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[Nimlowyn]

It annoys me that it seems like the books and whatnot are being tied into the game universe. I already have a to-read list that's about 20 books long and I have no interest in adding more books to it. Add to that the fact that now the books feel like they're 'required reading' and that's really, really off-putting to me. I haven't done 'required reading' since I was at university and frankly the best way to make me not read a book is to tell me I have to read it to understand what's going on. To make it 'required reading'. Call it my own little imp of the perverse - the more you tell me I should read something, the less I want to read it and the more I will actively dislike it.

You do not have to read the books to understand what is going on. They add more content, but they are not required reading. 

[Jazzpha]

My guess is that DAI will compensate for people who haven't read Asunder or TME. Even if you don't know who Rhys, Gaspard or Evangeline are, it's not too hard for context to be given in a couple short scenes with a few lines of dialogue that aren't too expositorally "on the nose".

Just like we had no idea what Bhelen and Harrowmont were all about in DAO at first, but after a couple questions to each of them you had a pretty solid idea.

[Rosey]

I've devouered them all, and quite frankly you need absolutely none of them.

 

They give you character depth, and sometimes help you grasp WHY a character is reacting that way, but honestly none of the information in the books are things you NEED, and if there is, it will be in the game enough to fill you in. They really are just different views on what's moving and shaking in Thedas/Thadau. So fear not if you haven't read them/don't want to. If you're curious you can spend an afternoon trolling the wiki. If you're not, it's not at all going to hamper your enjoyment of the games.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

I've just started skimming through the non-game material, and I've discovered some rather crazy things... like Alistair's real mother. Like... what? I didn't even know this was a controversial question. Wow.

 

So it appears that Dragon Age's expanded universe content is far more important than Mass Effect's. I mean, significant plot progression has actually happened. I feel like I'm not caught up on the story at all.

 

The expanded universe material to Mass Effect is just as important as the Dragon Age material. 

[Ailith Tycane]

People seem to get confused about this all the time. In regards to Loghain, just because you have a reason for being evil doesn't make you not evil. Loghain was a dick head, and while his actions were understandable from a "Well if I were crazy that might make sense to me" kinda way, he was still wrong and doing evil things. 

[Nimlowyn]

 

People seem to get confused about this all the time. In regards to Loghain, just because you have a reason for being evil doesn't make you not evil. Loghain was a dick head, and while his actions were understandable from a "Well if I were crazy that might make sense to me" kinda way, he was still wrong and doing evil things. 

 

Cailan was going to dump Anora and marry Celene, making an Orlesian empress Queen of Ferelden. Given how hard they fought and how many died to free Ferelden from the Orlesians, Loghain's paranoia and outrage is understandable. But does it justify betraying Maric's son to his death, causing a civil war and selling elves into slavery? Nope. (It was especially devastating reading in the books how Maric trusted Loghain to look after Cailan. Sigh. Great stuff).

 

From what I understand, if you recruit Loghain, he sees the error of his ways and desires to repent. I haven't seen this though since I love Alistair too much to have him leave.

[Heimdall]

Cailan was going to dump Anora and marry Celene, making an Orlesian empress Queen of Ferelden. Given how hard they fought and how many died to free Ferelden from the Orlesians, Loghain's paranoia and outrage is understandable. But does it justify betraying Maric's son to his death, causing a civil war and selling elves into slavery? Nope. (It was especially devastating reading in the books how Maric trusted Loghain to look after Cailan. Sigh. Great stuff).

From what I understand, if you recruit Loghain, he sees the error of his ways and desires to repent. I haven't seen this though since I love Alistair too much to have him leave.

Just to say, Loghain didn't even know Cailan was planning that.

[Nimlowyn]

Just to say, Loghain didn't even know Cailan was planning that.

I thought he was?

 

He at least knew he Cailan was going to bring in Orlesian troops to assist with the Blight (which Loghain didn't take seriously). I had thought he'd discovered Cailan's plan, though. 

[Maria Caliban]

Is there anyway to recruit Loghain early? I went Circle -> Redcliff -> Forest -> Orzimarr -> Landsmeet and then almost immediately the final battle.

[Razored1313]

[/quote]
Just in case I will say spoiler, but this is in response to another spoiler so... Duh
Let me try... Goldanna is the child of a maid that died giving birth to her second child. What is not revealed in DAO is that the child also died. Duncan and Eamon see this rare opportunity to hide baby Allistar's true parentage and replace the dead baby with the new born Allistar. Growing up Allistar thinks the secret behind his parents is that his father was the King, but the real secret that is being kept from him is his real mother was an elf who was cured of the taint... Of those who know the truth only Eamon (and possibly Allistars real mother) remain.[/quote]


I agree that this is the most likely scenario but I doubt that Eamon was aware of Alistair true parentage (well regarding his mother) and genuinely believed him to be the son of the maid. I am willing to bet that the only person still alive who is aware of the truth is Fiona herself

[Eternal Phoenix]

My guess is that DAI will compensate for people who haven't read Asunder or TME. Even if you don't know who Rhys, Gaspard or Evangeline are, it's not too hard for context to be given in a couple short scenes with a few lines of dialogue that aren't too expositorally "on the nose".

Just like we had no idea what Bhelen and Harrowmont were all about in DAO at first, but after a couple questions to each of them you had a pretty solid idea.

 

This.

 

I don't think Bioware would make a game that would force people to read the books. Asides from being able to catch up with characters by a couple of questions, we also have the Codex, as usual, which will probably give us more of a catch up on these characters and the events that took place between DA2 and Inquisition.

[cindercatz]

big HUGE SPOILER I guess

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wait, Fiona's the elf that's Alistair's true mother? Or am I forgetting who's who? Wasn't the City Elf warden's mother's name Fiona? And Duncan knew her, adventured with her in the past... (the CE's mother) ... .... ..... ...... WOW. So Alistair and fCE are half siblings? It's Luke and Leia that didn't find out in time? Is that right? And then that makes the betrayal at the end of DA:O even worse.    Ok, well that's interesting.

[X Equestris]

big HUGE SPOILER I guess
 
 
 
 
 
 
Wait, Fiona's the elf that's Alistair's true mother? Or am I forgetting who's who? Wasn't the City Elf warden's mother's name Fiona? And Duncan knew her, adventured with her in the past... (the CE's mother) ... .... ..... ...... WOW. So Alistair and fCE are half siblings? It's Luke and Leia that didn't find out in time? Is that right? And then that makes the betrayal at the end of DA:O even worse.    Ok, well that's interesting.

No, Fiona is an elven Grey Warden from Orlais who features in The Calling. She later becomes Grand Enchanter. The CE's mother is Adaia, who is seen in the Leliana's Song dlc. Totally different people.

[NRieh]

 

Goldanna is the child of a maid that died giving birth to her second child. What is not revealed in DAO is that the child also died. Duncan and Eamon see this rare opportunity to hide baby Allistar's true parentage and replace the dead baby with the new born Allistar.

Yeah, sure. Eamon had plenty of pregnant maidens, just in case. No one knows when you might need one, right? Also, according to the DAO dialogues Goldanna seemed to know that her mom had been impregnated by a king. That's why she was given money and told to stay quiet.

[cindercatz]

No, Fiona is an elven Grey Warden from Orlais who features in The Calling. She later becomes Grand Enchanter. The CE's mother is Adaia, who is seen in the Leliana's Song dlc. Totally different people.

Alright, cool Thanks ^^

[Dr. wonderful]

I actualy love the comics, and the books...except for:

 

To this day, I can't fit this in, ANYWHERE. The table top games are easier compare to this.

 

Still, Gleam was kind of cool. 

[davidselite737]

damned orlesians... Kappa

[Morroian]

I couldn't put Asunder down but I can't get past the first chapter of Masked Empire. (I don't know what the difference is. It just seems kind of ... political? Instead of interesting lore wise, with demons and such.)

 

Is there super relevant stuff in there for DAI do you reckon?

 

Oh man you should really read on if magical lore is what you like. 

[Force of the North]

Yeah, sure. Eamon had plenty of pregnant maidens, just in case. No one knows when you might need one, right? Also, according to the DAO dialogues Goldanna seemed to know that her mom had been impregnated by a king. That's why she was given money and told to stay quiet.

Easily explained: the maid was not impregnated by the king, but by a lesser noble who wants nothing to do with her. Instead of explain what happens she tell her little girl it was a king (kids believe what you tell them). She was paid to keep quite because she knew just enough to get people looking in the right direction.
As far has having a pregnant maid handy just remember it was far more common to die in child birth back then (then meaning the time in history a lot of dragon age is based on).


For those wanting to know what happens in The Calling but don't want to read, there are some good youtube videos.

[noxpanda]

Does anyone know where you can buy the books to read online? Not an e-reader version that is. I have bad eyes, so conventional books are no longer an option for me and sadly i dont own an e-reader. I found the comics on dark horse, which is cool, ill grab them at some point, but i cant find the books

[Vroom Vroom]

I don't consider them important or required, especially as there's a wiki.

 

I feel the same way. The wiki is absolutely fantastic, I was thrilled with the quality of it when I first came across it. I also find it very likely that Dragon Age: Inquisition and its in game Codex will touch base on all of the relevant/important events in the novels to get those of us that haven't read them caught up. From what I hear there are a lot of Codex entries inside of Inquisition.

[hexaligned]

Does anyone know where you can buy the books to read online? Not an e-reader version that is. I have bad eyes, so conventional books are no longer an option for me and sadly i dont own an e-reader. I found the comics on dark horse, which is cool, ill grab them at some point, but i cant find the books

Not sure what you mean, you can read Ebooks on your PC.  

Kindle PC Ereader: http://www.amazon.co...ocId=1000426311

Kindle DA Ebook: http://www.amazon.co...k/dp/B0030V0PEM

 

I don't know that, that specific one will work for you.  I have one on my laptop, but I can't remember what it is off the top of my head.  

[BadgerladDK]

Does anyone know where you can buy the books to read online? Not an e-reader version that is. I have bad eyes, so conventional books are no longer an option for me and sadly i dont own an e-reader. I found the comics on dark horse, which is cool, ill grab them at some point, but i cant find the books

 

Kindle for windows? I know you said no e-reader versions, but at least the windows version will let you put it on a comfortable screen size.

 

http://www.amazon.co...ocId=1000426311

[noxpanda]

Oh awesome, thanks guys! I didnt realise kindle did an ap for the pc, i just presumed everything kindle was just for the physical kindle. Yay

[BadgerladDK]

Pretty sure they'd make a Kindle for toasters if they thought people would use it. Damned thing is everywhere, hehe