Well cash-in from DA:I has to have it's solid chunk of time.
E3 seems to obvious, but unlikely to have to wait for.
I think we will get a teaser in Q1 of 2015.
Probably so. This makes me less optimistic about the game launching in 2015, but no matter. When's the next major event? E3 for sure we'll get something, but would GDC in early March be possible?
Probably so. This makes me less optimistic about the game launching in 2015, but no matter. When's the next major event? E3 for sure we'll get something, but would GDC in early March be possible?
I'm OK with waiting for Q1 2016 to get the game if that is what it takes.
Once they polish the game to be great from the start we'll be playing this through years to come + DLC folks.
Probably so. This makes me less optimistic about the game launching in 2015, but no matter. When's the next major event? E3 for sure we'll get something, but would GDC in early March be possible?
Once again I'm standing firm on early-to-mid-late 2016 as my guess. 
Once again I'm standing firm on early-to-mid-late 2016 as my guess.
Just realised... MENext will come out after SW: Force Awakens hits TPB... um, I mean cinemas...
Damn... still it's so much waiting...
I just want my damn MENext annoucement, so I can finally pre-order the overpriced uber nerdy Collector's Edition and be calm that I will get my game before all pieces are sold.
Once again I'm standing firm on early-to-mid-late 2016 as my guess.
Seems like it's going to be that way. I'm just surprised that a game like ME Next will have more development time than DAI, which supposedly had to deal with engine transitions and building new systems from scratch.
And judging by what the Dragon Age team accomplished with DAI in terms of scope, with extra dev time, ME Next looks like it'll have the potential to a really big game. Just hope they get the design choices/timeline/atmosphere right so that we have an authentic Mass Effect experience 
Once again I'm standing firm on early-to-mid-late 2016 as my guess.
That does seem like a distinct possibility.
I and Vertigo (Teddy) had a bit of a discussion, and we concluded that unless they make any reveal in early March (PAX, GDC), then a 2015 release is probably unrealistic.
If they go for a 2016 release, then I guess that the official reveal will probably be in next year's E3 (June).
That does seem like a distinct possibility.
I and Vertigo (Teddy) had a bit of a discussion, and we concluded that unless they make any reveal in early March (PAX, GDC), then a 2015 release is probably unrealistic.
If they go for a 2016 release, then I guess that the official reveal will probably be in next year's E3 (June).
I just hope the next-gen only rumor I've been seeing is false as I am years away from Xbox1. 
Hey, in the end we'll have had that much longer of a legacy to look back upon since you made it so early.
Hah, very true indeed!
Well cash-in from DA:I has to have it's solid chunk of time.
E3 seems to obvious, but unlikely to have to wait for.
I think we will get a teaser in Q1 of 2015.
Yeah. E3 is like, what, 7-8 months away? Unless Next ME game got a massive development time, we'll sure as hell get major new info way sooner.
I just hope the next-gen only rumor I've been seeing is false as I am years away from Xbox1.
I assume that the rumor is more of an "educated guess", and doesn't have any more basis to it. Personally, I can't form an opinion, because I have no idea how the dev process for ports between last-gen and next-gen works. If it makes financial sense, they'll probably port it.
That said, I assume that the last gen will be completely phased out, eventually.The next gen market will become progressively bigger and the last gen market progressively smaller.
If Next ME game isn't released somewhere in 2015, then I see no way to be released on old gen consoles.
If Next ME game isn't released somewhere in 2015, then I see no way to be released on old gen consoles.
Agreed.
If Next ME game isn't released somewhere in 2015, then I see no way to be released on old gen consoles.
They already confirmed that it will only be on PS4/XBone and PC.
That doesn't deny they won't port it on X360 and PS3, so it's still theoretically possible.
Also, do add source on that. I never seen it was confirmed to be on PC, PS4 and XBOne.
Yeah, there's no mention on the Known Features doc about any confirmed platform. If anyone has any sources for that, (and whether they'll be exclusively for current gen), that'd be helpful.
I think the basis of that PS4/X1-only thing is the Amazon listing for "Mass Effect" on PS4 and X1 that popped up several months ago. Perhaps there's more to it than that, but IMO, if that was legit by any definition, it was in reference to the looming announcement of a Trilogy next-gen release, as I'm fairly confident that thing is coming out first. And I'm fairly confident it's coming because I still don't believe someone like Aaryn Flynn would have taken to NeoGAF and asked what they'd like to see in a "theoretical" release except to generate buzz without actually confirming it.
Regardless, though, since NME is likely a 2016 release, I'm very doubtful there will be PS3/360 versions. Sorry, Stealth. That just seems like an excessively long time to still be making previous-gen ports even by this generation's rule-changing definition. :\ On the flip side, it'll mean going "all in" with the PC, PS4 and X1 versions, meaning not having to scale anything based upon what might not be possible with the PS3 and 360 hardware. Maybe there'll be a hot sale on an X1 (or PS4, or gaming PC) that'll pull you into a purchase just in the nick of time, Stealth.
That does seem like a distinct possibility.
I and Vertigo (Teddy) had a bit of a discussion, and we concluded that unless they make any reveal in early March (PAX, GDC), then a 2015 release is probably unrealistic.
If they go for a 2016 release, then I guess that the official reveal will probably be in next year's E3 (June).
Yep. PAX or GDC is possible. Quite possible. I'm still conservatively counting down to E3 just in case... regardless, E3 will likely make the biggest splash presentation-wise out of all three venues, of course, so it'll be something to behold no matter where NME is formally unveiled. And of course the rush of articles that'll follow will give us a nice taste of what to expect.
Seems like it's going to be that way. I'm just surprised that a game like ME Next will have more development time than DAI, which supposedly had to deal with engine transitions and building new systems from scratch.
And judging by what the Dragon Age team accomplished with DAI in terms of scope, with extra dev time, ME Next looks like it'll have the potential to a really big game. Just hope they get the design choices/timeline/atmosphere right so that we have an authentic Mass Effect experience
DAI's transitions were nothing to scoff at, of course. It had a lot to deal with, including how best to tackle the elephant in the room that was DA2's relatively negative legacy in the eyes of the gaming public. But I've always held that NME's transition has been equally daunting; whereas David Gaider and all his Edmonton allies have gradually been moving through broad, overarching narrative ideas they envisioned many years ago, NME has largely switched studio locations and shuffled some of the franchise's key positions in the wake of the end of the original vision for Mass Effect's ultimate destination.
ME3 capped off everything that Casey Hudson, Drew Karpyshyn, and, yes, plenty of the folks still around to work on this next project, came together to create all the way back in 2004-2005. Doubtless there were all manner of things which did not develop/conclude as intended, since it was, like Gaider's vision, broad strokes the whole way through, but the point is, the painting was completed. It was "back to the drawing board" for an appreciable amount of time, what with Montreal now helming, what with Chris Schlerf now lead-writing, what with the first non-Shepard experience, and then what with the new engine, entirely new ME-centric assets to build, so forth. It might not sound like terribly much, but then, this is why the first Mass Effect had the longest development time in the trilogy. It's not that it had so much more content than its sequels (although "content" can be a very subjective concept, heh) so much as just how much "boldly going" was involved.
Plus, yeah, it's gonna be a big game in terms of play space, and it's going to follow Inquisition's lead by ensuring that its regions (worlds!) are colorful and diverse in addition to vast. And above all else, as BioWare stated in its press release on key personnel for the project, this is the first time in the series since the original game that it's focused on innovating a great deal. So that means new gameplay systems the likes of which we've yet to see in a sequel. And that means time spent creating them.
Just realised... MENext will come out after SW: Force Awakens hits TPB... um, I mean cinemas...
Damn... still it's so much waiting...
I just want my damn MENext annoucement, so I can finally pre-order the overpriced uber nerdy Collector's Edition and be calm that I will get my game before all pieces are sold.
The Force Awakens is going to do good things for space opera, so long as it is well-received of course. It's going to help Star Trek, Stargate, Mass Effect... space is big when Star Wars is big, and there's going to be a new generation of miniature Jedi eager to see what this space thing is about, and I think some of them are going to be captivated by the adventures of not-Shepard as a result. 
I think the basis of that PS4/X1-only thing is the Amazon listing for "Mass Effect" on PS4 and X1 that popped up several months ago.
Nope, they mentioned it on N7-Day.
The sales figures on last-gen consoles are shrinking a lot faster than expected. Most 2015 games are already current-gen/PC only.
The Force Awakens is going to do good things for space opera, so long as it is well-received of course. It's going to help Star Trek, Stargate, Mass Effect... space is big when Star Wars is big, and there's going to be a new generation of miniature Jedi eager to see what this space thing is about, and I think some of them are going to be captivated by the adventures of not-Shepard as a result.
Ehhh, I'm not so sure. They're already going over and over and over that 90 second trailer that was released and they're already tearing it to shreds. See the light saber saga. I think, read as my wild hair, that most of this generation saw the first three (Episodes 1-3) and went, "Ehhhh.... BFD. This is what you got so excited about?" Hopefully JJ Abrams proves them wrong and makes like a billion dollars on the next movie. And that's before it even leaves theaters.
Nope, they mentioned it on N7-Day.
The sales figures on last-gen consoles are shrinking a lot faster than expected. Most 2015 games are already current-gen/PC only.
Ahh, OK. Something was tearing at me as I typed that. Something was clawing away, insisting there had been an announcement somewhere.
I hadn't realized all the tearing and clawing was none other than an InterrogationBear, however!
New update.
Mainly clarifications from the N7 Stream and new Dev Promises section is added.
Alright, decided to saddle up and look at the stream a lot more closely, due to the comments of a certain helpful Bear.
Due to the specific wording ("focus on current gen"), I don't think that having no port for last-gen is absolutely confirmed, though I'm personally leaning towards that conclusion as well. For now, I'm adding it as a Rumor, and adding PC and "current gen platforms" as confirmed.
Anyway, I found some small gems here and there as well.
So yeah, lot's of new, bolded stuff, do take a look.
EDIT:
For those who are not familiar with the system we established with the ME3 Known Features thread, "Dev Promises" are vague features mentioned by the devs, but which are not definitely known to be in-game.
Obviously, any of the features mentioned in the doc may change during development, but dev promises are the ones most susceptible to change. They are one step below the Known Features, and one step above the Rumors.
Why are some people so worried about whether ME4 is going to be on 7th gen or not? The 7th Gen had it's 8-9 year run and it's time for the 8th gen to be used to its full potential. It used to be (and with Nintendo, still is) that when a new console was released, all devs switched to it within a year. Why don't people think of it like: 'Hey! finally a great game to make me want a PS4/Xbox One!' as opposed to: 'the devs are forcing me to buy a new console'. Also, when devs abandon the 7th gen and put their full might behind pushing the 8th gen to the limit, 8th gen games should start looking and playing a lot better and after waiting so long for ME4, I want it to be as good as it can be.
Why are some people so worried about whether ME4 is going to be on 7th gen or not? The 7th Gen had it's 8-9 year run and it's time for the 8th gen to be used to its full potential. It used to be (and with Nintendo, still is) that when a new console was released, all devs switched to it within a year. Why don't people think of it like: 'Hey! finally a great game to make me want a PS4/Xbox One!' as opposed to: 'the devs are forcing me to buy a new console'. Also, when devs abandon the 7th gen and put their full might behind pushing the 8th gen to the limit, 8th gen games should start looking and playing a lot better and after waiting so long for ME4, I want it to be as good as it can be.
A lot of people can't afford to buy a new console or upgrade their PC, due to their limited income. I think that that is at least one of the major reasons for that sentiment.
That said, I do recall some people being angered when Square Enix announced that Kingdom Hearts 3 won't be released on the PS2. Ofcourse, that was years ago, and it looks like KH3 will skip the PS3 altogether.
If the game is a 2016 release, more people will have moved on to the current generation by then.
A lot of people can't afford to buy a new console or upgrade their PC, due to their limited income. I think that that is at least one of the major reasons for that sentiment.
That said, I do recall some people being angered when Square Enix announced that Kingdom Hearts 3 won't be released on the PS2. Ofcourse, that was years ago, and it looks like KH3 will skip the PS3 altogether.
If the game is a 2016 release, more people will have moved on to the current generation by then.
Yeah, I understand that buying a good gaming PC and keeping it upgrades is very expensive (which is why I don't do it) but roughly £350/$400 for a console that's going to last at least 7 years without needing to be upgraded in any way sound like a good deal to me. I agree that a 2 year 'transition period' is a good idea, but by late 2015/early 2016, I'm sure 90% of devs will have moved fully to the 8th gen and the PS4/Xbox One will have gotten cheaper by then.
It's kind of a chicken and eggs situation. Devs don't want to 'abandon' the 100M or so people who only own PS3s/Xbox 360s, but at the same time, they have to understand that few people are going to switch to the 8th gen while they're still making games for the 7th gen.
Old generation of consoles has much lower hardware limits than the next gen so developing the game on both platforms is harder. That said, gaming PCs destroy both in sheer power. I guess it depends on how much new shiny stuff they put in the game. 2 years later Xbox One and PS4 will likely be widespread enough to make them the dominant platforms in gaming. It's not the case now, but it'll change. I'll need to upgrade my PC regardless, so I'm a bit indifferent on that issue.
Old generation of consoles has much lower hardware limits than the next gen so developing the game on both platforms is harder. That said, gaming PCs destroy both in sheer power. I guess it depends on how much new shiny stuff they put in the game. 2 years later Xbox One and PS4 will likely be widespread enough to make them the dominant platforms in gaming. It's not the case now, but it'll change. I'll need to upgrade my PC regardless, so I'm a bit indifferent on that issue.
The one thing that annoys me about the release date being so far is that by then my PC will probably be out of date. I have one from 2009 at the moment, planning to build a new one during the holidays so I could play DAI. But if ME Next only releases in 2016, well that's a lot of time for a PC (or tech in general) to age. And upgrading with different socket types and requirements is always a pain 
I want ME Next maxed out, with ALL the anti-aliasing 
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