Unless DA:I explicitely tells me otherwise, I know exactly where my Warden-Commander is: Weisshaupt.
But at the end of DA2 Both the Warden and Hawke are said to have disappeared. Which tells me that either they left with Morrigan or a third party was involved in the disappearance. And I'm willing to bet it is the same third party that is responsible for the Fade tear.
But at the end of DA2 Both the Warden and Hawke are said to have disappeared.
"Disappeared" can mean anything. Until the game proves me wrong, I maintain that "the hero was never heard from again" is just one of the oldest, most common tropes of RPG campaigns ever, to get former heroes out of the picture so the players focus on the new one, and there's nothing particularly foreshadowing in Hawke and Warden fading into obscurity once their songs have been sung. The world has simply moved on, and it's Inquisitor time.
Like I said, unless DA:I explicitely tells me otherwise, I know where my heroes are. My Warden "disappeared" in as much as he is not where Leliana thought she might find him, and the Wardens won't tell her where he went because the Commander's affairs are none of her or the Chantry's business. My Hawke also "disappeared" in as much as Varric won't tell Cassandra where he went even under torture and threat of death, because he knows Hawke is 500% done with mage/templar drama and just wants some peace and quiet, and he won't be the one to give his friend away. It's a simple case of, they're gone, but no one's telling where. They still exist somewhere out there - their friends just refuse to let the Chantry turn them into pawns for its own interests, and so they're written off as "disappeared" and Leliana and Cassandra have to look for a new hero somewhere else.
I could be wrong, of course, and that's alright too. The game could start with Corypheus sucking the souls out of the Warden and Hawke for breakfast and dropping their dead bodies to the ground like potato sacks. Cool beans, all headcanons retconned, no harm done. But as long as all we have to go by is "disappeared" and no solid resolution is ever given, I'll keep my endgame scenarios. They fit my characters' stories better than any conspiracy theory.
I've gone off-topic enough, though. Back to Grey Wardens in Ferelden, and such.
What ever it was they were up to in Kirkwall I suppose -- Gaider said a while back, when I pointed this out, that they'd give some insight on as to the reasons of the Warden's sudden presence in Kirkwall. Can't remember which thread it was though.
"Disappeared" can mean anything. Until the game proves me wrong, I maintain that "the hero was never heard from again" is just one of the oldest, most common tropes of RPG campaigns ever, to get former heroes out of the picture so the players focus on the new one, and there's nothing particularly foreshadowing in Hawke and Warden fading into obscurity once their songs have been sung. The world has simply moved on, and it's Inquisitor time.
Like I said, unless DA:I explicitely tells me otherwise, I know where my heroes are. My Warden "disappeared" in as much as he is not where Leliana thought she might find him, and the Wardens won't tell her where he went because the Commander's affairs are none of her or the Chantry's business. My Hawke also "disappeared" in as much as Varric won't tell Cassandra where he went even under torture and threat of death, because he knows Hawke is 500% done with mage/templar drama and just wants some peace and quiet, and he won't be the one to give his friend away. It's a simple case of, they're gone, but no one's telling where. They still exist somewhere out there - their friends just refuse to let the Chantry turn them into pawns for its own interests, and so they're written off as "disappeared" and Leliana and Cassandra have to look for a new hero somewhere else.
I could be wrong, of course, and that's alright too. The game could start with Corypheus sucking the souls out of the Warden and Hawke for breakfast and dropping their dead bodies to the ground like potato sacks. Cool beans, all headcanons retconned, no harm done. But as long as all we have to go by is "disappeared" and no solid resolution is ever given, I'll keep my endgame scenarios. They fit my characters' stories better than any conspiracy theory.
I've gone off-topic enough, though. Back to Grey Wardens in Ferelden, and such.
Head canon all you want, doesn't mean they'll never be seen again.
I thought it was confirmed depending on one's choices, Both the Warden AND the Champion would show up.. Of course, if you allow your warden to die, then well, there ya go.
That being said, What are the Wardens doing? Most likely trying to investigate some more Darkspawn BS. Maybe the Darkspawn fiure out a way, to control a Grey Warden using the taint in their blood.
Well i'm just hope to see an after credits scene with a glance of the warden or the OGB.
I thought it was confirmed depending on one's choices, Both the Warden AND the Champion would show up.. Of course, if you allow your warden to die, then well, there ya go.
That being said, What are the Wardens doing? Most likely trying to investigate some more Darkspawn BS. Maybe the Darkspawn fiure out a way, to control a Grey Warden using the taint in their blood.
It wasn't confimed.
I feel like importing your specific Warden or Hawke into DAI would require more than the Keep can do, since you'd have to import specific facial features from your DAO/DA2 PC or wind up being faced with a "Warden" who looks nothing like your Warden.
That, or they could just be wearing a helmet the whole time, I suppose. Who knows.
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"Disappeared" can mean anything. Until the game proves me wrong, I maintain that "the hero was never heard from again" is just one of the oldest, most common tropes of RPG campaigns ever, to get former heroes out of the picture so the players focus on the new one, and there's nothing particularly foreshadowing in Hawke and Warden fading into obscurity once their songs have been sung. The world has simply moved on, and it's Inquisitor time.
Like I said, unless DA:I explicitely tells me otherwise, I know where my heroes are. My Warden "disappeared" in as much as he is not where Leliana thought she might find him, and the Wardens won't tell her where he went because the Commander's affairs are none of her or the Chantry's business. My Hawke also "disappeared" in as much as Varric won't tell Cassandra where he went even under torture and threat of death, because he knows Hawke is 500% done with mage/templar drama and just wants some peace and quiet, and he won't be the one to give his friend away. It's a simple case of, they're gone, but no one's telling where. They still exist somewhere out there - their friends just refuse to let the Chantry turn them into pawns for its own interests, and so they're written off as "disappeared" and Leliana and Cassandra have to look for a new hero somewhere else.
I could be wrong, of course, and that's alright too. The game could start with Corypheus sucking the souls out of the Warden and Hawke for breakfast and dropping their dead bodies to the ground like potato sacks. Cool beans, all headcanons retconned, no harm done. But as long as all we have to go by is "disappeared" and no solid resolution is ever given, I'll keep my endgame scenarios. They fit my characters' stories better than any conspiracy theory.
I've gone off-topic enough, though. Back to Grey Wardens in Ferelden, and such.
He (or she) was kidnapped along with Hawke by the power behind the Forbidden Ones.
I feel like importing your specific Warden or Hawke into DAI would require more than the Keep can do, since you'd have to import specific facial features from your DAO/DA2 PC or wind up being faced with a "Warden" who looks nothing like your Warden.
That, or they could just be wearing a helmet the whole time, I suppose. Who knows.
I can already see the Warden is wearing a helmet the whole time. I think it's very likely since it'll solve the facial features in case it's too complex for the Keep to handle, and not to mention if any player install a mod that add anything custom. As for Hawke...maybe his/her face will be covered by a hood/helmet as well. That if our previous protagonist going to make an appearance at all.
Gaider never told if the previous heroes will evolve in DAI. If they are back they are only npc.
I hope we will have at least an answer on the diseappearance. In my concern, my Warden followed Morigan then I would like understand how he is back when King Alisatir told he is in Denerin when he spoke with Hawke. I hope really there is a great plot about the disappearance and we have to free them to have an assemblage of the three heroes and their team vs the big bad villains
Gaider never told if the previous heroes will evolve in DAI. If they are back they are only npc.
I hope we will have at least an answer on the diseappearance. In my concern, my Warden followed Morigan then I would like understand how he is back when King Alisatir told he is in Denerin when he spoke with Hawke. I hope really there is a great plot about the disappearance and we have to free them to have an assemblage of the three heroes and their team vs the big bad villains
But Mark Darrah did, he said both the Warden and Hawke have important roles in DAI. He said this a while back.
But Mark Darrah did, he said both the Warden and Hawke have important roles in DAI. He said this a while back.
I believe he said something along the lines of: "IF they return, it would be more than just a cameo." That's all.
I would think that if my Warden-Commander(The City Elf Hero of Ferelden) would have made Velanna the Warden-Constable.
... causing all the other wardens to go AWOL.
They're all at a pub. You can try to recruit them but it goes something like:
Inquisitor: "I need your help to stop the end of the world."
GW1: "Where is the bleedin' archdemon then?"
GW2: "How can the world be endin mate, there is no archdemon and we've seen nary a dark spawn about."
Inquisitor: "but there is a huge tear in the veil! The Fade is open."
GW1: "Oh you can sod right along off then, you can."
Inquisitor: "What?"
GW2: "Look we only solve a par-ticularly type of world ending calamity and if there ain't no Archdemon... if you can't even produce a few hundred dark spawn then ****** off."
lol 
But yeah, hopefully we'll see Velanna with the Dalish, Anders/Justice either with the mages or out seeking justice living as a pariah somewhere or with Hawke, and the others along with Alistair/Loghain, maybe Bethany/Carver, and some newbies as a group, depending on choices and survival. I'm one of those that really wants to see our customizable Wardens and Hawkes too, so fingers crossed we get them all. I could see all of them making important cameos at the least. Most might not show up, but it'd be cool if they did.
No idea what our Grey Wardens are up to, but I would hazard a guess that the Grey Warden Order is busy trying to find one of the two remaining Old Gods before the Darkspawn, if they find the Old Gods maybe they can prevent future Blights. Another possibility, especially if we did the Dark Ritual, is that Grey Warden Order is trying to find out how to make it so that no one has to die when they slay the Arch Demon. If neither of these two are correct, then they are probably busy hunting down and killing Darkspawn so that their numbers will be lower the next time a Blight occurs. (I hope that if we get to witness another Blight in a Dragon Age game that both Arch Demons are found at the same time and we have to deal with both of them at once.)
I believe he said something along the lines of: "IF they return, it would be more than just a cameo." That's all.
Naw, I read some where that they would have big roles. Can't remember where.
They most certainly are all indoctrinated by Corypheus, magister and imperator.
No idea what our Grey Wardens are up to, but I would hazard a guess that the Grey Warden Order is busy trying to find one of the two remaining Old Gods before the Darkspawn, if they find the Old Gods maybe they can prevent future Blights.
I wouldn't be surprised if killing the last two archdemons would actually have the opposite impact than what the Wardens would be wishing. When there is no archdemon, darkspawn spend their time searching for one. If the darkspawn can no longer hear an archdemon calling out to them, then there'd be nothing to direct their actions. They could spill out of the Deep Roads en mass, just as during a Blight... except this time, it would be an unending Blight.
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