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I love the books, but I love reading...and I love books probably a bit too much, they smell so nice though don't they?

 

I wouldn't say it's required reading, but if you love the lore, the characters and the world and you also love reading books then it's a no brainer. 


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Some people need a better imagination they need to look at the comics as Visiting a Alternative Universe or like Reading Marvel what if or Ultimate Universe

However, you have to keep in mind that your Warden DOESN'T know this.

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I still need to get that library edition, I think its made up of four comics or something. Does anyone recommend it?



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Came in here to ask, essentially, the same thing. I loved the Mass Effect comics, they reveal a ton of interesting back story on Feron and the Illusive Man, for example. But I don't think I'd love them if I didn't play the games. So, what I've come to ask is would I like the Dragon Age comics if I haven't played the games?



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To be honest, I don't think so. The comics have allusions to what went before to jog people's memories, but I'm not sure somebody not already invested in Alistair, Varric, Isabela and Sten as characters or Thedas as a setting would get a lot out of them.

 

(As someone who is invested in the characters and setting, though, I enjoyed them a lot.)


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To be honest, I don't think so. The comics have allusions to what went before to jog people's memories, but I'm not sure somebody not already invested in Alistair, Varric, Isabela and Sten as characters or Thedas as a setting would get a lot out of them.

 

(As someone who is invested in the characters and setting, though, I enjoyed them a lot.)

 

If you get the Library Edition (all three issues in one book) you also get Gaider's comments further explaining the "canon" being used. Of course prior (also after) to the release of the original comics Gaider did say that the comics followed his OWN PERSONAL canon, but that the stories were still occurred regardless of the player canon.

 

The difficulties of working in a universe that can be heavily affected by player choice.



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Came in here to ask, essentially, the same thing. I loved the Mass Effect comics, they reveal a ton of interesting back story on Feron and the Illusive Man, for example. But I don't think I'd love them if I didn't play the games. So, what I've come to ask is would I like the Dragon Age comics if I haven't played the games?

 

The novels definitely stand on their own. Dawn of the Seeker also stands on its own, although the quality isn't nearly as great as the novels or the games. The comics don't really stand on their own, and neither does The World of Thedas. Both the comics and TWoT contain spoilers as well, where the first two novels and DotS do not.



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I'd say the only book that is ''required'' reading is Stolen Throne for DA:O, because otherwise the Loghain character's motivations will make little sense.

People keep saying that, but I found his character made perfect sense in the actual game. You could tell he did what he did to protect his country from what he saw as the greater threat and was ruthless and uncompromising in his methods. He may have been wrong (the blight was the greater threat) but I found his character to be relatable and his actions understandable. Statements like this painted a pretty clear picture of what he went through

 

"Traitors! Which of you stood against the Orlesian Emperor when his troops flattened your fields and RAPED YOUR WIVES? You fought with us once, Eamon! You cared about this land once, before you got too old and fat and content to even see what you risk! NONE OF YOU deserve a say in what happens here! None of you have spilled blood for this land the way I have! HOW DARE YOU JUDGE ME!"

 

When I read The Stolen Throne I feel I learned little about his character that wasn't already shown in the game.


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I'd be surprised if anything introduced in a book isn't explained in detail (like the Architect). I'd be even more surprised if the comics weren't explained (I'm expecting comics to be only offhand references, mostly there for optional back story, but not directly effecting the plot).



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I've read none of the books but have looked up summaries and plots, same for the comics.

 

I've got enough of a vague grasp.



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I like that they are tangelly related at best so they dont stomp on player choice

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Asunder especially is pretty handily the best video game tie-in I've read.

 

...mind you, I've read like fifteen total, and half of those are BioWare-related, but still, good book.


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I do not consider reading the books to be necessary reading. They tend to be away from where the game plot is and since your character doesn't know what happened over there you certainly don't need too.

 

I do however love reading them. I love immersing myself in more dragon age and its characters, and I love learning more about the lore and world. 

 

I do not find it difficult to divorce player knowledge from character knowledge - but then I supposes I'm used to doing that in tabletop RPGs.



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I couldn't put Asunder down but I can't get past the first chapter of Masked Empire. (I don't know what the difference is. It just seems kind of ... political? Instead of interesting lore wise, with demons and such.)

 

Is there super relevant stuff in there for DAI do you reckon?

 

Major major major relevant stuff to DAI.  TME starts off really slow, i even remember thinking that.  It gets better, trust me....  Still liked asunder better though.

 

The next book The last flight is scheduled to be released in sept, has a lot to do with the wardens around the same time asunder and TME takes place.  This one has flashbacks though, and due to a major spoiler on amazon hints at the return of griffons possibly.  Still might give us some insight to why the inquisition goes toe to toe with the wardens though.



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They tend to be away from where the game plot is and since your character doesn't know what happened over there you certainly don't need too.

It really depends. In case of 'ME' and 'Asunder' - it's pretty obvious to me, that both Elf and Human inquisitors should be more or less familiar with those events (if not involved directly). Dwarves should have some clue as well, as they are highly interested in the Lyrium market dynamics. Qunari, probably, is going to have the worst share of meta-gaming, as I see no reason for an ordinary sword\staff-for-hire to be interested in politics and such. They just need someone to pay the highest bid.    



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My take is that the game shows you what is happening, but the books cover a lot of why these things are happening.

It will be interesting to see how they deal with all the material covered in Asunder and The Masked Empire in Inquisition, since a lot of it looks fairly integral to the plot. I was talking to a guy at work the other day who also a DA fan, but he has not read the books, and the amount of background he didn't know due to not having read them was a real eye opener. It made me realise just how much important stuff is in them. Bioware are going to have a lot of background to fill in Inquisition if it's going to make sense to people who haven't read any of the books.

As for comics, they are fun, and provide done interesting backstory for Varric and Isabella, but they are pretty peripheral to the main story due to their bring off in "Bioware's canon" by themselves.

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The third and fourth book, and the comics, depend greatly on how people played the game, though. Characters who can die in the games are important in those books etc. Especially the comics.



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It really depends. In case of 'ME' and 'Asunder' - it's pretty obvious to me, that both Elf and Human inquisitors should be more or less familiar with those events (if not involved directly). Dwarves should have some clue as well, as they are highly interested in the Lyrium market dynamics. Qunari, probably, is going to have the worst share of meta-gaming, as I see no reason for an ordinary sword\staff-for-hire to be interested in politics and such. They just need someone to pay the highest bid.    

The general state of the world stuff sure(mages vs templars, the civil war celene vs gaspard, rebellion at halamshiral). And I'm sure the game will mention that stuff and any other general facts its likely our inquisitors would know. I was more referring to the specifics, what precisely happened between Celene/gaspard, which templar helped mages, cole etc. I would assume the amount of people who know about the eluvians and that Briala has them are limited for example, and wouldn't include our inquisitor unless/unitl we run into them in the course of the game. 



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Asunder especially is pretty handily the best video game tie-in I've read.

Both "Asunder" and "The Masked Empire" stand out as the only video-game tie-ins I know which are on the same level as reasonably good regular written fiction. I'm very happy to see that happening since it may indicate that video games as a storytelling medium are in the process of acquiring some maturity. It is very odd, however, to see these good examples coming from the same developer as the worst one (ME:Deception). Man, that was the epitome of awful, and I've seen a lot of awful over the years.

Anyway, I don't think "Asunder" and "The Masked Empire" are required reading, but they do enrich the world and let you view things from a different perspective, and since they're actually fun to read, there is no reason not to do that.
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From the dark horse comics.... ,anyone else love the Qunari version of Calenhad?

I know I do :)

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I don´t have to read any books or comics, I play the games.



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Darkly Tranquil

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I don´t have to read any books or comics, I play the games.


You can do that if you like, but you will be missing out on a lot of the detail that enriches the world and characters that appear in the games.

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From the dark horse comics.... ,anyone else love the Qunari version of Calenhad?

I know I do :)

I was with Alistair however. I´m tired of deconstructed heroes.