. And ironic since you thought I was stating a fact when my sentence started with the word if. 

 

You have said that you hate the Dalish. I even responded to the post where you said precisely that. Let's not pretend that it didn't happen.

 

 

I highly doubt that the people will all perish if the abhorrent Orlesian system isn't brutally oppressing the elven people.

If I did, I don't recall. I know I've said "I hate how the Dalish *insert fault here*" but that's it in my recollection. So if I did, it was a heat of the moment argument and not my true opinion on the subject. 

 

No, but leaving them to the ravages of civil war and the Veil Tears could. Which is what some people are saying they will do. 

[TK514]

The Emerald Knights during the Second Blight didn't step in during a crisis against a neighbor who was an enemy, and who had conquered the other city-states in a series of Exalted Marches. The fact that some of us have no interest in maintaining the status quo of the Orlesian Empire isn't comparable, as Gaspard and Celene are rather repugnant individuals, and the Orlesian system is one that has permitted chevaliers to rape and murder people. 

 

Also, it's been pointed out that some of us would prefer an alternative to Celene and Gaspard, as helping maintain the status quo of the Orlesian Empire is simply out of the question.

 

And if the humans had lost against the Darkspawn?  The Dalish would have been exterminated right along with everyone else.  You would have to think very poorly of their intelligence if you believe they couldn't come to that conclusion.

[Tevinter Rose]

this thread 

[Master Warder Z_]

It's almost like there's a pattern with Dalish supporters...

 

Like fanatical Templar supporters... but opposite!

 

I AM NOT A FANATIC!

 

...Okay, maybe i am!

 

But at least i admit it.

[Vapaa]

An insulting observation. And ironic since you thought I was stating a fact when my sentence started with the word if.

 

People picked my Dalish who is is purely MY creation to justify the hate the dalish in general, who are BIOWARE'S creation.

 

Where is the logic here ?

[Icy Magebane]

Repugnant or not, they're still the most powerful nation in Thedas. What exactly do you believe the game will allow one to do?

Side with Briala, expell humans from the Dales and then...side with neither Gaspard nor Celene thus leaving Orlais ina vacuum and the Inquisition without the soliders necessary to defeat the demons?

 

One war or another, there will be a plot dealing with the fate of Orlais and I doubt you'll be allowed to skip it and stick only to the Dales.

This is likely going to be one of those choices that tests the resolve of the PC or calls their morality/goals into question... I also have my doubts that it's avoidable.  It might just come down to making a hard decision to mitigate whatever damages the player thinks they will cause, and hope for the best.  The bottom line is that the Inquisitor has limited influence.  S/he'll likely have to just make decisions like this and accept that the consequences are largely out of their hands.

[LOLandStuff]

His accurate description of Orlesian culture, a nation whose most respected knightly order drunkenly kills city elves as part of their initiation ritual, makes you want to stab elves?  Huh?

 

Those words he used are just so full of drama.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

I AM NOT A FANATIC!

 

...Okay, maybe i am!

 

But at least i admit it.

 

It is alright brother! Those damned apostates won't escape justice in the end!

[Icy Magebane]

Those words he used are just so full of drama.

Indeed, but you must admit that there are many who would make light of a serious problem.  Orlais is a pretty bad place to live, for both human commoners and city elves.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Indeed, but you must admit that there are many who would make light of a serious problem.  Orlais is a pretty bad place to live, for both human commoners and city elves.

 

And yet none one ever seems to spare a thought for the humans at the bottom of the rung, just the elves and the Special snowflake Dalish.